Harness & Greyhounds - Perth Turf Talk

NZ Cup Tuesday 14/11

JayJay — Thu, 09 Nov 2017 00:44:27 +0000

Stellar 14 horse field for the 3200m stand, 5 All Star entrants*, Lazarus the obvious favourite, others bound for Perth? ....doubt we will see Have Faith In Me but .....In Barrier order:
1 No Doctor Needed
2 Seel The Deal
3 Piccadilly Princess*
4 Buster Brady
5 Imola
6 Lazarus*
7. Jacks Legend
8 Titan Banner
9 Maxim
10 Tiger Tara
11 Dream About Me*
12 Heaven Rocks* (Unruly)
13 Robbie Burns (Unruly)
14 Have Faith In Me* (Unruly)

Result will doubtless influence who fronts up in Perth.

Pinjarra- Mon 13/11

VillageKid — Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:36:23 +0000

I hope you were on that favourite of yours the bonny little mare Bonsu @Ridersonthestorm33?

Destreos

The_Bull — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:11:59 +0000

Has his 400th start tonight. Has won 5 of his last 10 starts. What an amazing animal :x

Kindly Kellerberrin Sunday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sat, 11 Nov 2017 15:54:14 +0000

Just the one play..race 6. First four bet..#6. Tas Man Bromac first. Then for second, third and fourth the three 20/1 chances 1. Prince Of Whitby 2. Hilo Angus 4.Precious Pup then joining those three for third and fourth both #5. She Could Be Good and 7. Rich Yankee. 1 x 3 x 4 x 3....$27 = 75%.

Also another ticket 6 first, 7 second 1,2,4 for third..and 1,2,4,5 for fourth..1 x 1 x 3 x 3....$9 = 100%.

NEW PTT DOG

thefalcon — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 11:29:45 +0000

the falcon has been conned into part ownership of a dish licker..long drunken story...

had its first start at Cannington last wed. started $1.20 fav. and the greatest certainty beaten you have ever seen.

qualified for a race this wed. worth 7 grand..drew box 3.

his name? Quick Jagger....trainer? yep, u guessed Chris Halse.

Headquarters Friday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Thu, 09 Nov 2017 15:33:55 +0000

Good meeting at the Ribbon Of Light.

Race 2. Whilst Better Boa will be long odds on and the one to beat from gate 2, liked the run of Mary Catherine when a first up fourth behind classy deadheaters Walkinshaw & Tisadream with last Monday Pinjarra winner Herrick Roosevelt just a head away third. Had the run of the race, but thought she would still get burnt right off , but held her ground well to the line finishing right on their rump steaks.

Will be difficult from gate 6 but on that effort eachway for me, looks the only danger to Better Boa. Working around those two horses in trifectas and first fours. If not tomorrow night for Mary Catherine...a win is nigh.

YARRA VALLEY PACING CUP

Markovina — Thu, 09 Nov 2017 03:32:51 +0000

Very good race today Lenny The Shark My Field Marshall etc

But the amazing thing is - with 2 hours to go before the race - are the Tote Pools

5.9k in the win and a staggering 28.6k in the place - and the above 2 horses are showing $1 the place

So the 3rd place getter is going to pay massive overs - i thought Tee Ce Be McCray had a knockout chance of winning - very smart horse

You dont have to be too " Clever " to work out why that place money has been put on in my opinion

GP 7/11

JayJay — Tue, 07 Nov 2017 14:16:50 +0000

Ace Bromac looks a really nice 4 year old and possibly Golden Nugget bound.

However Run Run Jimmy Dunn appeared to pull up very ginger after his easy win today ....hope it is nothing but stood down pending a vet clearance....he covered them so easily today.

Pinjarra Monday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:36:54 +0000

Very good meeting and a couple of great races later in the day...

Race 6: Whilst favoured runners off ten metres Ohaka Punter, The Bucket List, I'm Full Of Excuses, and Simply Susational will all be highly fancied and hard to beat from the standing start..their is good depth in the race and think there are three others that will give some cheek..

