Harness & Greyhounds - Perth Turf Talk

Bunbury R 8 Longshot

JayJay — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 12:34:26 +0000

Onlythebestwilldo.....having a sniff at $18 fixed each way. Not a lot to recommend it but but did see it run a good race at Bunbury just prior to the Inters heats.

More cobalt (Dream to Believe)

TheDiva — Thu, 03 Mar 2016 05:07:05 +0000

Harness – Stewards Inquiry – Trainer Mr Ross Miller – DREAM TO BELIEVE

RWWA Stewards have been advised by the ChemCentre in Perth, that cobalt at a concentration in excess of 200 micrograms per litre, being the threshold prescribed in the Harness Rules of Racing, has been detected in a urine sample taken from DREAM TO BELIEVE at Northam on 16 January 2016 after it had competed and won in Race 7.

This finding has been verified by the Racing Analytical Services Laboratory (RASL) in Victoria.

Accordingly the Stewards will inquire into these reports and the Trainer of DREAM TO BELIEVE, Mr. Ross Miller has been requested to attend the Stewards inquiry, which will be held in the RWWA Stewards Room at Ascot on Wednesday 16 March at 10.00am.

Acting under the provisions of Harness Rule of Racing 183 (d) and Thoroughbred rule of racing LR110, Stewards have directed that Mr Millers licences to train be suspended forthwith pending the outcome of the Stewards inquiry to the extent that he is not be permitted to nominate or present any horses to race.

Media Contact: Denis Borovica – General Manager Racing Integrity Ph: 9445 5427 denis.borovica@rwwa.com.au

GP 12th April

Chariotsonfire — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 00:58:34 +0000

With the first six races small fields and 1st to 3rd to qualify for $100,000 finals in 22nd April suggest caution if you intend to get involved.

History has shown that these races can be less than competitive and this was confirmed by the comments of Justin Prentice on radio this morning,

Qualifying is the main aim and winning a secondary consideration. Not ideal for punters.

Tougher Quaddie Today Pinjarra.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:27:11 +0000

First leg..1,2,6,8,9,11,12
Second..1,2,3,4,5,8,11
Third..4,5,7,8
Fourth...all eggs in one basket # 8.
$49 for 25%.
Leaving Lewis out of the first leg on a 20/1 chance. Goodness gracious.
Final leg bit worried about the 8 stepping away cleanly. If he does they won't beat him. If not only dangers 10 and 11.

Who Am I ...Take 4.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:53:33 +0000

Christmas time 1929 I sprung into life and I'm still going strong to this day...you could now say I'm a grand old lady. However I have had my share of trials and tribulations..during World War 2 I wasn't allowed to go to work at night due to fear of air attack by the Japanese. A lot of technological changes in society has also seen many changes in me. I've met and worked with many great people during my lifetime including celebrities and royalty, also a few crooks and scallywags too , but I wouldn't have changed a thing. Unfortunately during 1991 I lost my brother , good fellow he was , giving me breaks from work from time to time, I'm still living and working in exactly the same area I was born.
Occasionally I hear whispers around the tracks about people wanting to move me from my home , however the day that happens will be the day that I die...who am I and what was my brothers name ?

GP 8th April

Chariotsonfire — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 03:07:59 +0000

Strangely for a short time this morning TABtouch had fixed odds prices up for all GP races.

Even more surprising they seemed to be the same as Sportsbet prices and were taken down soon after.

Good tip no confidence.

CPL — Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:45:57 +0000

One for you guys to have $5 e/w on today at Northam R4 Little Bluebird. I don't usually tip my horses or dogs even when there likely to win and have but this dog has a motor but likes to run in third geari when she doesn't get her own way. She's trialed times and beat dogs comfortably, dogs that have come out next start and beat her

GP 5/4/16

Gilgamesh — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 11:31:24 +0000

Great to see 18 2yr olds running around, I was starting to wonder where they all were.

