Harness & Greyhounds - Perth Turf Talk

Time Honoured York Cup.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 09:29:26 +0000

York Cup tonight at Burwood Park.
Two roughies off the front line around $3.75 to $4 a place - Bartowski and The Black Lord. Hopefully one of them can cross fast to the pegs and get a dream run and sneak down the Northam straight into the placings.

Northan 15/11

JayJay — Sun, 13 Nov 2016 05:55:40 +0000

Very good juvenile Rich Yankee returns from a long injury enforced break (12 months) on the back of a decent trial last week. Showed great ability as a 2YO and will hopefully return well. Quality also in Major Reality returning on Monday at GP...love this time of year.

DAINTYS DAUGHTER TRIBUTE IN CUNDERDIN.

savethegame — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 10:06:28 +0000

Cunderdin museum opened its exhibit in early November of champion mare and world record holder on two different occasions Daintys Daughter.Brilliant article was penned for Australian harness racing by ,Alan Parker didn't realize the significance of her deeds she achieved in career.But growing up new of Radiant Oro and Daintys Daughter the clashes they had,. Read article at the time they had raced one another 21 times with radiant oro leading 11-10 over 3 1/2 seasons and were still racing wonder what the final score was?

Pinjarra Quaddie Today.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 04:52:00 +0000

Might as well have a crack. Not going too wide.
Race 5. #12.Harriet Price
Race 6. # 2. Major Stare 6. Americanbootscoota 7. Chevrons Champion 9. Johnny Disco
Race 7. # 4. Little Astro Boy
Race 8. # 2. Lennys In Heaven 3. Scot Bay 5. Major Rush 9. Mac Tiger 10. Swimbertweentheflags.
$20 = 100%
Skinny One.
Race 5. #12. Harriet Bay
Race 6. #2. Major Stare #9. Johnny Disco
Race 7. #4. Little Astro Boy
Race 8. # 3. Scot Bay 5. Major Rush 9. Mac Tiger 10. Swimbetweentheflags.
$8 = 100%.

GP 18/11

VillageKid — Fri, 18 Nov 2016 01:37:55 +0000

Race 1- Mister Versace

Race 2- Harry Hoo

Race 3- Bettor Be Supreme

Race 4- Jambiani

Race 5- Sprinter

Race 6- Quite A Delight

Race 7- Phoenix Warrior

Race 8- Soho Tribeca

Race 9- TwoAndaHalf Tigers

Race 10- Kiss Chasey

Unitab and Guaranteed Pools.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:07:20 +0000

Last Saturday night first race at Albion Park Unitab guaranteed a trifecta pool of two hundred thousand dollars. Meaning if the pool got up to say $190000 they foot the other $10000. As it turned out the final pool got to $248400. They didn't have to put in a cent. Point to make is...what a great idea...you guarantee $200000 and the punters come out in droves to invest. Doesn't mean the trifecta is going to pay any more or less but it does enable if you wish to be able to take 10,20,50 times and not be 'killing' the dividend. Previously they were guaranteeing around 10k...they took that to a new level of 200k and the punters came through with flying colours.
There is no carryover money or anything like that...it's simple we guarantee punters a pool of 200k if it reaches 150k we put in the other 50k...guess what they very very rarely have to put in! It's the best kept secret to increasing turnover. The proof is in the pudding...guarantee $200k get over $248k and Unitab takes its 20%...it's clever , it's punter incentive, it's a no brainer.

Pinjarra Monday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:33:42 +0000

Like the meeting. Some good clashes. Early thoughts on the first few races.
Race 1. Natural Disaster looks a special at the short odds...Clever Cover gate 1 soft run should be placed and Mifka was a very good run last week when driven by Nathan Turvey.
Race 2. Good competitive standing start...like Waltzing With Cullen for a place...was ok from the stand at Narrogin. If gets away safely and can manoeuvre through the field should be at least placed with a chance of winning.
Race 3. Looks a deadset quinella Mista Shark and Ideal Tyson. Favouring Ideal Tyson to win and also from barrier 8 drawn behind Mista Shark is I'm Lisart should get the soft run and be placed. With a slight chance of running second if the pressure goes on a fair way out from home. Like the trifecta and first 4 with Shark, Tyson and Lisart all to figure prominently.

