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  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    And I’ve got my biggest hangover since 2008...
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    Leclerc just missed out on becoming only the second driver to record their first three career wins in consecutive races.
    Who was the only driver to achieve this feat?
  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    And was robbed of it

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  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    PAUL said:

    Leclerc just missed out on becoming only the second driver to record their first three career wins in consecutive races.
    Who was the only driver to achieve this feat?

    The answer was Damon Hill (at Hungary, Belgium and Italy, 1993, in a Williams-Renault).
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    edited September 2019
    PAUL said:

    Leclerc just missed out on becoming only the second driver to record their first three career wins in consecutive races.
    Who was the only driver to achieve this feat?

    The answer was Damon Hill (at Hungary, Belgium and Italy, 1993, in a Williams-Renault).

    Actually two drivers have already done this before.

    I completely forgot about Mika Hakkinen, mainly because his wins were split over two seasons. His maiden win came in the season finalé at Jerez in 1997 (the same race where Schumi unsuccessfully tried to take Villeneuve out of the race to win the championship). Hakkinen then went on to win the first two races in 1998 (at Melbourne and Interlagos). His first two career wins, on both occasions, Coulthard was given team orders to let Hakkinen through for the win.
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    edited October 2019
    Mercedes will become the first team to win both six consecutive Constructors' championships (wrapped up yesterday with a 1-3 result in Japan) and their drivers to win six consecutive Drivers' championships (only Hamilton or Bottas can now win the title).

    Ferrari have won six consecutive Constructors' championships (1999-2004), but Hakkinen (McLaren) won the Drivers' championship in 1999, before Schumi won the next five.

    Nice recovery drive by Ricciardo yesterday, started 16th, finished 7th (promoted to 6th following Leclerc's two post-race penalties).
  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    Perfection from Renault with their timing of RIC's pit stop, albeit I was screaming at the screen at the time (that he was dropping 4secs a lap on the old mediums).
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    edited October 2019
    PAUL said:

    Nice recovery drive by Ricciardo yesterday, started 16th, finished 7th (promoted to 6th following Leclerc's two post-race penalties).

    All for nothing in the end, Renault have been disqualified from the Japanese GP due to a breach in the sporting regulations regarding driver aids, in particular relating to the "pre-set, automated brake bias system", after a protest from Racing Point.

    Leclerc gets reinstated back to 6th, Gasly moves up to 7th, Perez 8th, Stroll 9th and Kvyat 10th.

    Ricciardo drops from 9th to 12th in the driver's standings.

    REVISED DRIVER'S POINTS
    1 Hamilton 338
    2 Bottas 274
    3 Leclerc 223
    4 Verstappen 212
    5 Vettel 212
    6 Sainz 76
    7 Gasly 75
    8 Albon 64
    9 Perez 37
    10 Norris 35
    11 Kvyat 34
    12 Ricciardo 34
    13 Hulkenberg 34
    14 Raikkonen 31
    15 Stroll 21

    REVISED CONSTRUCTOR'S POINTS
    1 Mercedes 612
    2 Ferrari 435
    3 Red Bull Racing-Honda 323
    4 McLaren-Renault 111
    5 Renault 68
    6 Toro Rosso-Honda 62
    7 Racing Point-Mercedes 58
  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    Interestingly the brake bias system wasn't itself deemed illegal, but were disqualified by the general rule of the driver receiving assistance.
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    Those two safety cars certainly spiced up the last few laps last night.

    First ever podiums for Pierre Gasly and Carlos Sainz Jr (after Hamilton's five second post race penalty). The first Honda powered 1-2 since Spa 1998 (Damon Hill and Ralf Schumacher, Jordan-Mugen Honda). Two Alfas in the top five (Kimi 4th, Giovinazzi 5th). Vettel back to his old tricks again with his teammate (reminiscent of his collision with Webber in Istanbul 2010). Ricciardo consolidating ninth place in the championship by finishing sixth.

    Also, a shout out to Jack Miller, a fifth podium finish this season at Valencia (a record for any Premac Ducati rider, beating Petrucci's four podiums in 2017).
  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    McLaren withdrawn from AUS GP :(
    Staff member tests pos.

    Looking like GP may be called off.
  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Tivers said:

    McLaren withdrawn from AUS GP :(
    Staff member tests pos.

    Looking like GP may be called off.

    Should have happened before the teams even arrived. All organised sport is in immediate danger 

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  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    Officially called off ! :(
  • RIORIO    14,357 posts
    2 teams come from one of the most infected places in the world, and everyone stuck their heads in the sand and ignored the obvious. Either called off 2 weeks ago, or the decision to race it with only those teams that passed testing 2 weeks ago.

    Absolute douche bag of an organisation.

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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    4,537 posts
    The way this shit is going we will all be in lockdown and housebound ffs.
    I hope I get it, CV couldn't hurt that much surely!! :)
  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts

    The way this **** is going we will all be in lockdown and housebound ffs. 