#1. Costa Del Magnifico - if Shannon Suvaljko gets this fella away smoothly will be right in the finish.

Also like at double figures the underrated #4. Tommybegood and won't be surprised to see #7. Ideal Alice run well. Kim Prentice to drive..could be the knockout.

Tough old race...Ohaka Punter at his best would win easily..but just not sure with him yet. Seven winning hopes...none would surprise. Even give 50/1 bolters a silly chance for third or fourth - Smoldering Ashes and Dredlock Rockstar both off the front line.

Kalgoorlie 3/11

JayJay — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 10:47:24 +0000

What are the chances that Aldo can train the card tonight? Already got the first two in.....probably put the mozz on but he is a live chance to wipe the floor.

GP- Fri 3/11

VillageKid — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 23:38:13 +0000

Race 1- El Machine

Race 2- El Hombre

Race 3- Abraxas Blues

Race 4- Heez On Fire

Race 5- AddFuelToFire

Race 6- Natural Disaster

Race 7- Chicago Bull

Race 8- Eden Franco

Race 9- Gangbuster

Race 10- Prince Of Whitby

Northam Tonight ; Robert The Bruce V Rock Diamonds.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 22:32:25 +0000

Race 5. A great clash tonight beckons between Robert The Bruce and classy horse Rock Diamonds fresh and returning from a very good Victorian campaign. Drawn out in six and seven respectively the start will be crucial...Robert The Bruce and Nathan Turvey drawn underneath Rock Diamonds need to make every post a winner and hold out Ryan Warwick in the run to the first turn.

Rock Diamonds firing out to the front can't be run down and Robert The Bruce needs to begin with alacrity and if he does lead its game on.

Just the one play tonight ; A four leg tote all up place bet on Turvey and Shannon Suvaljko drives.

Race 2. #1. Armbro Bliss - Turvey.
Race 5. #6. Robert The Bruce - Turvey.
Race 6. #9. Neighlor - Suvaljko
Race 8. #9. The Beachcomber - Suvaljko

WAYVILLE

bookielover — Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:14:24 +0000

I note that South Australian harness, have received permission to run a night meeting on Friday 27th. October at the old Wayville showgrounds.

It will coincide with the William Reid Stakes meeting at Moonee Valley and they expect a crowd of at least 10,000. Six bookies including Adelaide's biggest Curley Seal will field on the trots and Moonee Valley.

The track has a circumference of 512 metres. That's not a misprint. They actually ran 6 inter dominions there and the last meeting there was in 1973.

I was there with the missus a few weeks ago, coz that's where they hold the Royal Adelaide show. Have to say that they have some very nice facilities which were obviously built after the track closed down. Fully enclosed grand stands etc. but, the track itself was a cow paddock, and they will have to do a bit of work to get it up to scratch.

When you look at the track, and its circumference, you have to wonder how any horse other than the leader won a race. It's an absolute saucer and I reckon 5 across the front would be a tight squeeze. And the straight is barely that.

For those who don't know where it is, you can walk to the track from the city centre of Adelaide. Lots of public transport which stops outside the track, and a huge park where you can park your car.

It's a one off meeting at this point in time, but considering that Globe Derby is a desert wasteland and that's when they actually have a meeting on, they may decide to run a few more special meetings there if this ones a success. I know that I'd go if I was there, but I'll be in Sydney at the time.

I'll say one thing, anyone who can remember how races were run there and if leaders just won or you could come from behind, (calling Jay Jay), will have an edge on those just betting and hoping.

Stewards Report Race 1. Kalgoorlie 27/10/2017.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 04:43:15 +0000

Stewards Report ; At the conclusion of this event all clear was given on the judges numbers of 1,2,3, and 8. Subsequently ( after the all clear ) the judge notified stewards that an error had been made and acting under rule 49(5) the judge corrected the error and amended the placings to 1,2,3 and 7.

