In this Discussion
- Billycat August 2016
- CPL November 2016
- DamienWyer May 2022
- DTR October 2016
- goose August 2016
- Jordan August 2016
- Legless November 2016
- Lendmefifty June 2017
- MinesACorona September 2016
- Ohsomodest July 2017
- paraletic May 2018
- RIO May 2018
- silky October 2016
- The_Bull November 2016
- TheDiva August 2016
- TheFunkster August 2017
- Tivers May 2018
Which Stallion/s are PTT's Breeding with this season?
Breeding
With the in the arrival a number of new stallions to WA, All American and Foreplay at Geisel Park, I'm All The Talk at Mungrup, Yarradale with Bradburys Luck are any of PTT's breeders supporting the new arrivals.
This season seems quite difficult as some current stallions have preformed well, Demerit, War Chant, Universal Ruler, Patronize and Blackfriars of course. Oratorio is always a steady producer, Alfred Nobel and Dick Turpin are also around. Chelsea has also mentioned Maschino and Snippetson in his second term in WA
I have missed out quite a few but the list would never end.
Who is your stallion this season?
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We have got 2 ripper Planet Five yearlings and he has got a few winners over the line from the last lot that went out, so may go back next year.
But Blackfriars whilst he is still going and Ouqba, as he suits my mare very well for this season
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At less than 35% any Stallion is going to have a very slow start. By comparison, Demerit with 18 individual winners is at 42.9% winners to runners.
I like him as a type, but shuttle stallions rarely click here like colonial bred stallions do. So I would want to see a significant upward trend in success for Dick Turpin in this coming season as I think he can make it, but like a lot of others, he lives and dies by his results in the ring and on the track.
Damien can you throw up some stats of the best breed to race stallions standing in WA please?
Blackfriars 326 winners, 57.4% winners to runners, 33 stakes winners
Snippetson 306, 62.4, 11
Bradbury's Luck 187, 66.5, 7
War Chant 95, 49.7, 15
Dash For Cash 337, 64.1, 8
Trade Fair 178, 59.7, 10
Viscount 285, 57.2, 11
Oratorio 189, 55.4, 11
Foreplay 104, 61.5, 4
Kendel Star 76, 55.5, 5
Econsul 83, 56.1, 3
Danehill Express 116, 50.4, 5
Eternity Range 76, 53.1, 5
Due Sasso 92, 52.6, 2
Patronize 34, 58.6, 0
Foreplay is the opposite though, he has a good ratio of winners to runners, but not of quality with just 4 stakes winners. Bradbury's Luck, Dash For Cash and Snippetson fall into that category as well.
The surprise for me is that Trade Fair has turned out to be a good find for WA.
But Blackfriars is the king of the hill. His retirement, whenever it happens, will leave a massive hole in WA breeding. Trade Fair is the logical successor, but nothing else on this list or those that didn't make it will fill that void.
So I hope it is one of the new boys with crops about to debut in coming seasons. We should really be collectively shopping for another stallion prospect though.
I think he is very sharp at this early stage, and I know that some Trainers have reasonable stock for the upcoming season. His big problem will be a lack of runners over the next two seasons having had well documented issues that were out of his control.
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If you're looking at his record across the globe, then going by last year's MM booklet suggests he's had 574 runners for 388 winners and 33 stakes winner.
But his numbers are 31 winners at a rate of 44.9% with 2 stakes winners.
I haven't looked over the fence at Sessions yet, Neville tells me he is a super specimen that will impress. If opportunity presents itself I will be going down there for a look, and I might even take the camera.
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Not WA related but this just popped up on my linkedin account
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/have-you-planned-succeed-paul-knight?trk=hp-feed-article-title-publish
There is quite a bit of depth in WA this season, on the weekend I had the opportunity to visit a few studs.
Will be interesting to see how Ouqba goes this 2yr old season. Well it'll be interesting for me anyway!!!
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I did have a look at Trade Fair, Maschino, All American and Foreplay on the weekend. All of which looked fantastic.
Think of the fun to be had naming the progeny of a Dick Turpin mare and Foreplay :))
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Yep could of had a lot of fun with our DT, but a spoil sport came up with a "nice" name pffft...haha Just turned 3, is close to 17hands and as soon as he trims up a bit we are hopeful of adding to DT's reputation.
Trade Fair, is a great sire too. We have enough for the size of our industry and the prices are right. Our sires and our racing can support up to $10k serves, with $3-7k where the majority should be...and i think that is realistic, and the stallion owners are currently being realistic. What they have done by improving their mares was long overdue and the biggest improvement to local stock that could happen. Irrespective of the bull.
If my opinion is worth anything then in my opinion i think the balance of breeding options and bulls is about right for our industry now. And there have been steady improvement with our bred for sale stock due to mare upgrades over the past 3 or 4 seasons...
Sorry, nice night for a waffle. On a sadder note we lost both our foals this year. Different farms, different scenarios, but disappointing. Both got free returns, but throws our plans well out of whack for the next few years.
Okay waffle over, the fire needs another log!!!