    The countries that are seeing very few new cases implemented these measures. If we take their lead it will save lives.

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  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    edited April 2020
    Some sad news with the announcement that Sir Stirling Moss has passed away, aged 90. He won 16 GPs, finished runner-up in the championship four times (1955-58) and third in the championship three times (1959-61). Many regard him as the best driver to have never won a F1 title.
  • oldhendooldhendo    433 posts
    Yes one of the best, i went to Bathurst to see him team up with Jack Brabham in 1976 and they got shunted from the rear at the start and that ended their race. They came out and did a few laps later in the race.

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  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    edited April 2020
    Just before my time that. There's footage of that incident about halfway through the clip of the start to that race (via YouTube).

    PAUL said:

    ... finished runner-up in the championship four times (1955-58) and third in the championship three times (1959-61) ...

    To put that into some kind of context, to my knowledge, only one other driver has finished in the top three in the championship in seven consecutive seasons and that was Schumacher (2000-06). Hamilton can achieve this feat if he finishes in the top three in the upcoming season. Fangio did finish in the top three in the seven full seasons he raced (1950-51, 1953-57), however he missed the 1952 season.

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  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    Lights are out, and they're away.................(Couple of hours to go).

    This should be a good return to normality.

    The whole field / every team "plays" each other each contest - so no compromised draws.
    Each and every race is a title in it's own right.
    The big teams have had their wings clipped a bit (limit on crew numbers) so could assist closer contest.
    Lack of crowd not a factor - the main noise comes from elsewhere.

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  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    edited July 2020
    Back to normality alright, three races in and three Mercedes wins. It also shows you how good the 2019 Mercedes design still is, when the two Racing Points out qualify the remainder of the 2020 cars in Hungary. And to think, that they will be using this season's cars/chassis again next season, as per the updated regulations.

    DRIVERS' POINTS
    1 Hamilton (4-1-1f) 63pts
    2 Bottas (1-2-3) 58pts
    3 Verstappen (R-3-2) 33pts
    4 Norris (3f-5-13) 26pts
    5 Albon (R-4-5) 22pts
    = Perez (6-6-7) 22pts
    7 Leclerc (2-R-11) 18pts
    = Stroll (R-7-4) 18pts
    9 Sainz (5-9f-9) 15pts
    10 Vettel (10-R-6) 9pts
    11 Ricciardo (R-8-8) 8pts

    Still a minimum of seven races to go.
    August 2 - Silverstone (British GP)
    August 9 - Silverstone (70th Anniversary GP)
    August 16 - Catalunya (Spanish GP)
    August 30 - Spa (Belgian GP)
    September 6 - Monza (Italian GP)
    September 13 - Mugello (Tuscan GP)
    September 27 - Sochi (Russian GP)
  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    On the flipside - there's nothing different there (Merc out front).
    BUT - the midfield has closed right up and providing some brilliant entertainment.
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    edited July 2020
    That's true.
    The midfield battles so far have been entertaining, which hopefully also bodes well for next season. It was good to also see both the Williams making it through to Q2 in Hungary, first time since Monza 2018 (Stroll 10th, Sirotkin 12th). I also can't remember, if ever, when the last time Kimi would have qualified in last place on the grid, based purely on sheer (lack of) pace.
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    PAUL said:

    Still a minimum of seven races to go.
    August 2 - Silverstone (British GP)
    August 9 - Silverstone (70th Anniversary GP)
    August 16 - Catalunya (Spanish GP)
    August 30 - Spa (Belgian GP)
    September 6 - Monza (Italian GP)
    September 13 - Mugello (Tuscan GP)
    September 27 - Sochi (Russian GP)

    Three more races now added to the schedule.
    October 11 - Nürburgring (Eifel GP)
    October 25 - Portimão (Portuguese GP)
    November 1 - Imola (Emilia Romagna GP)

    Will more than likely now finish off the season with some races in Bahrain and Abu Dhabi, after the confirmation that there will be no races in the Americas.
  • TiversTivers    7,585 posts
    What again was a boring race for the most part - especially after everyone took their one pit stop at lap 12 or whatever it was - again became very exciting towards the end as multiple cars front left tyres began exploding.

    A while since I can recall a winner crossing the line with 3 wheels, and great tyre conserving drive by RIC saw him slice through to 4th on the last lap.

    Next weekend should be VERY interesting - same track, but using even softer compound tyres.
  • PAULPAUL    2,576 posts
    That's a first for me, the winner crossing the line with a shredded tyre.

    In 1975, Vittorio Brambilla won the rain shortened Austrian GP. As he crossed the finish line, he took both hands off the steering wheel to celebrate and promptly lost control and crashed into the armco barrier.

    The only other random finish I can recall, was back in the 1993 Italian GP at Monza, when Christian Fittipaldi clipped the back of his teammate, Pierluigi Martini's Minardi, and did a 360° flip across the finish line at about 300km/h.

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