In accordance with TAB policies dividends were paid on initial numbers ( 1,2,3,8 - in other words if you had first the four with correct numbers 1,2,3,7 - shafted. )

Official records will reflect the correct finishing order.

On the 29th August a forum member stated about another numbers mistake at Pinjarra - I think it's approaching 15-20 times this has happened in WA harness racing in the past two years.

That figure seems incredibly high even half is too much...but once again, this time at Kalgoorlie another error. What else is on a judges job description apart from getting the numbers correct ? One would think it would be a high priority.

Who Am I? - Fly Under The Radar Series #10

JayJay — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 06:06:47 +0000

Sometimes, all the planets align in the tricky business of breeding and racing horses. Right place, right time, royally bred etc...everyone is familiar with the cliches. Other times, with impeccable breeding, they can't run out of sight or they have a brother who is a super star and yours can barely pace a mile in 2.20. Sometimes, you jag a ripper only for there to be a down turn and stakes drop dramatically and you earn bugger all. Back in the 90's, Sire Stakes racing was the go with races being run for ridiculous amounts of money all across Australia and on occasions, the fields were pretty poor and if you snagged a decent 2 year old, you could move into Jutland Parade. #10 in this series just about ticks all those boxes, one of the most enigmatic horses I have researched. Did he fly under the radar? Well mostly, a definite Yes....but he dropped some huge bombs when he did. Was he royally bred?.....well on the bloodline side, like few others but on performance, his pedigree line contains an amazingly sparse number of winners, especially considering the performance of his mum, a royally bred and well performed mare who, apart from him and his full brother, threw precious little....as did her ancestors....rich, rich blood, very few winners going back 4 to 5 generations.
Firstly his breeding. His sire was a Most Happy Fella superstar, both on the track and in the breeding barn, producing 613 Australian winners of over 19 million in stakes...astonishing numbers for the late 80's, early 90's when he was standing. His dam was a classic and group winning mare in WA, a winner of Triple Crown mares races, placed in all the major mares classics and a group 2 Cup winner. And boy, was she royally bred.....Lordship (and thus Johnny Globe), Fallacy (and thus Light Brigade), U Scott, Flying Song, even going back to Rey De Oro, this was a serious bloodline .....but apart from his dam, there is a hardly a decent horse amongst them from an awful lot of attempts. The NZ breeders were, thank goodness, sticklers for staying the breeding course, impatient they were not, and eventually, success came.
I started racing as a 2 year old on the provincial circuit, a first up 5th was okay but then, a picket fence came up quick smart with 5 successive wins including a 100k Sires Stakes race in which I knocked off a future Pacing Cup winner and a Graham Tindale trained 3rd place getter who would later qualify for an Interdominion Final over east. Deposit paid in Jutland Parade if the owner was so inclined (which I hasten to add, he wasn't....a more down to earth bloke you would never meet).
But the fairy tale was just beginning.....taken over East for the aforementioned ridiculous Sires Stakes racing purses on offer, Gold arrived in spades when a small fortune in prize money (over a quarter of a million) was won for knocking over some reasonably decent competition but with respect, very few horses that anyone could readily recall today. Bugger the deposit in Dalkeith, just buy outright!!!
Returning home, I had a modest 3 year old career, beating the future Pacing Cup winner in a Triple Crown race and winning another 3 year old metro race, which threw up the very infrequent occurrence of Phil Coulson driving an FRK trained horse, one of only 2 occasions that I have ever come across.
With injury concerns ever present, I won 3 metro races as 4 year old off a fairly limited campaign, had 12 months off returning as a 5 year old for 1 metro and two minor provincial wins. As a 6 year old, my final campaign of racing, I sparked into life winning 3 fast class metro races, beating a Golden Nugget winner in one, and a Pacing Cup runner up in another, until my career finally petered out and off to stud I went where I experienced only minor success.
22 wins and 15 places from about 70 starts, no ridiculous life time mile rate record.....but ....with well over $400k on the payroll, I was definitely right time, right place....and an absolute joy for my owner....and a very good looker to boot. My full brother was about the only other really decent horse in the family pedigree, so either someone really knew what they were doing or we were both just lucky dips.

