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motivatedmotivated    334 posts
edited December 2013 West Australian Racing
How embarrassing the stewards accepted this explanation

RACE 6: ST
IHL PTY LTD HANDICAP
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1000M
MISS BUX (Chris Parnham)
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Lay outwards and consequently raced wide throughout and
compounded in the straight.
A
post race Veterinary examination revealed no abnormalities.
Trainer Mr G. Williams was advised that it was now his intention to add blinkers to the mare’s
gear and race it over an increased distance at its next start.

It was losing ground, hung out bad from the 700m. It suffered career ending lacerations to it's near hind, which clearly is still affecting the mare as she laid out and couldn't get around the corner.

Her first 2 runs were over 1200 in which she won impressively enough, backed off the map each time. It runs LAST in a midweek after never going straight, and they accept this explanation? Surely a horse of her quality should be made to trial again under more raceday like pressure.

Surely it should just be retired like it originally was.




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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,320 posts
    Agreed an uninformed punter would have thought she was a good bet today...

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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Horse is not right. Massive drift on course suggested same.
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  • motivatedmotivated    334 posts
    edited December 2013
    Even more reason to send it back to trials Diva instead of accepting no blinker and needs more ground!

    Or better yet retire it...would be a super valuable broodmare if you look at the progeny from Fluffy Duck
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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    edited December 2013
    Williams and Parnham can't be blamed for the performance mate, it was previously trained by Simon Miller and yes there's every likelihood it hasn't recovered properly either physically or mentally from the shocking injuries it suffered. Its trials clearly indicated that at best they would be more hopeful than confident.
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I'm agreeing motivated. Trials indicated she was nowhere near right.
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  • VoodooVoodoo    1,347 posts
    Was she a good track worker at Simons Motivated ??? May find her essence again with the blinkers ???

    cheers


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  • RodentRodent    7,313 posts
    @Diva how do you know what her latest trial was like? I thought it wasn't filmed?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I have spies! 

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  • RodentRodent    7,313 posts
    I hope your spies didn't sabotage the PR.com camera!
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I think that was funkster's mob....

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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,320 posts
    The Diva said:

    Horse is not right. Massive drift on course suggested same.

    $9+ on betfair so hopefully she didn't get to many peoples money! I think she was borough as a broodie send her to the Hunter and wait for next season? 

    Id be very surprised to see her race again.

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  • motivatedmotivated    334 posts
    Andrew Carter said:

    Williams and Parnham can't be blamed for the performance mate, it was previously trained by Simon Miller and yes there's every likelihood it hasn't recovered properly either physically or mentally from the shocking injuries it suffered. Its trials clearly indicated that at best they would be more hopeful than confident.

    Yeah agree, not blaming the Williams connections as such, but more so the stewards for accepting the explanation, but agree with above post, was no money at all for her. Just sad to see such a high class filly that again we will never see the best of!
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  • PuntingTragicPuntingTragic    1,141 posts
    Looked very big in the yard looked to me she would need more racing rather than trials
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  • motivatedmotivated    334 posts
    PuntingTragic said:

    Looked very big in the yard looked to me she would need more racing rather than trials

    She had 3 trials, surely fitness wouldnt be the reason she got beat a furlong and hung off the track.
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  • PuntingTragicPuntingTragic    1,141 posts
    Just saying she looked well above her self in the yard hence she got the blows big drifter late

    Also gear issues could be the problem but agree she went awful an retirement may be the option

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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Surely it would have been pretty easy for the concourse vet to check if she was lame after the race?
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  • HenleyBrookHenleyBrook    408 posts
    With Grant Williams experience with horses... for the wellbeing of the animal, you would think you just wouldnt send it around if the trial was that horrible and its track work must reflect that...In the same race, Your Buy's trial was ordinary at best even though it won it. Wouldnt have a clue where the money came for that especially a maiden in a 0-72! I thought the maiden Razy Rose was the run of that trial.
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    HenleyBrook said:

    With Grant Williams experience with horses... for the wellbeing of the animal, you would think you just wouldnt send it around if the trial was that horrible and its track work must reflect that...In the same race, Your Buy's trial was ordinary at best even though it won it. Wouldnt have a clue where the money came for that especially a maiden in a 0-72! I thought the maiden Razy Rose was the run of that trial.

    I can only guess in saying that Your Buy must have had some injury issues since its debut campaign late last year. Because in the horses debut campaign it was running in Saturday company (albeit against the same age group), and it ran 2nd to Miss Solis, 2nd to Detection and 2nd to Wombies Legacy on two occasions. But it was always going to be risky in backing the horse first up when you consider it was only having it's 2nd race start since then, and it didn't produce when it raced first up back in May either. I hope for the sake of Stephen Rowe and the owners, that the horse can turn its form around.
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  • PuntingTragicPuntingTragic    1,141 posts
    The Funkster said:

    Surely it would have been pretty easy for the concourse vet to check if she was lame after the race?

    I looked at her after the race in the mounting yard head was low however nothing stood out she just looked fat to me
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  • peleuspeleus    70 posts
    edited December 2013
    I noticed that too. I think they need to do a better job on her diet though. Looks like they're overfeeding here. image
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  • motivatedmotivated    334 posts
    Again went awful compared to previous form...gone before straightening again...no stewards report or follow up....looked short in the mounting yard in my opinion....should be retired...

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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,320 posts
    Can't believe they races her again....disgrace!

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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Didn't look right in the run to me.
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  • PuntingTragicPuntingTragic    1,141 posts
    Went a bit better like I said above she was very fat in the yard first up

    Couple more runs she what she's got left she looked to me like a horse that needs racing way above in condition
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  • magoo83magoo83    969 posts
    A lot of the time it's the mental side of things that prevent a horse coming back from injury

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited January 2014
    I had a very little bit on her Saturday - a blind bet. Tried to get a look at her on TV, to no avail. Would like to get a look at her in the yard

    If she is just underdone then after a couple more runs we may see the best of her again - she seemed to ping and run along ok and then just die in the a.r.s.e. Did not appear to be restricted in her movement - it looked like she just ran out of condition :-??
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    One of mine had a similar injury. Tried to get him back twice after 3 ops. He would be fine at 90-95% effort but would be restricted when putting in max effort in the straight. He was fine in the mounting yard when returning, but after a hose down you could see he was slightly lame.
    There seems to be some similarities here
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  • motivatedmotivated    334 posts
    PuntingTragic said:

    Went a bit better like I said above she was very fat in the yard first up

    Couple more runs she what she's got left she looked to me like a horse that needs racing way above in condition

    Punting Tragic, dare say she could be 75% fit and beat most of the field she has faced so far this prep.

    If it was fitness she would get to the 200m and then hit the wall, both times she has been gone well before to turn. And the hanging out 1st up is a dead set give away.

    Possibly maybe she is bigger in condition because she is too unsound to gallop much? She had 3 trials....I cannot accept that fitness is the reason.


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  • PuntingTragicPuntingTragic    1,141 posts
    Takes a bit to get em fit mate she's a gross mare I watched her in the run her condition gave out but better least she went straight

    Barring injury 2 more starts for her sing hurt expect sharp improvement third up

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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Three trials and two starts and she's still unfit? That's a gee up surely?
    Beaten 8.5lens, gone on the bend...

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