Belmont 31/5/17West Australian Racing

Gray

just getting the thread started.

Esperanca will probably get me again this week after I said it should be racing at Collie after last start.

Hard and Fast giving another chance.

The_Real_Peterman

Last chance for Harry Thomas(race 3). I'm not sure if I'm backing it but I just want to see smokin Joe take no prisoners. Sitting in behind something and sprinting is not his go so holding his position from inside gates is a task. Ride him like you stole him, Joe.

hash

race 4 looks the most competitive race on the card, 8 or 9 winning chances for mine

and in rave 6 if Jackpot Prince is ever going to win again wednesday will be the day 

Dillinger

Going wide tda ...

Race 2 Sobrero .... R4 Yeah Dardy....R6 Esperanca..

R7..Get out stakes.. Call 911....

carey

in case anybody cares

Rodent

Wow, the ground shot clearly showed Ace's Wish the winner

Rodent

I think the long shot supported Ace's Wish as well. A very narrow margin but a margin nonetheless.

carey

Rodent said:

Wow, the ground shot clearly showed Ace's Wish the winner

i thought it won by an easily discernible margin.

MazzFillup

there has been some weird photos lately!

Rodent

I believe that Ace's Wish won. After studying the photo, Harry Thomas looks to have a nose an elephant seal would be proud of. This abnormal distortion is not evident in the video and I believe it to be a shadow or artifact.

 I'm having trouble with the image quality but everything points to Ace's Wish having a clear margin.

carey

i think the decision is probably right.
i put the video on the computer, and i can't find a margin on the line, either side of it yes, but not right on line

Rodent

I'll put up the actual image after enhancement

TSS

2 or 12 in the next guys

Rodent

Rodent

carey said:

i think the decision is probably right.
i put the video on the computer, and i can't find a margin on the line, either side of it yes, but not right on line

Do me a favour. In the video have a look at the front legs of Ace's Wish 2 frames and then 1 frame before the finish. I'm sure the extended front leg looks to elongate the nose of Harry Thomas just before the finish. I hope that hasn't led to a dark artifact that looks to extend the nose of Harry Thomas on the line.

The_Real_Peterman

@Rodent Dark artifact? Are you  serious? Both groups of owners/trainers have a right to inspect the photo before correct weight is declared.

udontknow

Rodent said:

carey said:

i think the decision is probably right.
i put the video on the computer, and i can't find a margin on the line, either side of it yes, but not right on line

Do me a favour. In the video have a look at the front legs of Ace's Wish 2 frames and then 1 frame before the finish. I'm sure the extended front leg looks to elongate the nose of Harry Thomas just before the finish. I hope that hasn't led to a dark artifact that looks to extend the nose of Harry Thomas on the line.

I'm having trouble matching up the replay to the photo also. Back leg of third horse extended backward in photo. Not evident in replay. Hmmmm

udontknow

HALAVADANCE @41s

udontknow

udontknow said:

HALAVADANCE @41s

Save on impresszar

udontknow

O'REILLY'S CRUMPET

Each way special. If i was a bookie id have it at $4.60

udontknow

Quartet always 3-5-8-10-14

Rodent

udontknow said:

Rodent said:

carey said:

i think the decision is probably right.
i put the video on the computer, and i can't find a margin on the line, either side of it yes, but not right on line

Do me a favour. In the video have a look at the front legs of Ace's Wish 2 frames and then 1 frame before the finish. I'm sure the extended front leg looks to elongate the nose of Harry Thomas just before the finish. I hope that hasn't led to a dark artifact that looks to extend the nose of Harry Thomas on the line.

I'm having trouble matching up the replay to the photo also. Back leg of third horse extended backward in photo. Not evident in replay. Hmmmm

If you look at the video replay, the 3rd horse's hind leg is extended as that hind leg crosses the line. Remember that's how the photo finish works.

udontknow

udontknow said:

O'REILLY'S CRUMPET

Each way special. If i was a bookie id have it at $4.60

Well got that one wrong lol

Rodent

These are consecutive frames from the video

Rodent

carey

i certainly don't have any problems with it, whether it's right or wrong!
but i think they have it right in this instance.

tony

I fail to see how anyone can definitively get a margin there.

Dead Heat correct imo.

sonny

I always thought ,that close s dead heat is a good result...

Fastmoney

tony said:

I fail to see how anyone can definitively get a margin there.

Dead Heat correct imo.

Not sure how the photo finish picture works but the nose of Harry Thomas looks odd (Rumpelstiltskin).

PS. I was on Harry Thomas.

carey

it does but it's their nostrils
if you click on photo and it enlarges then you can see it better.
most horses have it looking the same.

wa has history as far as wrong decisions go, as rodent well knows, but i can't see a problem with this one myself.

dungy

Nifty Parnham setting up a satelite stable in Melbourne ??? i dont understand why ,,he is basically middle of the road trainer over here with a lot of meat veggie horses and no major owners behind him oh well