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Belmont Preview, 4th August

West Australian Racing
PerthTurfTalkPerthTurfTalk    2,951 posts
edited August 2018 West Australian Racing

 Race 1 – Flat

I’m a little bit disappointed. A seven race Saturday metro card (which includes a maiden) after a midweek abandonment which can best be described by the technical term: ‘a total cock-up’. The track was deemed safe and fair at 8am when scratching’s were announced. The track was still determined to be fine for racing when the abandonment was made official around 10am, with the weather forecast being the reasoning behind calling it off. I’m no meteorologist, but a quick look at the radar around this time suggested the earlier forecast was going to miss us. As it did. Management themselves said we only need a half hour or so of dry conditions for racing to go ahead. We had exactly 1mm of rain from 9am to 6.20pm. The fact we got to 10am without an abandonment, by that stage it was late enough to see if the weather came and if it did and the track becomes unsafe for jockeys or horses, then abandon immediately. I think all racing participants would have understood this. At the end of the day by 10am all pine poles would have been consumed and horses ready to run.

Now that I’ve once again endeared myself with the hierarchy at Perth Racing, let’s take a brief look at an uninspiring maiden.

Polite Pass looks a standout with William Pike on board from the good draw. Loomed up at Northam a fortnight ago like she was going to win by a couple of lengths, but either ran out of condition or did her best Street Bandit imitation when she realised she was going to be in front of all the other horses. Hopefully for connections sake it was not the latter and with that run under her belt she should be hard to beat here.

Really liked the last few runs of Tortina. While the drop back in distance won’t suit, the good barrier draw will where she should be able to find a nice spot in running. Chris Willis does a good job with the small team he has.

Selections

9 Polite Pass
8 Tortina
7 San Crispino

Suggested Bet: No bet.



Race 2 – Big Wet

I found this a really difficult race to dissect, with all 9 runners some type of hope. Big Caroline is a total swimmer. Her effort behind Count Tomoz Off really showcased that, making the type of flashing run we did not see much of throughout the day. She will be aided by the drop back to 54kg’s here, though barrier 1 may not be a blessing for her. She is a mare who tends to like to wind up into her races, while the Wizard from barrier 1 tends to like to wait for gaps to appear. It is an interesting combination. She has not won a race in the city since 2016 and that was a midweek class 3. Usually I would just about discount her in a 72+, but this is not the strongest 72+ you will come across. The track is currently a Soft6 and if this rating worsens to a Soft7 or higher, I suspect she will be awfully hard to beat. I also think back to her run against Enticing Star three runs back when she ran a quicker last 200m then that super mare. That tell’s a story on it’s own.

The Celt is on the 6-day back-up from a fairly tough trial where he was ridden right out to the line by Alan Kennedy. I’m not a huge fan on the short back-up for sprinters and with the 59.5kg’s think his race might be a few weeks away. Count Tomoz Off was a boom youngster who never quite hit the predicted heights. Appeared to love the wet weather at his most recent appearance and I would expect to see similarly aggressive tactics here. Isn’t the sharpest beginner however, so will want the likes of The Celt to not have a desperation to hold the front.

One Short has been up since January and is a model of consistency, while Get Over It is a really interesting runner for the Jim Taylor yard. I dare say if there is any type of confidence within the camp then the $9 quote currently on offer won’t hang around. Bombs Away is a horse who can mix his form and is not impossible at around the $30 quote. A good competitive race that I will be happy staying out of.

Selections

8 Count Tomoz Off
7 Big Caroline
5 Bombs Away

Suggested Bet: No bet.



Race 3 – Heave Ho

What a fitting tip this will be on the day before we finally get to honour Ben Allan, with the inaugural naming of the Glendinning-Allan medal. All that whacking away at your keyboards on various social media forums finally paid off Freo fans, well done!!

