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WA Horses - Success Outside of WA Since 1984

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PCPC    1,260 posts


Ok people, here is a nice one for you. I have a mate who is a proud Victorian and he doesn't rate WA racing. I have been telling him for years now that whilst WA racing as a whole is not as good as eastern states racing, if you look through the record books - WA will produce a good horse every now and then who win a Group/Listed race outside of WA.

For the last 2 months I have been finding every single WA horse since 1984 who have won a Group/Listed race outside of WA. Below is the list that I have got. I'm not sure why I chose 1984 as a starting point - not sure at all but I did and that's the starting point. See below my list and add any horses that I have missed out - I am running out of horses to find and this is where your help is appreciated. Before anyone comments, you may be surprised at some of the horses who are on this list but I have checked their career records and they along with all the other horses on this list - have won Group/Listed races outside of WA.

When this little research assignment is complete, I will show my friend and this might give him a different opinion about WA Racing.

 

 

 

Heron Bridge

Moss Kingdom



Black Knight

Placid Ark

Miss
Andretti

Plastered

Old Comrade

Northerly

RoganJosh

Spectrum

Heed The Toll

Heroicity

Starstruck

Marasco

Scenic Shot

Scenic Blast

Ethiopia

Hay List

Guyno

Bomber Bill

Cedarberg

Celestial Show

 

 

 

 

Many thanks for your help.

 

 

 

Cheers,

PC.


                                              

 

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  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    PC, you forgot about one of the best ever, that gelding by Arkenstone??
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Starstruck
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Singing the blues
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Jungle dawn
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Cedarberg and Ethiopia were bred here but have never raced on a WA track so take them of the list ,what did Heed The Toll win must have been Adelaide ,same as Jungle Dawn what did she win over east ?
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Coal Pak
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Didn't Jungle Dawn win big races in the US? I'll stand corrected if she didn't.

    PC asked for horses that won group/ listed races outside of WA, not necessarily just over east.
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Miss Muffet? I remember her racing east, can't recall if she won anything noteworthy though.
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Yeh but the Trevor Delroy horses Cederberg and Ethiopia never raced here bred locally
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Bred in WA, owned in WA, return to WA to spell. I would think they could be considered WA horses.

    Is Buddy Franklin a West Australian or a Victorian?

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  • PCPC    1,260 posts

    Ok

     

    Radman - Yeah I had Placid Ark and Starstruck already on the list but for some reason didn't include him in on my original post, had a brain snap.

     

    Dungy - Heed The Toll won the G3 Rain Lover Plate at Victoria Park, Adelaide and the Group 3 West End Draught Stakes which is now known as the Lord Reims Stakes - a race in Adelaide. Also in regards to Cedarberg and Ethiopia, as Radman has said - Cedarberg and Ethiopia were bred in WA, foaled in WA and are still owned in WA - they just don't race here. Cedarberg and Ethiopia fall into the same category as Black Knight who is a West Aussie - bred and owned in WA but raced in the eastern states.

     

     

     

     

  • PCPC    1,260 posts
    Radman said:

    Miss Muffet? I remember her racing east, can't recall if she won anything noteworthy though.

     

    Ran in the late 1980s. Unfortunately Miss Muffet didn't win any Group/Listed races outside WA. 
  • RIORIO    13,532 posts
    is Cedarberg still running around?????
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Died
    RIO said:

    is Cedarberg still running around?????




    Died
  • RIORIO    13,532 posts
    edited May 2013
    i know..another tragic that dropped on the track i think.......Just that PC said that it and Ethiopia don't race here.

    Which is correct, just that i thought that Cedarberg didn't race anywhere...anymore..
  • PCPC    1,260 posts
    edited May 2013
    Cedarberg became the second horse WA horse to win the Group 1 The BMW (Tancred Stakes) in 2011. The first WA horse to win The BMW was Heroicity in 1992
  • SmileySmiley    2 posts

    Willoughby

    Won Manifold Stakes (listed Flemington)

    Won Blamey (Group 2)

     

     

    :)>- :)>-

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  • thefalconthefalcon    15,141 posts

    didn't heroicity win the bmw??

    miss muffet was too busy sitting on her tuffet......

  • thefalconthefalcon    15,141 posts
    cannot say starstruck was a wa horse...she was a reject from the waterhouse stable.
  • PCPC    1,260 posts

    cannot say starstruck was a wa horse...she was a reject from the waterhouse stable.


    Had 46 career starts, of those 46 starts, 10 starts were with Gai.
  • thefalconthefalcon    15,141 posts
    still a reject, pc
  • PCPC    1,260 posts

    didn't heroicity win the bmw??

    miss muffet was too busy sitting on her tuffet......

    Yep Heroicity won a BMW
  • ChrisChris    4,007 posts
    Other than Haylist, was Marasco the last horse to win a carnival major?

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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,308 posts
    Like An Eagle won a listed race in Victoria also
  • PCPC    1,260 posts
    Chris said:

    Other than Haylist, was Marasco the last horse to win a carnival major?


    Yep  - a Group/Listed outside of WA. Spot on.
  • RIORIO    13,532 posts
    Chris said:

    Other than Haylist, was Marasco the last horse to win a carnival major?

    Your talking Melbourne Carnival???

    Didn't Scenic blast get a good one up Queensland??
  • TiversTivers    6,503 posts
    How about all the ones in Honkers, Singa etc ?
    Shout From Maroof et al
  • PCPC    1,260 posts
    Tivers said:

    How about all the ones in Honkers, Singa etc ?
    Shout From Maroof et al

     

     




    What Group/Listed races did Shout From Maroof win outside of WA?

     

    Did Shout from Maroof have another name before going to Hong Kong?

  • tonytony    1,652 posts
    RIO said:

    Chris said:

    Other than Haylist, was Marasco the last horse to win a carnival major?

    Your talking Melbourne Carnival???

    Didn't Scenic blast get a good one up Queensland??
    Scenic Shot won a McKinnon
  • PCPC    1,260 posts

    What I intend on doing when I have finished this research is put all of the WA horses who have won Group/Listed races outside of WA from 1984 onwards on this thread. Included will be the actual horse, career record and their major wins (Group/Listed) with the major wins outside of WA highlighted.

     

     

    Cheers,

    PC.

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