Tony Sangalli

JayJay — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 00:21:31 +0000

Former highly prominent trainer/driver and star Swan Districts footballer Tony Sangalli has joined the past legends big round table upstairs. Renowned as a trainer for fellow Swan Alf Charleson, names that spring to mind are his first really good horse Majestic Scott, Boona Boy,the very well performed Napoleon, a brilliant horse in Prince Shannon, both Rio Command and Coruba Command, Dee Emm, Jack Ease and Extra Sly amongst others.
After hearing from Alan Parker this morning....whenever you talk to Alan, you find out stuff that you have long forgotten...he pointed out that Tony was a much sought after free lance driver ....driving quality winners for Fred Hough (Pyramus), Bob Pollock (Tony Hall and Bank Street), Bernie Cushing (Forbes Adios), Noel Eddy (Smackerola) as well as numerous winners for his brother Bob. Tony drove a lot of winners at the old York Track including a York Cup and got horses around the small circuit better than most. From Alans records, his last winner was Able Star on June 4, 1979 at Gloucester Park. From memory, he retired after battling a serious back condition.

Pinjarra Monday 30th October

Chariotsonfire — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 04:05:21 +0000

Will the run of short priced favorites over the weekend continue at Pinjarra today.

Interest surrounding three horses first up from the in form Olivieri stable in Adda Courage, Madame Meilland and Space Junk as well as another New Zealander trained by Justin Prentice Rocknroll Lincoln.

Derby winner Handsandwheels also resuming and all look very hard to beat.

Nifty Narrogin Saturday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:08:50 +0000

Race 7. # 2. Imalittlehorse - Confucius says - the smaller the creature the bolder its spirit. Perfectly drawn and a driver who knows how to lead from the front...will lead , will win!

Also going to work around trifectas/first four betting with Imalittlehorse, plus # 7. Sanford Tilly ( the knockout chance ) and odds on fave # 9. Don't Look Black.

GP Fri-27/10

VillageKid — Thu, 26 Oct 2017 23:26:48 +0000

Race 1- Our Zak Whitby

Race 2- El Hombre

Race 3- Dodolicious

Race 4- Itz Bettor To Win

Race 5- Thereugo

Race 6- Simply Susational

Race 7- Bettor Boa

Race 8- Lord Liam

Race 9- Im Rockaria

Race 10- Aurelius

Who Am I? - Fly Under The Radar Series #9

JayJay — Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:17:42 +0000

Ok, ok, ....dirty night, wind howling, buckets of rain...spring in Manji, sheesh!!! And smiling after reading Ken Casselas's form comment on Neighlor for next Tuesday at GP...."had supporters lining up early outside the local bakery after winning by 9.7m" etc....seems the great man reads PTT....hope he hasn't put the mozz on us lol.

