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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    thefalcon said:

    ^^ careful thunder... [-X

    What concerns ye Falc? going the reverse way? Caulfield? 
    The step up to 1800 is perfect i think there isn't much to worry him, unsure about betting though because he is now into 1.80...goddamit!
  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    9,087 posts
    Would Incentivise get any (if any) penalties for tomorrows win going forward for the Caulfield Cup and Melbourne Cup?
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    edited September 10
    Would Incentivise get any (if any) penalties for tomorrows win going forward for the Caulfield Cup and Melbourne Cup?



    Confident are you? lol
    To be honest i'm not 100% sure but i thought with WFA you didn't? though maybe that's only after weights are released WFA wins are exempt? He only has a rating of 82 at the moment.
  • jumjum    3,012 posts


    To be honest i'm not 100% sure but i thought with WFA you didn't? though maybe that's only after weights are released WFA wins are exempt? He only has a rating of 82 at the moment.
    Will be a lot higher after tomorrow  :D

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  • thefalconthefalcon    17,941 posts
    i'm sure WFA races are exempt from any penalty, but if he wins tomorrow his rating will skyrocket.
    its been a huge plunge, opened on monday at $11, now odds on. dunno if the bookies are shite scared or has it been an avalanche of cash.
    i know he's brained them in qld..but what has he beaten? tomorrow he meets some very, very good wfa horses AT wfa, which has always been a great leveller. 
    all will be revealed at 2.50pm tomorrow....
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    3.90 now Falc but yes heavily backed, i'm also on the fence about him winning at 1600 tomorrow. 
    Mo'unga, Aegon is a gun at 1600, Tofane could be but on trial at the trip, Inspirational Girl will be better tomorrow..by far the best gallopers he has met several are genuine group 1 horses those 4 should provide serious competition if not beat him.

    Will be a ripper race for sure though, amongst some specials running at Flemington  B-)
  • PCPC    1,866 posts
    thefalcon said:

    i'm sure WFA races are exempt from any penalty, but if he wins tomorrow his rating will skyrocket.

    its been a huge plunge, opened on monday at $11, now odds on. dunno if the bookies are shite scared or has it been an avalanche of cash.
    i know he's brained them in qld..but what has he beaten? tomorrow he meets some very, very good wfa horses AT wfa, which has always been a great leveller. 
    all will be revealed at 2.50pm tomorrow....



    Any race win, before Cup weights are declared (this year weights to be released on 14th September) can mean a horse can get a higher handicap rating which means more weight for the Cup

    However, once weights are released/declared, only handicap wins can attract a weight penalty for a winner, if any. No wins at WFA can attract a weight penalty after original Cup weights have even released.

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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    Yep thought that was the case thanks PC

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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    Inspirational Girl has been scratched what a shame.
  • thefalconthefalcon    17,941 posts
    ^^ any reason given?
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    thefalcon said:

    ^^ any reason given?

    Elevated temp. so not serious thankfully, still a shame as she likely would have run well.
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    @Coolth is seeking sponsorship from Dairy Farmers...looks to have a big milktank capacity  :P
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    Giddyup @skids... $3.30 was decent enough overs which is what i got :D

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  • SKIDSSKIDS    991 posts
    Won with a leg in the air.

    One more run before the Invitation, probably The Golden Pendant.... loving the 10's I got in the Invitation.

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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    Cats Central @Flemington fn Typical.....
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    edited September 11
    Anamoe baby!! :x ILY JMAC
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    This week my all-in watch horses for Saturday and likely early bets are Verry Elleegant in the George Main(the boosted $2.90 available is overs)and Nonconformist in the Naturalism at Caulfield.Things don't often go right for this bloke a win is well overdue and he loves Caulfield, odds for his race will be available around midday.


  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    SENSATIONAL edition of the Shorts looms at Randwick with a possible field of

    Nature Strip 2.50, Masked Crusader 3, Rothfire 4.50, Eduardo 6, Lost And Running 7, Gytrash 11 and September Run an extremely decent sprinter who is $26 that's how hot the field is.
    LOTS of speed Masked Crusader stalks and goes bang late? Gytrash will stalk too not 100% on him being a true G1 horse but still very good and has beaten NS.
  • PCPC    1,866 posts
    A Timeform rating of 122 for Incentivise for winning the G1 Makybe Diva Stakes. Runner-Up was Mo'Unga got a Timeform rating of 121 (career best rating) and Sir Dragonet posted a Timeform rating of 120 when finishing 3rd.

    Reference:

    https://www.racingandsports.com/news/timeform/timeform-news/2021-09-13/timeform-recap-2021-makybe-diva-stakes/559441
  • ArapahoArapaho    46 posts
    Spring over for Inspirational Girl
    Bob leaning to bringing, her home.
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    Bummer, lately he has had some bad luck.
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts

    This week my all-in watch horses for Saturday and likely early bets are Verry Elleegant in the George Main(the boosted $2.90 available is overs)and Nonconformist in the Naturalism at Caulfield.Things don't often go right for this bloke a win is well overdue and he loves Caulfield, odds for his race will be available around midday.


    Am on VE @2.90.
    Nonconformist opened at $8 and is steady which to me is a decent price but Sportsbet won't boost up idk why, there is money for Degraves the import(which is typical) and Tralee Rose 2nd up is 5.50 fav.Think i will watch on this time(and likely kick myself later for doing so) 
  • Precision1Precision1    249 posts
    edited September 14

    Bummer, lately he has had some bad luck.

    No doubt he has but surely this is over conservatism?  A temperature spike is not a campaign ending issue, perhaps it makes the Cox plate out of reach but surely the Empire Rose is still there after a week or so let up?

    Back here I can’t see a railway on the cards with the weight she would get so it’s the Kingston Town where he will likely have Western Empier, Regal Power and probably a couple of 3yo which includes Arcadia Grace who if shecan get there they’re all probably running for 2nd anyway
  • tonytony    2,125 posts
    He has also said she was unlikely for the Perth carnival
  • VoodooVoodoo    954 posts
    White bridle with wh
    tony said:

    He has also said she was unlikely for the Perth carnival

    Obviously bigger issues at the core.....

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  • thefalconthefalcon    17,941 posts
    i fear you may be right, voodoo.
  • jumjum    3,012 posts
    jum said:


    To be honest i'm not 100% sure but i thought with WFA you didn't? though maybe that's only after weights are released WFA wins are exempt? He only has a rating of 82 at the moment.
    Will be a lot higher after tomorrow  :D
    Was a pretty big jump in ratings  @-)

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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    Couple of good bets at Newy today :

    Great News in the Tibbie Stakes she is due and the barrier is less crapola today and,
    Harpo Marx in the cup this horse is absolutely flying, the downgrade in jockey due to covid is the only concern though he just gets back runs on so expect his style suits newy with its nice long straight.
  • ArapahoArapaho    46 posts
    be wary the old grey is flying too
  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    5,258 posts
    Both went schitthouse  :-q

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