Interesting clash for the 3yr olds race 5. I see Campora is $2.20 into $1.50 with 365, is far from the genuine article yet and I wouldn't be surprised if K Hawkins kicks up under it on Soho Lexington so I don't expect it to be a walk in the park, hopefully see a progression from New World Order and I will probably have something on because I think he's going to end up over the odds but hard to really back with confidence because at some stage he will have to do some work.

R5: No1 Tactical Strike does not win out of turn but he should win this race. His danger is himself as he is very strong and I have no doubt he will pull Madison Brown's arms out so every horse in the race should get their chance but although his record might not show it on his day he does go better than these.

R6: No12 Karlas Lucky Son. I think I've found one here that is really worth a punt. $30/$5.50 with 365 at the moment. Has M Tenardi on who I think is a pretty good pegs driver which is exactly where I expect him to head and exactly where I think you are going to want to be in this because I think the majority of them are going to end up very tired over the 2500m trip. Think there might be some cat and mouse with all the Padberg runners, think Baptisme Of Fire will want to hand up to Cayenne El which I suspect Prentice will be awake to and kick up on Bet The Max. Barkers Hall and Dee Divito both have a bit of early speed too and I'd be pretty sure Barry Giudice will be going forward. This all adds up to them going faster than their ability allows and at the $30 Karlas Lucky Son has to be a run on chance, only has to go as well as it did first up.

R7 I think Hes Talking steps to the front so that has to make him the horse to beat.

R8: Nice of them to put a race like this on as the last leg of the quaddie! Due to their driver/trainer combos Four Heartbeats is $1.75 and Arlandia is $2.20, on their ability they do not deserve to be those prices.

Straight Forward Quadrella For Pinjarra Today $1 and $3 for 100%.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 00:34:49 +0000

Quaddie today looks a moral on paper...meaning that something's a moral to go wrong.
Leg 1. # 6 Better Not Knowing # 7 To Infinitybeyond # 11 Mary Catherine.
Leg 2. # 7 American Boy.
Leg 3. # 7 Mynames Kenny.
Leg 4. # 2 Twoandahalf Tigers.
$3 for 100%.
And straight down the line with Mary Catherine and the other 3.
$1 for 100%.
Might double our money! :-S

GP- 1/4

VillageKid — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 01:15:13 +0000

Race 1- Persistant Threat
Race 2- Flaming Hero
Race 3- I'm Stylish
Race 4- Besotted
Race 5- Heza Head Honcho
Race 6- Courage Tells
Race 7- Sprinter
Race 8- Shirlz Sensation
Race 9- Major Reality
Race 10- LettuceRipRita

Pinjarra Monday

Chariotsonfire — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 06:54:31 +0000

It really is time for the stewards to take a stand about horses been driven beyond their ability.

All About Pink way out of its class is desperately driven to hold out the Bond runners and runs last.

Lets see driver Hayden Charles has horses in the Justin Prentice stable but that would have nothing to do with his tactics.

Interdominion 2016

G-Mac — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:24:25 +0000

Mick Radley announced on Sky Sports Radio this morning a change to the prizemoney structure for this year's event.

The total prizemoney will stay at $1.8m but the final will drop to $1.1m with the heats increased to $75k.

Sounds as though there are further announcements to come later today. There have been rumblings of a switch back to a night final.

The Positive and The Negative.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 23:59:04 +0000

Get rid of the negative first...Was that THE Easter Cup last night..Seriously ?? Good luck to all horses but holy commissioner...Easter Cup ? Cmmmmmon.
The positive...Look no further than the old master Colin Joss..the famous red and white checks saluting , a horseman through and through. An underrated trainer...and driver too from days gone past, had no hesitation backing him in the spider , as a trainer if a horse had ability he would find it and with Lagoon Stride winning at $34 on the tote Jossy you've done it again!

Meadowbranch DJ

G-Mac — Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:02:14 +0000

The Irish horse who was spectacularly unimpressive in the Interdominion series makes his debut for John McCarthy at Menangle this afternoon.

