East Coast Racing - Perth Turf Talk https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/categories/other-racing/p13/feed.rss Tue, 14 Jul 2026 05:44:36 +0000 East Coast Racing - Perth Turf Talk en-CA Chris Munce Racing into voluntary administration https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25848/chris-munce-racing-into-voluntary-administration Sat, 25 Apr 2020 02:19:26 +0000 DamienWyer 25848@/discussion/discussions ]]> Racing.com /Sportsbet bulldust https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25845/racing-com-sportsbet-bulldust Fri, 24 Apr 2020 05:42:18 +0000 bookielover 25845@/discussion/discussions
Representing Sportsbet, today's sponsor and the Corp supplying the prices and fluctuations, is Nathan Brown an ex Richmond footballer with no idea about betting. He was spruiking number 12 That's a Blast being a huge go from 19.00 into 3.80. We just had a bet of 12,500 on it, he said. Of course they did. It's a whose who of punters backing this, he cr@pped on.

What he didn't say, either deliberately, or because he just happens to have no effing idea, was that two horses, Kislian and Moscon were scratched this morning, and were heavily favoured in the early betting markets, making up 50% of the market. Hence the 19.00 into around 4.50 price, after the scratchings were declared this morning. From there, the horse was in fact backed further, however the so called plonk didn't take place when the horse was, in Sportsbet's market, at 19.00 before this mornings scratchings.

What was even worse, is that two so called smart blokes in the studios at Racing.Com, Brent Zaraffa and Nick Ashman said nothing to correct him.

That was until literally 10 minutes after the race had been run, and Nick was lauding Zerrafa's selection of the winner as being his best bet of the day, and how it was $19.00 into $3.80, when Zaraffa finally said, big deductions though mate after those scratchings. 

It's not just R.Com where this goes on. Glenn Munsie does it all the time on behalf of the Tote. As do the presenters on Sky.

I remember the good old days at the track where urgers would grab hold of unsuspecting punters and tip them. They were actually called touts. if the horse won, the tout would be back for a sling. If it got beaten, the tout disappeared into the ether until he could find another mug.

Look, if people watching, tumble into this deceitful cr@p, then in some ways, they deserve to lose, when, on most occasions, the horses being spruiked for the benefit of the Corps or the Tote, lose.

I'm old fashioned when it comes to rorting punters. What may have been accepted in the so called good old days, isn't today, especially from large betting Corporations and the stations representing racing.


Mind you, what else would you expect from the Corps and the TAB where punters decide to bet fixed odds, who cut punters back or ban them completely.

They do this while letting the mugs on, and hypocritically urging those very same mugs that  they encourage and allow to bet beyond their means, to "gamble responsibly".
:-& ]]> Ciaron Maher https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25839/ciaron-maher Mon, 20 Apr 2020 06:48:15 +0000 TheDiva 25839@/discussion/discussions
]]> Moonee Valley tonight https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25756/moonee-valley-tonight Fri, 20 Mar 2020 08:26:23 +0000 TheDiva 25756@/discussion/discussions
]]> Weiry's daughter wants to train. https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25826/weiry-s-daughter-wants-to-train Wed, 15 Apr 2020 05:56:44 +0000 TheDiva 25826@/discussion/discussions
]]> The Championships Day 2, Royal Randwick 11/4/2020. https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25809/the-championships-day-2-royal-randwick-11-4-2020 Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:47:55 +0000 Thunderstruck 25809@/discussion/discussions
R3 Asharani, she will charge home late along with a few others it's usually a fantastic contest the provincial feature.

R5 Dawn Passage is a big chance of upsetting the fav, I think with better luck he definitely has California Zimbol covered..the wide draw this time suits his racing style better.

R7 Collette is easy in betting but was probably a bit short at $3, she looks a huge chance and will relish 2400 based on her storming finish last week..am very wary of Probabeel more so than Shout The Bar.

R8 I'll be backing Te Akau Shark e.w but place heavy..Danon Premium is a huge danger and ditto Addeybb but i wouldnt be confident which one to save on so will only back TAS and bet for a profit if he at least places.
I for one would love to see Melody Belle upset them all but the field is that strong she is maybe only a top 4 hope.Gets 2000m no problem and gets cover you would think from 4.
It's a very hard race Verry Eleegant too is flying i just have a small query back to 2000 obviously she was AWESOME at 2400 last start.
A brilliant race awaits!