Bunbury Cup 12/11

VillageKid — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 09:20:14 +0000

The Bunbury Cup is on tonight it should be a ripper race with a quality field assembled.

Would love to see Tricky Styx the mighty mare from Northam get up but will be tough from the outside of the front line with the likes of Our Jimmy Johnstone, Rub Of The Green, MyNamesKenny all drawn inside her.

Will also be interesting to see the tactics on Run Oneover considering there are no stablemates involved in the race.

Chris Lewis versus Three Generations.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 14:04:15 +0000

Chris Lewis has driven against Trevor Warwick and son Justin , Fred Kersley and children Greg, Kelly and Karen..if Lucy Warwick turns her hand to driving or one of the Kersley clan likewise Lewis will have driven against three generations of famous families. What's scarey is that Lewis is driving as well as ever with no signs of slowing down. He's still in 99.9% of people's top six drivers in WA. Most have him top two. How many reinsmen in Australia would have driven against grandfather, son and grandchild ? Cue JJ.

GP Tonight - Magnificent 7.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sun, 13 Nov 2016 23:58:02 +0000

Just the seven races tonight and seven odds on favourites. Putting a $100 ( monopoly money ) on each on tote to see the experiment...can you back seven odds on favourites in a row and be able to return a profit ? Will be a long road to hoe just to get the seven hundred back. We shall see.
Race 1. El Barcelona $1.40
Race 2. Overboard Again $1.30
Race 3. Master Versace $1.80
Race 4. Lady's Are Ideal $1.85
Race 5. Campora $1.50
Race 6. Harry Hoo $1.30
Race 7. Mr. Daytona $1.40
Will it be a case of...collect over $700 ? Or Odds on look on ? ....Time will tell.

Are Drivers More Conservative These Days ?

Ridersonthestorm33 — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 11:28:11 +0000

Looking at races now live and on Sky feel that reinsmen/reinswomen are a much more conservative bunch today than in the past. We all raved on about the Gary Hall Jnr. drive several weeks ago on Beaudienne Boaz when he took the risk, caught them napping and won the race, and rightly so it was a terrific drive. However drives like that were much more commonplace in previous decades. Less lightning moves are done now , drivers more content to sit where they lob..pegs are happy not to push off because the runs are coming 99% of the time. Recall Mark Reed at his peek taking them on many times...on occasions it paid off other times it didn't but he didn't die wondering. Also the lesser drivers of a previous time who use to 'attack' from the word go seem to have evaporated. Can recall being at Richmond Raceway where on a tight track five or six races in a row the speed would be right on and the swoopers always prevail. Can you imagine pacing on the Fremantle track now ? It would be leader , leaders back , breeze , one out one back every race . Many of the drivers have become more Geoff Boycott less Viv Richards.

GP 11/11

Gilgamesh — Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:12:14 +0000

I'll kick it off. Headed to the city of churches for a wedding this weekend but will have a few wagers prior to heading into the unknown.

R2 No3 Lisharry EW. As much as 20/1 around this guy who is racing in superb form. Love to see Miller aggressive at the start and take it up but even camped just off them with the good ones having to work he will play a part.

R3 No7 Franco Joaquin little for the win. Surely this is the night the roll the dice again and charge to the front. Certainly no superstars in this so worth a couple of dollars at 50/1.

R7 No8 Bettors Fire win. Again surely this is the night Harper throws caution to the wind and charges the arm, he has to make a statement. Think he does, he crosses and ge wins.

R8 No3 Glow Bright EW. Been ultra competitive for a while now, think tonight is his night to get the breaks, could even be in front after 150m.

Good luck all.