His last 3 runs were in ID heats and he now gets to contest a C1-C2. Under PBD conditions he's drawn gate 1. Can anyone recall a class drop this big?

Smallest Track?

SLIPPERGOLDEN — Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:40:05 +0000

York is the smallest trotting track I ever attended but to you experts what would be the smallest and tightest locally and or Australia wide that you identify?

Cunderdin Cup Sunday 26/3

JayJay — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:40:34 +0000

Had my say on the emasculation of Easter, the Easter Cup in particular, ' and the continual down grading of historical races like the Cunderdin Cup which, in all honesty have never been headline races, but for the local towns and the "keeping alive" of harness racing in the bush, are super important events. For anyone interested, the past 25 winners after much searching (and with as much detail as I can dig up (life stake money in brackets) are:
1991 Anne of Whitby ($52k) Peter Schrader
1992 Shapiro ($116k)            Gary Jones
1993 Hey Jak                      Peter Arthur
1994 Ace of Whitby ($317k) Travis Bettesworth for Rod Chambers (beating the smart Norwest Boy for Jesse Moore)
1995 Little Town Blues ($104k) Gary Hall Snr
1996 Riwaka Vance ($114k)   Trevor Warwick ($350k earner Flashing Star ran 3rd)
1997 Little Town Blues wins his 2nd Cunderdin Cup for G.Hall Snr
1998 Mon Poppy Day ($318k) his last ever win for Rod Chambers
1999 Franco Eagle to go with his Pinjarra Cup. Greg Kersley for trainer Ray Williams.
2000 As far as I can find, not run.
2001 As far as I can find not run (Cunderdin Track shut down at end of 1999)
2002 Moaner Lisa ($56k)   Colin Brown (beat Jesse Moore's Wirrpunda)
2003 All Four Firing($105k)    Peter Tilbrook for Jesse Moore
2004 Bippityboppity Blue ($88k) Gary Hall Jnr for Ross Olivieri
2005 Cranky Jack ($101k) Shannon Suvaljko for brother Joe jnr
2006 Mr Axeman   Steven reed for Dad Mike.
2007 Beep Beep Zap     Morgan Woodley....a horse I honestly can't ever remember.
2008 Shinydes   ($109k)   Justin Warwick
2009 Sir Rupeni   Clinton Kimes for Frank Bratovich
2010 Nicen Shady   Wes Andrews for trainer David Goulden
2011 Miami Bravo   Robbie Williams
2012 Nifty Rocket Robbie Williams again
2013 He's A Pearler   Chris Voak
2014 What The Blazes Chris Voak again
2015 Multibet Mark Grantham for Jesse Moore

Earlier than 1991, some really top horses won the Cunderdin Cup...ongoing research to get them in some order. If anyone is interested, will put up later on but I have to say past record keeping of this sort of data is pretty random.

GP 24/3

VillageKid — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:44:19 +0000

Race 1- Tommy Be Good

Race 2- Vanquished

Race 3- Chicago Bull

Race 4- Ima Connoisseur

Race 5- The Truth

Race 6- Bettor Party

Race 7- Walter James

Race 8- Indomitable

Race 9- Avalon Bromac

Race 10- Zacharia

Northam Tonight.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:08:11 +0000

Thought blimey that looks like Chris Lewis leading on the $30 chance...sure enough he's done it again. Over $30 on the tote and rated to perfection of course. The best drivers around Australia and there are plenty of them do not drive as many winners at a price as he does. Best sportsman I've seen in Australia for consistency and longevity. Drive on Johnny Disco at Pinjarra yesterday all class.

West Australian Prices

Chariotsonfire — Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:35:42 +0000

I usually don't pay attention to newspaper markets but how anyone could come up with $33 about Maczaffair in Race 1 at Pinjarra is beyond me.

Win lose or draw should start favourite and the 2 corporates already up have it at $2.20 and $1.35.

They obviously don't care about the accuracy of these markets.