With a 6 out of 10 ride from Andrew Castle and a reasonably fair Belmont track, Freo should have one win this weekend. Coming off a 7-week break, over the mile on a rain affected track, this son of Izmir had every right to put in ‘just a run’. His effort however was huge behind Battle Torque who is race fit and in career best form. He should strip a lot fitter for that run and if he can get a reasonable cart up into the race from last (where he should be ridden), he should be reeling off a last sectional capable of knocking past this lost.

Fair Sonari looks the biggest danger, with a lot of that down to racing pattern. Has raced extremely well in top three-year-old company in recent weeks and will appreciate the step up to the mile here. Will go forward from the gate and if there appears to be any type of on speed bias in the first couple of events, this is probably the way to go at around $7 each way.

Massachusetts is an interesting runner. Lindsey Smith has been loath to push this Stratum mare out beyond 1400m, but when looking at her overall record it is hard to see why. She has raced at 1400m on 5 occasions for 2 wins and a further placing. Comparing this to her overall record off 33 starts for 4 wins and 12 further placings, it shows that perhaps she needs the ground. It’ll be really interesting to see how she goes at her first attempt at the mile. Could be rattling late.

Happy suggesting a bet on Freo, but I would be wanting a tick over the $3 mark to come at a backmarker on a rain affected track. Be open to the late switch to Fair Sonari if the track dictates.

Selections

2 Freo
1 Fair Sonari
6 Massachusetts

Suggested Bet: 50 wins Freo (2).



Race 4 – Miller’s Move

Listening to the Simon Miller camp during the week, it sounds as though Caipirinha will be ridden cold, with the possibility of extending out to the 1400-1600m as her campaign progresses. Regardless of the tactics, she already presented as the lay of the day with the 59kgs. The often well supported Nicconi mare has never carried weight with success and looking at her results vs. her consistent SP’s, you’d have to suggest she is a little over rated by punters/connections.

I was hoping we would see her go up a silly quote, but unfortunately, I think the corporate’s have got it spot on here with Super Maxi your $2.40 favourite. He blitzed his rivals on his state debut, before going down valiantly to the very smart Ambiente, beating home Fabergino in the process. From barrier 1, he should be able to hold the front but with the likely pace from More Aces, It’s It and if I have read it wrong, Caipirinha, he also has the option to hand up and take a trail. He has good wet track form and the 54kg’s looks a luxury. Looks the best bet of the day.

Yeah Dardy was huge first up when chasing hard behind Undisclosed and Floyd. Was a real eye-catcher that race. Does stand to go up about 15 rating’s points if successful here, but from the draw, with the suspected tempo of this event, is not without a chance.

A nice little sprint.

Selections

6 Super Maxi
8 Yeah Dardy
4 Flying Time

Suggested Bet: 100 wins Super Maxi (6).



Race 5 – No Fire All Rain

Fire And Rain looks hard to tip against in this 1000m scamper. Was edged out in a battle royale down the straight against Essential Spice, when conceding that filly 5.5kgs. Drops to the luxury weight of 54kg’s here. I did worry about these new three-year old’s racing in open company, but after watching Kiss The Breeze last week (who looked to be bolting), my concerns are mostly alleviated. Fire And Rain also has the luxury of being a horse who simply needs to run time out in front over the 1000m. With the likes of Undisclosed, League Of Nations & Sharpbob engaged, this Oratorio colt will want a crisp beginning to have it his own way out in front.

Epic Grey looks the biggest danger after a nice trial 6 days ago. Does have to contend with the big weight and sticky gate and every speed map I come up with ends with him leading the 3 wide line. I see it hard for him to handle the weight and tougher run while conceding Fire And Rain 5.5kgs.

The $3.30 on offer for Fire And Rain looks fairly good shopping for a horse who should make all of his own luck.

Selections

7 Fire And Rain
1 Epic Grey
2 I Am Incredible

Suggested Bet: 100 wins Fire And Rain (7).