GP Tonight

Markovina — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 06:20:53 +0000

Tough gig winning money on the punt at GP these days

However the tried and true formula of a horse dropping miles in grade - Bronze Seeker - $6.50 in race 4 - last start raced against the states best B Boaz - tonight a couple of the fancies are average mares

My only concern - is a bit like Island Run in the last at Narrogin the other night - it was well graded - but it is one dimensional - sit sprinter and they walked

Bells mare might lead on its ear - walk - and BS is back last - and mission impossible

However if they run 29-30 sec qts i think Bronze Seeker will win by a cricket pitch - that is 22 yards or for old timers - 1 Chain

Lazarus Rises Again Friday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:12:31 +0000

Lazarus goes around Addington for the second time this week race 11 at the prohibitive odds of approx. $1.14 .

greyhound pup wanted

astro — Wed, 09 Nov 2016 13:36:43 +0000

Evening all.

Chasing a greyhound pup.

Not for racing but happy to pay a fair price.

Male or female but preferably from a well mannered family.

Text Astro on 0422444029 if you can help.

Northam Tonight.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 08:30:15 +0000

From Addington to Northam.
Race 1. # 8.The Rain just goes to show a soft run behind the leader even a horse like The Rain can be placed at 100/1. Had a feeling Ergo could do the same later at 50/1. But think The Rain has used up that luck. In running thought was going to drop out a few times but no she kept on kicking and got third relatively comfortably.

NZ Cup 8/11

JayJay — Sun, 06 Nov 2016 13:32:52 +0000

Staying test this Tuesday.....for punters as well with 12 events....withe all the stars up and about across the entire card. The Cup itself looks a ripper....one of the last great 3200m stands in the world......Smolda, Lazarus, Christen Me, Franco Nelson, Have Faith In Me probably the best 5 but that's leaving out some genuine top liners. Monbet in the Trot, More The Better and You Gotta Have Faith in the 3yo Sires Stakes, Dream About Me and Filed Marshall in the Group 3 mobile FFA...an absolutely quality programme.

Pinj today

Gilgamesh — Mon, 07 Nov 2016 02:30:01 +0000

Cracking 4yr old race at 3.17. I'll have something small Ideal Tyson hopefully at double figures to swoop from the 1,2. Hopefully they all run well heading towards the nugget which is my favourite race of the year.

Bunbury Tonight

Whiteyy — Sat, 05 Nov 2016 01:19:49 +0000

Any tips for tonight?

Equine Viruses and Test Results

JayJay — Sun, 06 Nov 2016 07:09:45 +0000

I am often reading about a poor performance being blamed on a "virus", often confirmed the next day by the trainer submitting a vet's report. Detail in the media or stewards reports is often scant....a low level virus or a respiratory virus or some unspecified virus. What intrigues me is how the results are obtained so quickly, how specific they are, estimated recovery time.....some must be very "low level", as 2 weeks later the horse races again, and how are the other horses in the stable quarantined from catching the virus. I have seen instances of a horse racing on a Friday night, or a Saturday and a "late report"from the trainer to the stewards being lodged the next day or on the Monday morning advising them of viral infection.. Are these viruses detected by blood test, do Vets and Labs operate 24/7, are they antigen present/antibody present/DNA present of culture grown samples that are used ....my experience of blood testing is that it takes days/weeks to obtain virology reports (as opposed to standard blood tests which can be done very quickly), so how do they get these complex techniques completed and results provided overnight or on a weekend? We humans don't receive such levels of service. Also, although viruses differ in their affect on different individuals, closed environments like stables are ideal for spreading viruses, regardless of their contagion transfer ability, respiratory viruses in particular...a one in, all in scenario. Stabling on race day in tie up stalls, wash down bays, swab boxes etc would also be a good place to spread a virus Maybe an initial report is lodged by the vet indicating illness, uitilising elevated temperature as a symptom or the like, but presumably follow up laboratory results are lodged with the stewards who may/should, depending on the results issue a statement to the public, saying "horse will be fine after 2 weeks/3months off or what ever, and back trainer "X's" horses with caution as his stable is potentially infected. I am not suggesting anything here, that a trainer or vet may do anything other than is in the best interests of the animal or trying to hide anything but some horses seem to recover quickly, others never race as well again, and info to the public is very light on in this area. Shouldn't make the channel 7 news but some info would be good for transparency.

Driver Hit big time

loose_goose — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 09:46:56 +0000

Not sure this has been discussed previously, but driver copping his fair whack here http://www.rwwa.com.au/home/industry/harness-stewards-inquiry-driver-mr-michael-young-4933.html

On what ground would G.Hall senior be involved with the hearing ?