Thumbs Up and Thumbs Down.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 14:19:37 +0000

Thumbs up...to Stuart McDonald the most improved driver in the state and getting them home at good odds. Driving with flair and confidence.
Thumbs down...one of the strengths of Gloucester Park until recently was having full fields of 12 every race every Friday night. Field sizes have gradually got smaller and smaller. Last night the final four races consisted of fields the size of 6,7,6 and 7. Midweek too same again many small fields.Combined with the ridiculous maximum 9 horse field size in the 1720 metres races Gloucester Park is beginning to resemble pacing from South Australia ...ok that's an exaggeration..but you get the drift..the powers in charge are quick to use the ubiquitous word 'turnover'...somebody needs to be whispered to that fields the size of 4,5,6 and 7 are not helping the turnover cause and definitely not encouraging punters to go to the track. Regular small fields are a :-q

Albany harness club

Gilgamesh — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 09:23:56 +0000

Any news on this front?

WA sales race (harness)

CPL — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:00:51 +0000

Any stand out colts or fillys for this years
Sales race?

GP 18/3

VillageKid — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 07:56:12 +0000

Race 1- Foxy Dame
Race 2- Delightful Jade
Race 3- Glenferrie Rustler
Race 4- Erskine Range
Race 5- Machrihanish
Race 6- Ima Connoisseur
Race 7- Kimba Bay
Race 8- The Parade
Race 9- Chicago Bull
Race 10- Gone Leica Flash

Benefits of Replays.

Ridersonthestorm33 — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 23:16:15 +0000

After Justwatchme Lombo led all the way at Narrogin last night paying better than $12 on the tote saw that it had the big '0' next to his name in the form guide. That run was at GP. So was curious to have a look at that run via replay.Even though finishing last at GP was blocked for a run several times up the straight going to the line not all that far from the winner with something in the locker. In an average field last night after the GP run was a legitimate 3/1 chance , when leading easily 6/4. The 7 sitting on its back and over 4k on the first four. The moral of the story some '0' s and 8s and 9s etc in the form guide can tell a completely different story. That was a very unlucky 0. Was hitting the line with steam diving for gaps looking for a run.

WA Connection Bathurst Tiara

JayJay — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 04:11:30 +0000

2 winners from the Bathurst meeting last night had WA connections. Millwood Daisy won a heat of the Tiara Gold, first foal of WA Oaks winner Millwood Meg who was a $300k plus stakeswinner. Millwood Daisy is part owned by Solid Gold Standardbreds, the racing arm of owner John Lohman who raced all those "Gold" horses some time back...the brilliant Prince of Gold, Aphrodite Gold etc. Trained by Cran Dalgetty and being by Art Major has a very stout pedigree behind her. Then, the last race was won by Effronte, a Rock N Roll Hanover 3YO first foal out of WA Oaks winner and genuine super star multiple Group 1 winning mare Fleur De Lil (a million dollar stake earner). Fleur De Lil is a brother to the 1.51 horses Our Galvinator and Miss Galvinator amongst 7 other winners.She ran 4th in a WA Pacing Cup, and on that pedigree, Effronte should be a very nice horse.

Collie Cup 20/3/16

jum — Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:02:30 +0000

Collie cup is on this Sunday, @JayJay, Any chance you could do some reminiscing on this event and its history. Like you have done previously.(Bridgetown). Thoroughly enjoy your pieces on the trots

Madam Butterfly goes to The Disco

JayJay — Wed, 16 Mar 2016 04:16:37 +0000

Whilst doing some research for the Bridgetown Cup winners list, the prefix "Disco" came up in a lot of Bridgetown results, of course that being the breeding prefix for long time and highly successful Bridgetown breeders John and Sue Awcock. The list of very substantial "Disco" horses that have won major races was added to by Johnny Disco taking out the Caduceus Club Classic at GP last Friday, to join Disco Diva 1.56.0, Disco Fella 1.57.0 (10 wins), Disco Flyer 1.52.4, 21 wins, $186k now in USA, Disco Force 1.53.8 27 wins, $268k now in USA, Disco Invasion 1.58.9 20 wins, Disco Josu 1.56.9, Disco Lights 1.57.5 12 wins, Disco Maker 1.57.1 10 wins, Disco Spirit 1.56.5, Disco Sulinka 1.57.7 and then for something different, after switching Disco to the end of the name......Roll On Disco 1.58.3, 9 wins, Dalmore Disco 1.56.7, 12 wins, Midnight Disco 1.58.5, Hilmore Disco, Elite Disco etc etc