Not many Queensland bred horses make the headlines in WA but this little bloke with 22 wins in the 1990's and numerous big time placings gets him a guernsey. Even more-so when you battle to find anything to get excited about in his pedigree...and I get easily excited about almost any sign of success in a pedigree. Although his sire was a son of Albatross, he was hardly a household name and the dam side is very light on for winners, even minor winners. And if qualifying for the Flying Under The Radar means getting beaten up by really top horses, then this little horse qualifies. I actually came across him during his educational days and never thought he would be mixing it in top company but good manners and quality handling from one of the most astute judges and educators I ever came across count for an awful lot.
Stepping out as a 2 year old, he chased home one of the really dominant Whitby horses at Northam before winning at his 2nd start at GP. At his 3rd and final 2 year old start in the $100k Sires race, he met severe interference and again fell victim to the Whitby success train. Put away to grow, which he didn't, he returned as a 3 year old and put together a run of 5 wins from 6 starts including 2 city races at GP. Heading towards the WA Derby through the preludes, he was 3rd in the Derby Final to another of the Whitby brigade. Racing on to the end of his 3 year old season, he raced another 12 times for 5 wins and 3 seconds before heading off for a spell. Regarded as one of the better 3 year olds of his class.
Returning as a 4 year old the next March, his next 9 starts produced 5 wins, 4 in the city along with a win in a strong Wagin Cup, and 3 seconds with just 1 unplaced run, before being put away for the Summer Carnival. He was becoming a very serious little race horse.
A first up 3rd in the 4 and 5 Year Old Championship and a 2nd at headquarters, both behind quality horses, were followed by a 4th in a WA Cup prelude and a 3rd in the Cup consolation after copping severe interference, all adding to the mysterious decision to leave him out of the Cup final field.
After running a game 2nd in 1.56.3 in the Mount Eden Sprint, he kept racing in fast class ranks, collecting 2 more city wins and numerous placings behind quality horses like Zakara and the Whitby cavalcade.
Returning for the next summer carnival, he again missed out on the Cup Final but ran 3rd once again in the Cup Consolation and continued to place racing towards Winter but he was finding it pretty tough going. However, mid July, he bounced back with a great open class win over his new nemesis Zakara and a game 2nd to one of Ray Duffy's quality FFA horses.
He then lost form and was spelled and when he returned, he was now an 8 year old and spite of running numerous 4th's in races like the August Cup, his time in WA was up and he headed off to South Australia. He won a major FFA at Globe Derby Park worth over $5,000, which was a veritable fortune in SA Harness Racing at the time and raced in the SA Cup worth $100,000 but the winner was a serious champion and as a rising 9 year old, the game was nearly up. Another minor Globe Derby win and numerous 2nd placings followed but as a 10 year old, he was retired after a job very well done. He was the second most successful of his sires meagre tally of 129 winners and was a little gentleman throughout his career.

Who Am I? - Fly Under The Radar Series #8

JayJay — Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:48:20 +0000

Lost the argument over the remote...there are only so many times you can watch George Michael in concert....so, lets go with another ripper old horse that flew under the radar.
Exported to Australia as a 3 year old, after a couple of modest wins in NZ for just $5k in stakes, I was as tough as teak....literally...it took me a couple of laps to get warmed up, an out and out stayer. Breeding wise, from old NZ blood with an uncomfortably close infusion of thoroughbred, the imported USA stallion of the day perked up my pedigree and I had some reasonably performed siblings but no real champs.
After lobbing in WA, I would go on to achieve an incredible 70% win place record with the emphasis being on placings. I was piloted by 10 different reinsmen, most of them Hall of Famers and none of them mugs, but I was almost the perennial bridesmaid and my earnings of $240k would, with a touch of luck, have been much greater. I also suffered from the emphasis of the day of sprint racing, the further they went, the better I got.
I was unplaced in most major 3 and 4 year old classics like the Derby, the Australian Derby and the Golden Nugget but I did nab a major 4year old win at GP and worked my way through the classes with frequent wins.But its my placings in major races that kept the till ringing over.
2nd's in the August Cup, the Stratton Cup (twice), the Media Guild Cup,the Winter Cup and the Members Sprint, 3rd's in the Fremantle Cup, the August Cup, 4th's in the Mt Eden Sprint, the Brennan Cup, the Navy Cup and a 5th in the Pacing Cup are bookended by the occasional fast class success with wins in the Botra Cup, Lord Mayors Cup and the Christmas Handicap. I excelled in the Marathon Stakes with 3 attempts producing a win and 2 seconds. All up, 22 wins and 48 placings will make this an easy get for a tough old bastard that exemplifies all the qualities of the Standardbred breed. Probably not a great betting proposition but he put food on the table for years and years.