]]> Victorian Racing Suspended https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25766/victorian-racing-suspended Wed, 25 Mar 2020 05:09:49 +0000 TheDiva 25766@/discussion/discussions https://www.racing.com/news/2020-03-25/news-rv-suspends-victorian-racing]]> The Championships Day 1, Royal Randwick 4/4/2020. https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25788/the-championships-day-1-royal-randwick-4-4-2020 Thu, 02 Apr 2020 11:56:49 +0000 Thunderstruck 25788@/discussion/discussions
An initial observation from me re the feature race the Doncaster is this...how t.f is Super Seth only 8.50??
It staggers me maybe that's a testament to an even field? Has 55kg just 2 below the top of the scale and for mine is a decent risk to run a strong 1600 at Randwick..I'll EAT IT if it wins or even places :))
Melody Belle will run a huge race 57kg is an ask but she has earnt it, the spring form on wet tracks at 1600 and then 2000 suggest to me she can cope with it..am wary of some squib with 50.5 nutting her late but SS won't beat her home imo.]]> Contagion https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25748/contagion Wed, 18 Mar 2020 03:49:06 +0000 therealkramer 25748@/discussion/discussions
Doomben r8 # 2 Great Keppell
]]> Golden Slipper 21/3 https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25745/golden-slipper-21-3 Tue, 17 Mar 2020 07:18:55 +0000 desertharry 25745@/discussion/discussions Away  Game  - honest , classy  Snitzel  filly  ideally  drawn  in  3 .
Massive  run  in  Blue  Diamond  for  4 th  when 3 & 4  wide  entire  trip .
Receives  2 Kg  from  Farnan , Hanseatic, Tagaloa  and  looks  to  have  measure  of  other  2 y o  fillies .
Fillies  have  good  record  in  race
Has  had  long  campaign  &  only  needs  to  maintain  form  to  be   ultra   competitive .
Do  Not  Dismiss 
]]> David Gately https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25760/david-gately Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:11:25 +0000 JimmyPop 25760@/discussion/discussions He is a complete pain in the ****.]]> Photo Race 2 Newcastle today https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25754/photo-race-2-newcastle-today Thu, 19 Mar 2020 11:58:55 +0000 detonator 25754@/discussion/discussions Camera angle must be more skewiff than Kalgoorlie !!!  :-B ]]> Golden Slipper https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25739/golden-slipper Sun, 15 Mar 2020 13:38:52 +0000 Thunderstruck 25739@/discussion/discussions
Might be a speculator but i like one at 15/1 Prague.
His overall time was well off the males Randwick Slipper prelude the previous week(allegedly in similar conditions)but he has the runs on the board at the slipper track which can be key, did not have an overly tough run Saturday as they went slow early and he finished off well doing his best work late.
Marquand who i like as a steerer is on again and if the horse can do the 7 day back-up I see him relishing the conditions again and being right in the finish..]]> All Star Mile https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25725/all-star-mile Tue, 10 Mar 2020 01:21:39 +0000 TheDiva 25725@/discussion/discussions
]]> Why would James McDonald take a look behind him with 50m to go. https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25583/why-would-james-mcdonald-take-a-look-behind-him-with-50m-to-go Wed, 08 Jan 2020 04:37:41 +0000 detonator 25583@/discussion/discussions The close up slow mo on the N.S.W website shortly after crossing the line looks even worse.
Shades of Douggie Whyte in the Kingston Town. WTF. :-B ]]> Will Australian Stewards Stand Down All Godolphin Runners? https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25712/will-australian-stewards-stand-down-all-godolphin-runners Fri, 06 Mar 2020 02:47:18 +0000 2lifetimewinners 25712@/discussion/discussions Not saying yes or no, just with other situations on Character Grounds people have been stood down. 

]]> Cheltenham Festival UK https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25723/cheltenham-festival-uk Mon, 09 Mar 2020 14:27:01 +0000 SLIPPERGOLDEN 25723@/discussion/discussions
R2 Al Dancer each way all day
R3 Activial. Ignore previous couple set for this
R4 Sharjah with an interest on Not So Sleepy at long odds
R6 Champagne Court and saver on Lord Schnitzel at odds
R7 Smoking Gun at juicy odds is best each way bet for the night
]]> USA TRAINER JASON SERVIS THE MOST CROOKED TRAINER EVER https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25727/usa-trainer-jason-servis-the-most-crooked-trainer-ever Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:24:26 +0000 SLIPPERGOLDEN 25727@/discussion/discussions Just one of a multitude of reports on this prolific cheat and many others implicated. He supposedly juiced every horse he ever started and won the richest races including the recent Saudi Cup