Race 6 – Gangemi’s Spirit

I often allude to the success the Gangemi’s have with their Eastern State’s purchases and this Bel Esprit gelding profiles to be another one on that production line. I’m not a ‘follow the money’ style punter, but the early move when markets opened on Thursday afternoon suggested somebody was keen to be on board Crystal Spirit ($4 to $2.60). Her form over East looks more than adequate for a race of this nature.

Reykjavik is absolutely flying but is cruelled by a barrier draw. I find it hard to place him in this speed map, with going back to last or sitting wide the two likely outcomes. I am unsure if he can win from either of those two spots. One to watch ‘next start’.

Friar Away & Glimmer Girl look to round out the chances in a race lacking a great deal of depth.

Selections

6 Crystal Spirit
8 Glimmer Girl
4 Reykjavik

Suggested Bet: No bet.



Race 7 – The End

I don’t think I have ever been less excited for a Belmont race card. After tipping an array of value last week, I have struggled to find a suggested bet above $3.30 and it doesn’t get much better in the last.

The more I look at the final event of the day, the more I convince myself that Prying Tom is a good thing. His run’s this campaign have been nothing short of massive and this is an easier assignment than his most recent outing when defeating the very smart Red Army and No Say In It after being held up at a crucial stage in the straight. Red Army has clearly franked that form.

First and second up he flashed on unsuitable leader bias tracks in absolute eye catchers over the 1400m. He then stepped up to 2000m from the 1400m when racing closer to the speed and boxing on admirably in a race run at a farcical speed. The fitness he derived from that run was on show next start, when his usual sit and sprint tactics were employed, when beating the aforementioned horses. I don’t think the extra 2kg’s is a major worry and if he holds that form, he will be extremely hard to hold out over the final 200m.

Paddy’s Shadow is the interesting runner here after dropping out of the listed three-year-old staying events. Had zero luck on both occasions and will appreciate the good barrier draw and appointment of the in form Shaun O’Donnell. After Come Play With Me and State Prosecutor, I really question if those three year old events had any real class, in particular any real staying class. It is a bit of guess work with her.

Jazari has opened up at $16 a place. While I struggle to see him winning, this looks the ‘value’ in the race for an honest stayer on the minimum. Reef Keeper will be better for the run, though does appear Prying Tom’s main danger.

Prying Tom is currently $4. With the three-year olds and lightly weighted Lindsey Smith pair in the event (Reef Keeper & Grand Cadeau) all likely to come in for some reasonable support, I suggest we will see a price closer to the $6 mark for Tommy closer to jump.

Selections

2 Prying Tom
7 Reef Keeper
10 Jazari

Suggested Bet: 80 wins Prying Tom (2).  

Comments

  • pikerpiker    353 posts
    No need for ‘The Other Prrview’
    My ‘brother’ above and seem to agree on 95% of the program tomorrow.
    But on R/4 I have to put in Mr Motown; assuming it is v wet, the barrier should not make such a big difference. As long as he is up near the front (not 3 wide!) he will fight hard.
    In R5, I thought the Fire horse was a bit young; so I’m on Epic Grey and the Inccredible horse ( the latter may well be a champ in the mud.
    In R/6 I have to throw in Wild Front and Friar Away as well as the fave ( the former an amazing maiden win last start).
    If the rain comes, it should be a similar show to that of 2weeks ago.
    But if it isn’t wet, all the tips (guesses) change!
    But it looks like red weather too me; plus beef!
    Good luck all!
  • GrayGray    3,987 posts
    cancelled I am hearing
  • chocchoc    764 posts
    edited August 2018
    Back to the pine pole consumption.
    They’re off again :((
  • GrayGray    3,987 posts
    WTF what a shocker
  • GrayGray    3,987 posts
    Broome fields look the same as Belmonts anyway LOL
  • hashhash    6,486 posts
    what is the difference in a meeting being cancelled and abandonded 
  • TheDivaTheDiva    11,865 posts
    Not sure what you expect them to do about the rain that’s fallen?

