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  • LendmefiftyLendmefifty    227 posts
    edited March 2017
    Yep, you have to go back to find anything decent produced on his female page.
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  • helmethelmet    50 posts
    Very strong mail Awesome Rock will stand in Perth for a very good price.. under 10k.
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  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    helmet said:

    Very strong mail Awesome Rock will stand in Perth for a very good price.. under 10k.

    another unproven first season sire?? Or has he stood somewhere??
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  • helmethelmet    50 posts
    RIO said:

    helmet said:

    Very strong mail Awesome Rock will stand in Perth for a very good price.. under 10k.

    another unproven first season sire?? Or has he stood somewhere??
    RIO said:

    helmet said:

    Very strong mail Awesome Rock will stand in Perth for a very good price.. under 10k.

    another unproven first season sire?? Or has he stood somewhere??
    RIO said:

    helmet said:

    Very strong mail Awesome Rock will stand in Perth for a very good price.. under 10k.

    another unproven first season sire?? Or has he stood somewhere??

    only just retired from racing after this years edition of the Australian Cup. Could be wrong but pretty sure he'll be Fastnet Rocks highest earning son at stud.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,709 posts
    If this is to be confirmed, it is a huge boost for WA.

    Awesome Rock by Fastnet Rock (107 SW) is of course a recent Gr1 and Gr2 winner in Melbourne, he is out of Gr3 winner Awesome Planet by Giant's Causeway (99 SW). She produced three to date so far, all are winners. She in turn out of a Fasliyev (29 SW) mare, Dance On The Moon. Awesome Rock descends from the incomparable Rose Of Jericho by Alleged (26 SW), the dam of three stakes winning  Stallions in Archway (17 SW), Shinko King (14 SW) and Dr Devious (2 SW). She is also the grand dam of both Gr1 winning Suzuka Phoenix and Dancing Rain.

    Awesome Rock being by Fastnet Rock (by Danehill 211 SW) was stunningly well bred out of Awesome Planet, a Giant's Causeway (Storm Cat 53 SW) mare in turn out of a Fasliyev (29 SW) mare. She has been given every opportunity to produce again at stud with a yet untried Pierro filly and a Snitzel filly to follow in the years ahead. This year she carries a full to Awesome Rock.

    Around one month ago I thought Awesome Rock would be lost to WA based breeders, so for Alan and Sue Olive to retain this stallion (if confirmed) it will mean a huge boost to local stallion ranks with genuine proven quality, and from a family of black type success with direct link to multiple successful stallions around the World.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,709 posts
    edited March 2017
    http://www.tbwa.net.au/2017/03/rommel-retires-to-mogumber-park/

    Rommel (Commands) to stand for a $5,500 service fee
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  • jumjum    3,533 posts
    Rommel and Lucky Street at $5.500. Seriously WTF

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,709 posts
    Gingerbread Man goes back to second on the First Season Sires list, only behind Pierro, after the Karrakatta Plate. Only four of his sixteen named two year old's have raced so far.
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  • NgawyniNgawyni    744 posts
    Bit early to put wraps on Gingerbread Man. 

    Achernar Star is a half to Man Booker (by Discorsi) and Atacama Sky (by Scandal Keeper). It may be the mare that deserves the credit.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    And AS ain't no MB......

    Good to hear someone (else) emphasise the mare/s though. Has so much (more) to do with it, but so less often mentioned.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,709 posts
    Early would be defined by having just four starters, but it's been a bloody good start.
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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
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  • CPLCPL    632 posts
    edited April 2017
    The only problem we all face these days are the mares we hold are by sons of Danehill or from mares by sons of Danehill.
    A problem for some.

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  • whereamigoingwrongwhereamigoingwrong    260 posts
    CPL said:

    The only problem we all face these days are the mares we hold are by sons of Danehill or from mares by sons of Danehill.
    A problem for some.

    CPL said:

    The only problem we all face these days are the mares we hold are by sons of Danehill or from mares by sons of Danehill.
    A problem for some.

    CPL said:

    The only problem we all face these days are the mares we hold are by sons of Danehill or from mares by sons of Danehill.
    A problem for some.

    CPL said:

    The only problem we all face these days are the mares we hold are by sons of Danehill or from mares by sons of Danehill.
    A problem for some

    The only problem we all face these days are the mares we hold are by sons of Danehill or from mares by sons of Danehill.
    A problem for some.