And why all this success? It all traces back to his foundation mare Madam Butterfly, an unraced Bob Humphries mare out of ButterflyTrunkey (dam of Tailamade Lombo no less), and who has been an absolute broodmare gem for them...quality broodmares have been, are and always will be the basis of successful breeding and I reckon John Awcock has plenty of examples to back that up....and Johnny Disco may be one of his best horses as he develops. Johnny is out of the very well performed Dalmore Disco....his formula is working.

Bridgetown Cup Winners

JayJay — Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:01:00 +0000

I think it was VK who asked about Bridgetown Cup winners....well, claiming overtime rates here because they keep their history very well hidden ...and it's very sketchy at best. Trotting started in Bridgetown in 1927/28 at the Showgrounds where it stayed until 1949. It was the 6th WA track to have lights installed....it shifted up to its current location in 1950. From 1990, there is a reasonable record but with abandoned meetings and a few years of uncertainty when it was about to be shut down, well this is the best I can come up with ....but I am working on a few old contacts and it might be a work in progress. Some pretty handy horses and some fairly ordinary ones, if you can recall all of them, then you have a punting problem .haha.(Stakes earned in brackets where it is of some sizeable amount)
1991 Matai Fella ($60k) John Graham, 1992 Prize Prince Ray Decampo, 1993 Bay View Prince Andrew DeCampo, 1994 Lazy Jay Kim Prentice, 1995 Satineeze ($60k) Terry Purnell, 1996 Hijack Harry ($100k) Joe Suvaljko, 1997 Wenatchee ($100k) John Graham, 1998 Dallas Dundee Ross Ashby, 1999 Lock and Load ($135k) I think M.J.Saw but not sure, 2000 dunno, might not have been run, 2001, dunno, might not have been run, 2002 Hillview Lightning ($106k) Andrew DeCampo, 2003 Cecilia ($66k) Andrew DeCampo, 2004 Ohoka Ace ($437k) Andrew DeCampo ...easily the best modern day winner of the Cup, 2005 Uni Bound ($103k) Kade Howson for Greg Harper, 2006 Left Pride ($151k) Kevin Keys, 2007 Disco Invasion ($119k) Shannon Suvaljko ...one of about 200 "Disco" horses the Awcocks have bred, most of them pretty decent, 2008 Levity's Rainbow ($75k) Ross Keys, 2009 The Vice Captain ($148k) Justin Prentice for Andrew DeCampo, 2010 dunno....maybe Knot JustaFireball for Kyle Harper but hold all tickets, 2011 Clancy McGuire for Matt White and Andrew DeCampo, 2012 Meeting abandoned, 2013 Reuben Brogden ($161k) Kim Young for Gary Elson, 2014 Major Catastrophe ($315k) Dean Miller, 2015 Kimba Bay Kaiden Hayter and 2016 Three Bears ($67k plus) Matt White. Best I can come up with.

GP 11/3

VillageKid — Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:20:47 +0000

Race 1- Denny Crane

Race 2- Bonny Under Fire

Race 3- The Parade

Race 4- Flyalong Falcon

Race 5- MyNamesKenny

Race 6- Thats Rite

Race 7- New World Order

Race 8- El Machine (The old marvel Shardons Rocket might be a bit too fresh for this he hasnt started for 4 days)

Race 9- Armed Force

Race 10- Kimba Bay (Good to see the Manjimup Mauler back in town)

Bridgetown Tipping

SLIPPERGOLDEN — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:38:03 +0000

Great effort from the caller tipping 6 out of 8 and yes a few were short priced but the last winner was at $21 against an odds on favourite.