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  • ChelseaChelsea    1,339 posts
    Races now on tomorrow
  • jumjum    2,660 posts
    TheDiva said:

    Not sure what you expect them to do about the rain that’s fallen?



    Turf Club has been running for 100 years, I would expect them to have a racetrack that can handle 60mm of water over 3 days.

    Fuuuck me Hong Kong can take 400mm in a day and still race.

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  • bradybrady    1,303 posts
    Parking going to be chaos
    Tomorrow with the Derby on also

  • FlandersFlanders    337 posts
    jum said:

    TheDiva said:

    Not sure what you expect them to do about the rain that’s fallen?



    Turf Club has been running for 100 years, I would expect them to have a racetrack that can handle 60mm of water over 3 days.

    Fuuuck me Hong Kong can take 400mm in a day and still race.


    Maybe Hong Kong spends a lot more money on having their track overhauled/renovated on a much more frequent basis. And maybe their track isn't raced on consistently every Saturday and Wednesday for weeks on end. And maybe the temperature in Hong Kong is consistently much higher than it is in Perth throughout those same times of heavy rain. Its chalk and cheese.
    Belmont gets fkn hammered and we simply can't expect it to be able to cope. The load needs to be spread out much more to avoid situations like this week... have some metro Sat or midweek meets at northam or pinjarra. Or even at Ascot!
    Other than that, it would be the venue it has been renowned for if the club would open the cheque book and let the curators give it the overhaul it drastically needs.
    Its easy to look at the "now" and bag the track staff but they've been doing a massive job with what they have to work with. Blinkers off guys

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  • psychopsycho    268 posts
    Flanders said:

    jum said:

    TheDiva said:

    Not sure what you expect them to do about the rain that’s fallen?



    Turf Club has been running for 100 years, I would expect them to have a racetrack that can handle 60mm of water over 3 days.

    Fuuuck me Hong Kong can take 400mm in a day and still race.


    Maybe Hong Kong spends a lot more money on having their track overhauled/renovated on a much more frequent basis. And maybe their track isn't raced on consistently every Saturday and Wednesday for weeks on end. And maybe the temperature in Hong Kong is consistently much higher than it is in Perth throughout those same times of heavy rain. Its chalk and cheese.
    Belmont gets fkn hammered and we simply can't expect it to be able to cope. The load needs to be spread out much more to avoid situations like this week... have some metro Sat or midweek meets at northam or pinjarra. Or even at Ascot!
    Other than that, it would be the venue it has been renowned for if the club would open the cheque book and let the curators give it the overhaul it drastically needs.
    Its easy to look at the "now" and bag the track staff but they've been doing a massive job with what they have to work with. Blinkers off guys
    Flanders for post of the week  =D> This track gets hammered week in and week out without a break so you cannot expect all meetings to go ahead during a wet period. The odd meeting to be moved from the city so Belmont can have a break is probably one of the better ideas. Short of that only a complete track update will work, for now let's all get over it and give Chris Nation the plaudits he deserves, after all we could get that other dill back curating and lose meetings in summer because the grass was poisoned instead of fertilised

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,267 posts
    Agreed in the fact that they need metro meetings spread to Pinjarra and Northam both midweek and Saturday. Only solution.
  • GrayGray    3,987 posts
    They could race at Lark Hill LOL

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  • jumjum    2,660 posts
    Flanders said:

    jum said:

    TheDiva said:

    Not sure what you expect them to do about the rain that’s fallen?



    Turf Club has been running for 100 years, I would expect them to have a racetrack that can handle 60mm of water over 3 days.

    Fuuuck me Hong Kong can take 400mm in a day and still race.