Greyhounds – Stewards Inquiry – Mr Peter Hepple and Dr Phillip Lawton

TheDiva — Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:04:48 +0000

RWWA Stewards yesterday inquired into the discovery of the substance FERTAGYL (gonadotrophin releasing hormone) by RWWA Officials at the kennel property of Public Trainer Mr Peter Hepple on 15 September 2016, during an inspection conducted that day.

Evidence was taken from, RWWA Greyhound Deputy Chief Steward Mr Paul Searle, RWWA Veterinarian Dr Judith Medd, RWWA Stewards Compliance Officer Ms Freya Norman, Veterinarian Dr P Lawton, Owner Mrs Margaret Hepple and Public Trainer Mr Peter Hepple, assisted by Public Trainer Mr Max Julien.

After hearing evidence the following charges were issued against Mr Hepple to which he pleaded guilty.

 Charge 1 – GAR 79A(7) Out of competition testing, with the particulars of the charge relating to Mr Hepple being a registered person with RWWA, being found at the inspection of his kennel property conducted on 15 September 2016, to be in possession of the Permanently Banned Prohibited Substance Fertagyl which contains gonadotrophin releasing hormone, which could give rise to an offence if administered to a greyhound.

 Charge 2 – GAR 84A (4) (a) Treatment Records to be kept with the particulars of the charge being that Mr Hepple, being the licensed trainer, did administer the Permanently Banned Prohibited Substance Fertagyl, which contains gonadotrophin release hormone to the greyhound QUESTAR on multiple occasions those being 21/4/2016, 5/5/2016, 19/5/2016, 2/6/2016, 16/6/2016.

 Charge 3 – GAR 83 (1) Racing greyhound to be free of prohibited substances with the particulars of the charge being that Mr Hepple, being the licensed trainer, did administer the Permanently Banned Prohibited Substance Fertagyl that contains gonadotrophin releasing hormone to the greyhound DUNN AND DUNNER on the 2 October 2015 prior to it racing on 5 October 2015 for the purpose of affecting its performance in that event.

Dr Lawton pleaded guilty to the following charge;

 Charge under GAR 86 (o) Offences with the particulars being that on 20 April 2016, he being an approved on-track Veterinarian did prescribe the Permanently Banned Prohibited Substance Fertagyl to Public Trainer Mr Peter Hepple and in doing so had done a thing in relation to greyhound racing which in the opinion of the Stewards was improper.

After considering submissions in relation to penalty the Stewards reserved their decision in both cases.

Further, pursuant to Rule 92 (5), in view of the serious nature of the charges to which Mr Hepple had pleaded guilty to and in the interest of the integrity of greyhound racing and all of the circumstances, the Stewards directed that Mr Hepple’s Public Trainer’s licence with RWWA be suspended forthwith pending the outcome of this matter and the Stewards deliberations.

Media Contact: Denis Borovica – General Manager Racing Integrity Ph: 9445 5427 denis.borovica@rwwa.com.au

Gloucester Park Match Race Tuesday.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 11:08:03 +0000

Terrific clash coming up between Billies A Star (1) & Ima Connosieur (8) the barrier draw has brought them a little closer together...as impressive as Ima Connosieur has been culminating in leading all the way at Pinjarra Billies run in the same race was excellent.Can be a little ungainly but if does everything right tomorrow night and even possibly hold the lead might take some stacking as the underdog. First 100 metres may decide the race.

Redcliffe Race 8.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Thu, 03 Nov 2016 14:04:15 +0000

Worth watching this race replay on Harness Australia...it's a good example of something you rarely see anymore and that's two horses attacking hard for the early lead and not relenting...wasn't totally extreme and have seen worse...but of course both of them knocked up and were beaten down the back straight..even the commentator said words to the effect of hardly surprising. Anyway the point is that it actually gave the swoopers a chance! Two horses attacking each other after the start and persisting is becoming a rarity. What these two drivers/horses did actually helped to 'liven' a race up. Rightly or wrongly.