Bill Horn

Fastmoney — Thu, 26 Oct 2017 06:48:43 +0000

http://www.harness.org.au/media-room/news-article/?news_id=35223#.WfFdE0F-D4s.twitter.

Ideal Interdominion Fantasy Field.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:07:22 +0000

This is my ideal race over the 2536 metres. In Barrier draw order. Full field of 12 and 2 emergencies. Just left a few out that don't think will come - and if they do even better. But think if could get close to this field wouldn't be too bad at all.

1. Idealindiamonds ( wildcard entry! )
2. Beaudienne Boaz
3. Mr. Mojito
4. Runoneover
5. Ohaka Punter
6. Soho Tribeca
7. Lennytheshark
8. My Field Marshall
9. Tiger Tara
10. Shandale
11. Chicago Bull
12. Lazarus
First Emergency San Carlo
Second Emergency Lets Chase The Dream
Left out a few very good Kiwi horses because don't think they will arrive. If they do there in!

Wonderful Wagin Tonight.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:02:51 +0000

First two races and two odds on favourites both unplaced @$1.45 and @$1.26 and place odds of $1.06 and $1.02. Ouch.

Going for just the one bet tonight.

Race 7. Three of them to dominate the race and run 1, 2, 3...#1.James Coburn 2. Rum Delight 7.Always Arjay ....difficult to seperate those guys so taken the always trifecta five times. ( $6 = 100% ) ...only two problems...got to get it...and will it pay $6 ?! James Coburn slightly into the red...think the other two Rum Delight and Always Arjay will take some stacking.

GP-Tues 24/10

VillageKid — Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:23:39 +0000

Colin Brown has had some decent horses over the years but does Eden Franco have the ability to be the best of the lot?

Asburton NZ 23/10

JayJay — Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:08:47 +0000

Out of interest, Ashburton,Race 9, number 10 Delishka.....first up off a very close 2nd to Bonnie Joan in a strong mares workout trial. Whatever she does tomorrow in the Mares Mile she will improve on...worth following, lovely mare. (I'll declare an interest in this one...tried pretty hard to buy her some months back.)

It's a great program with all the Inters Hopes...Lazarus, Have Faith In Me etc all going around in the 2400m Stand Ashburton Feature. The Trotters Flying Mile also a great line up.

Tasmania Harness Racing

cisco — Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:14:48 +0000

Just had a look at the Launceston fields for Sunday night. Trainer Ben Yole must have won tattslotto!!!

Bunbury Saturday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Fri, 20 Oct 2017 16:34:08 +0000

Looks a good night for the faves...Race 4 # 1. Bettor As get his chance and should win but a bit short at $1.65...Race 5 # 1. Neighlor and Suvaljko the ones to beat but just a $1.10..and Race 6 # 1. I'm Rockaria also looks good but only a $1.30 , Khun Ratha and Dredlock Rockstar some hopes of toppling that fave.

Now for the smokey...he's around 20/1 to 25/1 and only ran third in a weak field at Wagin last Saturday night and perhaps the new Albany season might be more his go , but after working in the run thought he showed a little at Wagin , just a little fella and only a little place bet , even his name is little. Race 7. # 5. Imalittlehorse.

GP Friday Fields

Chariotsonfire — Tue, 17 Oct 2017 08:03:05 +0000

Back to 10 races and much better horse numbers.

Prices shown on the HRA website indicate that value will abound with the shortest priced favorite $5.

Definitely more open than recent weeks but the markets are a fairy tale.

GP Fields Friday 20/10 (Mark II)

JayJay — Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:32:43 +0000

As old fellas completely stuffed the original thread with reminiscing central, so back to the main game...the Mount Eden sprint, great race, 10 potential Interdominion Candidates....my take is tough, tough horses win sprints with the pressure on all the way. None tougher than Soho Tribeca....he will be right in at some stage but Chicago Bull has the turn of fott to nab him if he gets the right run. Tough race.