    Maybe Hong Kong spends a lot more money on having their track overhauled/renovated on a much more frequent basis. And maybe their track isn't raced on consistently every Saturday and Wednesday for weeks on end. And maybe the temperature in Hong Kong is consistently much higher than it is in Perth throughout those same times of heavy rain. Its chalk and cheese.
    Belmont gets fkn hammered and we simply can't expect it to be able to cope. The load needs to be spread out much more to avoid situations like this week... have some metro Sat or midweek meets at northam or pinjarra. Or even at Ascot!
    Other than that, it would be the venue it has been renowned for if the club would open the cheque book and let the curators give it the overhaul it drastically needs.
    Its easy to look at the "now" and bag the track staff but they've been doing a massive job with what they have to work with. Blinkers off guys



    Belmont gets Hammered
    :))  Its had 17 race meetings on it this year. A fair stretch from hammered.

    And on the Curator. I haven't bagged him once. You can only Fuuuck with the Dickk you got.

    It is  Perth Racing which formerly went under the Guise of WATC that I have the problem with.

    They are a Fuckenn Disgrace. they now have 580K to pump back into the track if they so decide.

  • TheDivaTheDiva    11,865 posts
    Not their money jum
  • RodentRodent    5,047 posts
    Remember Belmont can race with the rail out 20m so it's effectively 2 tracks.
  • laughinglaughing    6 posts
    Hmmm... one wonders if the fact the derby is on tomorrow helped decide to postpone the race a day? ????
  • super.imposesuper.impose    43 posts
    Just taken my sunglasses off after driving home from Garden City shops. Another race meeting called off too early this week? Been no rain at mine since early. Doesn't the drainage do its job? I'll be at derby tomorrow so no racing for me
  • RIORIO    14,139 posts
    hash said:

    what is the difference in a meeting being cancelled and abandonded 



    When they are abandoned or cancelled, they aren't re-reun. So no difference
    When they are postponed, they are generally re-scheduled.

    This meeting should have always been on Sunday anyway. 10am start to finish at 2pm

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  • psychopsycho    268 posts

    Just taken my sunglasses off after driving home from Garden City shops. Another race meeting called off too early this week? Been no rain at mine since early. Doesn't the drainage do its job? I'll be at derby tomorrow so no racing for me

    It was called off at around 7.45, cannot call it off any later than that because then there would be another thread on why they called it off too late
  • TheDivaTheDiva    11,865 posts
    Traffic will be carnage tomorrow
  • DaggerVeeDaggerVee    35 posts
    They will be called off on Sunday.
  • jumjum    2,660 posts
    DaggerVee said:

    They will be called off on Sunday.

    Did Perth get 6mm of rain today
    :D

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  • tonytony    1,849 posts
    edited August 2018
    Just announced that the track has not improved today and tomorrow is off.


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  • detonatordetonator    1,881 posts
    Chris Nation on the radio this morning said the water was pooling at the winning post and the at the 1300. Today's weather conditions were never going to be conducive to the track drying. So if it is called off tomorrow I am not surprised.
    Chris also said to get Belmont up to scratch, he needs about 4 years.
    He also said Ascot was under water today.
  • RIORIO    14,139 posts
    Were was that announce @tony Nt on CRIS, not on TAB!?!?!?

    Chris has a massive battle on his hands.If we still have 2 city tracks in 4 years then IMO we will be on struggle street

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,267 posts
    edited August 2018
    Racing last saturday everyone was yarning how good the track was.The radio interview on wed said track was all good but weather forecast was the prob. now it needs 4years.
    it doesn't seem to drain like it used too.

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  • GaryHGaryH    1,008 posts
    RIO said:

    Were was that announce @tony Nt on CRIS, not on TAB!?!?!?

    Twitter mate.  I know, old people need ALL the social feeds on a desktop shortcut :D

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    5,779 posts
    edited August 2018
    tony said:

    Just announced that the track has not improved today and tomorrow is off.


    Great news for those that can now party on at the awards night tonight. <:-P <:-P

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