Fred Hough

JayJay — Sat, 29 Oct 2016 04:26:10 +0000

Very sad news that Fred Hough passed away aged 86, another of the truly great drivers of the past. I did cover Fred in the Top 50 thread some time ago (January 2015) and some of the top horses he was associated with.....the incomparable Frosty Nelson, the ageless Blue Pennant and the truly brilliant Red Vicar......along with some amusing asides. No laying out the back of the cart with flailing reins from Fred, always crouched low and fully reined up. He was a cold and astute money driver and a master horseman. His daughter was married to the late Ross Keys, and along with his Dad Arthur, formed one of the foundations families of WA Trotting.
On a further sad note, Vera Johnson, a wonderful person in her own right, joined her much loved husband Max after also passing last week. The pillars of the past continue to inevitably crumble.

Is Arsenic The Next Problem Drug at the Trots

Markovina — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 13:09:33 +0000

On the AHR site -i look at the stewards wrap - and one thing ive noticed in the last 2-3 months - particularly in Victoria - about half a dozen trainers have been charged for presenting their horse - with Arsenic levels above the allowed threshold

A couple more this week - Emma Stewart a big name facing a charge - interestingly relates to a semi final of the Vicbred - way back in June 2015 - they must be freezing the swabs - and have better testing techniques - that doesnt just apply to her - most of the others - are for races over one year ago

Kaikoura Cup NZ 2016

cisco — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 08:53:20 +0000

Hey Boys,

Was lucky enough to attend the Kaikoura Cup in New Zealand on Monday - if anyone gets the chance it is highly recommended!!

Cheers cisco

Mount Eden Pace Stewards late report

JayJay — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 12:32:06 +0000

Late Report – Gloucester Park 21 October 2016

Race 7 – Mount Eden Pace

Following a letter received by Denis Borovica Racing Integrity
Manager R.W.W.A subsequent to the running of Race 7 MOUNT EDEN PACE run
at Gloucester Park on 21 OCTOBER 2016, Harness Racing Steward Form
Analyst Trevor Styles was directed to review the Race and Betting on the
event

Mr Styles reported that

“The start was as predicted with LIBERTYBELLE MIDFREW NZ.
holding the front without any contest for the lead. A lead time of 37.5
was very moderate for an open class race and as a result BEAUDEINE BOAZ
NZ. was able to go forward and head the one out line. Thereafter the
First Quarter of the Last Mile was 29.8 a moderate section and not
surprisingly the driver of BEAUDEINE BOAZ NZ. commenced to put pressure
on the leader with the next Quarter 28.2 and then 27.1 with Final
Quarter 28.7 times that are not abnormal times for Gloucester Park with
a Mile Rate of 1.54.3. In my opinion every driver in the race gave
their drives the full opportunity to obtain the best possible position
in the race.”

A review of all wagering data did not give rise to any concerns or unusual support for any runners.

The Stewards did not have any issues with the running of this race on
the night and have since reviewed the race as is routine for all races.
It was noted that the average lead time over 2130m at Gloucester Park
in the last 12-months was 37.38 which includes juvenile and country
front races, so the 37.5 was well below average for the class of horses
competing. Given the slow lead time the leader LIBERTYBELLE MILDFREW NZ
was running, the pressure applied by BEAUDINE BOAZ NZ was reasonable and
consistent with similar times run over the final half mile when it
previously won on 30 September 2016.

The Stewards were in agreement with the opinion of the harness form analyst and satisfied as to the running of this event.

Catch the Voak Train To Kalgoorlie Tonight.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sat, 29 Oct 2016 11:07:47 +0000

Just seen early results...a double to Chris Voak after the first two races @around $5 and $7.

Albion Park Trot 1.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sat, 29 Oct 2016 07:28:49 +0000

Interesting to watch a replay of the first race at Albion Park on Harness Australia and see the difference in drives on the 9 & 10....the difference between making the choice of whether to go 3 back the pegs or stay in the one out line. The 2 main chances drawn 1 and 8...leader , leaders back...9 decides to stay one out line...10 goes 3 back at 80/1...the difference in runs especially with ground saved is remarkable. This is an era of rail/peg driving of the like never seen before.