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maximum-security-trainer-jason-servis-among-27-charged-in-horse-drugging-scheme/ ]]> Saudi Arabia Meeting https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25698/saudi-arabia-meeting Sat, 29 Feb 2020 12:25:35 +0000 PC 25698@/discussion/discussions
Good preview by Tim Carroll in regards to the big race meeting in Saudi Arabia tonight and in the early hours of the morning in Australia. From an Australian racing point of view international horses Magic Wand and Benbatl will be running in the main race on the card the 20 million dollar Saudi Cup (1800m) which is the richest race in the world. Also 2018 Melbourne Cup winner Cross Counter, 2018-2019 Melbourne Cup placegetter Prince Of Arran, 2019 Hotham Handicap winner Downdraft and 2019 Queen Elizabeth Stakes True Self will be running in the Longines Turf Handicap at 3000m and this race is worth 2.5 million dollars.]]> Saudi Arabia Meeting https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25697/saudi-arabia-meeting Sat, 29 Feb 2020 12:24:08 +0000 PC 25697@/discussion/discussions
https://www.attheraces.com/saudi-cup/tim-carroll's-saudi-cup-preview]]> Vaal 27/2/20 https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25693/vaal-27-2-20 Fri, 28 Feb 2020 08:29:59 +0000 Dillinger 25693@/discussion/discussions The closing prices & the Pay Out divvies appear VERY different ..
Does anyone know why ??
Cheers
]]> Biased tracks https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25681/biased-tracks Sat, 22 Feb 2020 22:52:27 +0000 detonator 25681@/discussion/discussions Yesterday both Melb and Sydney were front runners paradises and threw up a lot of rough results.
I get the "adapt" your betting to suit argument but it leaves everyone flat when the track favours the leaders.
Commentators skirted around bagging the track bias.
The blue diamond winner will be 20 to 1 next start. So will Streets of Avalon.
If you get on the day before on a back marker you have done your dough before they leave the mounting yard.
How many people are too stubborn to change their selection just in case the horse flukes an inside run and wins. (Like me) :( ]]> Longest Price Winners https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25608/longest-price-winners Thu, 16 Jan 2020 01:51:24 +0000 luap 25608@/discussion/discussions
Amazingly, they were ridden by the same jockey, Jamie De Belin, who has kicked on since his retirement.



]]> UK Overnight https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25631/uk-overnight Tue, 28 Jan 2020 13:39:18 +0000 SLIPPERGOLDEN 25631@/discussion/discussions Early morning at Southwell but very keen on these two....   

R3 Aquarius. Apprentice allowance big help. Was 16s and currently 7s
R6 William Ashford. Over from Ireland where it has run some good races in big fields. Currently 16s. Each Way play at least]]> So many OS meetings? https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25554/so-many-os-meetings Sun, 29 Dec 2019 04:40:13 +0000 H-BOMBER 25554@/discussion/discussions
Then I see there is 16 overseas meetings!? 

So then I look at the trots. There are 3 Aussie meetings and 7 overseas trots meetings. 

With the dogs there are 8 Australian and 5 international.


What interest is there in backwater international meetings? It must be somewhat profitable or supported if they are being offered. 
:-? ]]> Knows Beers https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25649/knows-beers Wed, 05 Feb 2020 07:32:29 +0000 TheDiva 25649@/discussion/discussions
]]> shocker https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25603/shocker Wed, 15 Jan 2020 03:49:54 +0000 TheDiva 25603@/discussion/discussions
]]> The Great Bert Bryant https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25594/the-great-bert-bryant Fri, 10 Jan 2020 01:42:38 +0000 luap 25594@/discussion/discussions





Bert Bryant calling the latter stages of the 1970 2 horse Queen Elizabeth Stakes 2500 metres.

Big Philou  -  Roy Higgins

Rain Lover  -  Pat Hyland
]]> DJ commentates race https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25609/dj-commentates-race Thu, 16 Jan 2020 03:35:30 +0000 TheDiva 25609@/discussion/discussions
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]]> Lionel Lewis https://www.perthturftalk.com.au/discussion/discussion/25607/lionel-lewis Wed, 15 Jan 2020 11:30:13 +0000 luap 25607@/discussion/discussions
I remember one Saturday the bloke in the studio was late in crossing to the track for a race and Lionel gave him a full on bollocking on air.

Lionel once mentioned on radio that he recently fallen into the Swan River and was lucky enough to be dragged out by the balls. He then thanked Mr and Mrs Ball. 
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