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  • whereamigoingwrongwhereamigoingwrong    260 posts
    Look at my bloodstock
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Same. Only got one mare by a Danehill sire.
    Generally they haven't been much good so we've moved them on. (And / or other line mares have been better, so kept them in preference).
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  • LendmefiftyLendmefifty    227 posts
    edited April 2017
    I'm after opinions and knowledge. Belhus Racing has shares left in a Planet five x Shake Shake Shake colt that catches the eye and what really appeals to me is that the female line has a very high percentage of winners. Does any one have any knowledge of this stallion and in particular how the sons of that sire line have faired in WA as sires?

    I'm not after opinions of Belhus Racing or the trainer on an open forum as I believe that is unfair to air in an open forum (but feel free to PM me with your good and bad experiences).

    Thanks in advance.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Well you're looking at the right thing - the female side.
    One thing you could look at to give you confidence is - has that female line thrown winners to that sire line ?

    Also - does that sire carry any dominant female blood in his pedigree that this family (female line) also carries ?

    That has more significance than what that sire line has done in general.

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  • MinesACoronaMinesACorona    184 posts
    Jay Rooney tweeting that All American relocating to Vic.

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  • silkysilky    344 posts
    MinesACorona said:

    Jay Rooney tweeting that All American relocating to Vic.

    https://www.breednet.com.au/news/133885/All-American-Relocates-to-Victoria

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,709 posts

    VICTORIA

    Wolf Cry, Larneuk
    Holler, Darley
    Frosted, Darley
    Rebel Dane, Swettenham
    Palentino, Sun Stud
    Cable Bay, Woodside
    Swear, Spendthrift
    Mshawish, Swettenham

    SOUTH AUSTRALIA

    Sir Prancelot, Cornerstone

    NSW

    Winning Rupert, Newgate
    Capitalist, Newgate
    American Pharoah , Coolmore
    Xtravagant, Newhaven
    Shalaa, Arrowfield
    Maurice, Arrowfield
    Air Force Blue, Coolmore
    Sooboog, Kitchwin Hills
    Flying Artie, Newgate
    Extreme Choice, Newgate
    Territories, Darley
    The Last Lion, Darley
    Mikki Isle, Arrowfield
    Star Turn, Vinery
    Bobby's Kitten, Twin Hills
    Odyssey Moon, Twin Hills
    Stratum Star, Widden
    Divine Prophet, Aquis

    TASMANIA

    Alpine Eagle, Armidale

    WA

    Lucky Street, Darling View
    Vert de Grece, Geisel Park
    Rommel, Mogumber Park
    Awesome Rock, Gold Front

    NZ

    Vadamos, Rich Hill
    Tarzino, Westbury
    Tivaci, Waikato
    Turn Me Loose, Windsor
    Vanbrugh, Windsor
    Rageese, Windsor

    QLD

    Kiss And Make Up, Aquis
    Furnaces, Aquis

    RELOCATIONS

    Manhattan Rain, Blue Gum, Vic
    Charge Forward, Murrulla Stud, NSW
    Husson, Aquis, Qld
    Sweet Orange, Aquis, Qld
    Skilled, Vic
    Rich Enuff, Woodside, Vic
    Zoustar, returns to Woodside, Vic
    Master Of Design, Greta West, Vic
    All American, Chatswood, Vic

    Relocation QLD
    Rothesay to Lyndhurst
    Jet Spur to Grandview
    Real Saga to Eureka

    I'm sure there are more to come

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  • CPLCPL    632 posts
    Kings Troop to Taunton vale
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  • MinesACoronaMinesACorona    184 posts
    The 2017 season will be an interesting one.
    The addition of five first season sires with should create some interest.

    Who if any of the new sires would you support?
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Awesome Rock
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  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    been burned with first season sires a couple of times, but out of that lot i'd also choose Awesome Rock.
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  • The_BullThe_Bull    918 posts
    Vert de Grece. Good Racehorse, and the sire line has worked well in WA in the past.
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  • MinesACoronaMinesACorona    184 posts
    I haven't had a chance to look at any in the flesh as of yet, but I would lean towards Awesome Rock and Vert de Grece.

    However at the moment I may hold off on breeding for the foreseeable future.
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  • lamelame    1,757 posts
    RIO said:

    been burned with first season sires a couple of times, but out of that lot i'd also choose Awesome Rock.



    Kings Troop nice female line , 3/4? Snitzel
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    3/4 in blood (got different Mums).
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  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    lame said:

    RIO said:

    been burned with first season sires a couple of times, but out of that lot i'd also choose Awesome Rock.



    Kings Troop nice female line , 3/4? Snitzel
    i know it has good bloodlines and it may carry them forward. But i just cant see myself taking a chance on a maiden only winning stallion. I reckon with its bloodlines it should've done a lot better on the track. He wouldn't be on my list, and with race and stud proven stallions for a similar price i'd be looking elsewhere.

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