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Ascot Preview, 19th January

West Australian Racing
PerthTurfTalkPerthTurfTalk    2,951 posts

Race 1 - Hot And Humid

We’ll be copping a scorcher on Saturday with 37 degrees, the early forecast. Confident we can have a hot start to the day, with Wild Gust being the best bet on the program.

This daughter of Pitleco should cap off a great story of perseverance with what appeared to be a seemingly talentless galloper. Failed to show any real promise throughout the first 13 starts of her career before looking like an absolute world beater at her two trials to begin this preparation. In those trials, it appeared as though they were attempting to teach her to settle in her races, which made the aggressive move from the awkward alley first up, somewhat surprising. She was reunited with Mitchell Pateman (who rode her in both trials) when narrowly defeated by the well regarded and related Devoted Star. The third horse was over 5 lengths further back. In a race looking devoid of a stack of top end speed, they will certainly utilise the good draw and settle in the first four in running, with leading an option. I’d like to see her ridden with cover, but either way it shouldn’t matter.

True Image is clearly the main danger, recent trial was good without being great (the form from the trial is not strong). The 1100m is likely to be a bit short for her after both runs in her debut campaign were over 1300m. The lure of the $30,000 maiden would have been enough to see them roll the dice. She will run the quickest final sectionals, but will likely give Wild Gust too much of a head start.

If a horse ever deserved to win a race it’d be No Mean Feet. 5 seconds from 6 career starts over a three and a half year period. Big chance she runs second again.

Wild Gust is around the $5 mark. The each way aspect appears a no-brainer at around $2 a place, but I do believe she just wins this.

Selections

Wild Gust
No Mean Feet
True Image
Dream Alliance

Suggested Bet: 50 wins and 50 places Wild Gust (11).

 

Race 2 - Finally Suitable

Final Hearing is one of the lesser lights of the Bob Peters three year old brigade who the rest of us would kill to have in our armoury. In his four career starts he’s faced reasonable to moderate opposition twice for two dominant wins and faced the top liners twice for two admirable efforts. The drop back to a thin looking three year old event looks spot on and Pike may even be able to utilise the gate in a slowly run event and have him closer in the run. Ran last in a recent trial, but he was not knocked about.

Lacevinsky should be able to cross and lead from the wide alley in a race which does look to have a dearth of speed. Simon Miller is a master of the freshen up and it would be no surprise to see this Playing God gelding lead from start to finish. The track does tend to play a little bit on pace when back to the true position for the first time in a couple of weeks.

Kakadu has had an unlucky campaign and is a proven weight carrier in the past. This is the easiest assignment he has encountered this time in and with the blinkers going on should be able to settle closer to the speed.

The luckless Kiss The Breeze and Caerhelan round out the chances.

Final Hearing ($2.80) is the obvious on top selection, but looking at the early markets Kakadu ($13 / 4) clearly represents the betting value. I’m a value man so will punt that way but tip the other.

Selections

Final Hearing
Kakadu
Lacevinsky
Caerhelan

Suggested Bet: 10 wins and 40 places Kakadu (1).

 

Race 3 - Royalty

Royal Statue looks to have a mortgage on the third event. While only dropping from a 70+ to a 66+, the class drop in terms of quality of opposition is huge. The weight shouldn’t be an issue and only bad luck from the inside draw should be able to stop him. Was knocked over last time out when looking like the winner, but managed to pick himself up and sprint again. Can probably be held up half the straight but still get there.

Really keen on Chasing Chaos running a big race here. Track statistics of 11 unplaced runs at Ascot don’t exactly fill you with confidence, but he has run some nice races here. This is a race which looks devoid of any real speed and he should be able to roll along with only 51.5kg’s on his back. Has been really well looked after by the handicapper since his last stint in town (5 races in the country for a win and two seconds and hasn’t gone up in metro ratings). The horse flies for Shelby Colgate and you’d expect she will be trying to steal it on the bend. If there is a horse stopping on top of Royal Statue, then this should be the runner to steal it.

Let’s Twist races outside of Chasing Chaos and looks a clear third elect.

Very similar to the previous event, Royal Statue will be the on top selection but the $1.40 on offer compared to the $16 / $3.40 for Chasing Chaos as an each way proposition, makes the latter an easy betting decision.

Selections

Royal Statue
Chasing Chaos
Let’s Twist
Discoville

Suggested Bet: 15 wins and 65 places Chasing Chaos (8).

 

Race 4 - Third Time’s A Charm

Magical Charm is about as popular with punters as Bernard Tomic with the Australian public, but we’ll give her one final chance here. In a really weak staying event, she does look well placed to take a sit in the first 4 to 6 in running and run a final 600m capable of winning this. While it is a 13 horse field, you can comfortably put a line through 6 or 7 of them.

Watch Me Ney Ney and Sentimental Friend were near identical runs at their most recent outings alongside each other and both switch from well credentialled seniors to promising apprentices. It’ll be interesting to see if they improve with the weight relief.

Crystal Valley is flying at the moment and continues to be luckless. Likely ends up three back the fence from barrier 1 at her first effort past 1800m. Just because they hit the line with gusto over shorter journeys does not mean she’ll make a stayer, so the jury is out on if she will stay. She’ll also need some luck from the inside hole. Is the form runner of the event.

For the value players out there, both Upward Others and Hay Magic have been racing without luck. Both are around the $20 mark and both are capable of causing an upset in a race of this nature. Upward Others has previously been placed behind listed winners Mississippi Delta and At The Ready over this journey. Either would start $1.20 here.

Selections

Magical Charm
Upward Others
Hay Magic
Crystal Valley

Suggested Bet: No bet.

 

Race 5 - Laufing All The Way To The Bank

In a race lacking any real quality, I am happy looking further afield and putting Laufey on top. The ‘Liz Strempel’ factor is a major reason behind this decision with her ability to get the best out of talented, but troubled animals. After beating Abdicator and Aconite in a maiden when under the tutelage of Grant & Alana Williams, the future appeared bright for this son of Frost Giant, but he failed to find his best. Had the best part of a year off the circuit before resuming with an eye catcher on an extremely bias Pinjarra Park. The run reminded me of Let’s Twist effort before saluting in a very similar class event to this. Came from a different postcode to run fifth in a quartet dominated by those who settle in the first half a dozen. Ran the 3rd quickest last 200m of the day in a race where they burned along early. A really high rated run, made even better considering how wide Julien Kokotajlo ended up. He saw a fair bit of real estate that day.

From the better draw with the likes of Rising Sea, Stratocreed, Avidus and Song Of Vincent all likely to be ridden aggressively, he can finish over the top of them.

Friarandice looks well placed from the gate, but $3.60 about a horse who just beat Chayya (who also had the 59kg’s) at Albany is a really thin price. Stratocreed is arguably going better than most of these but will find it really difficult from the awkward alley. Jade is riding in terrific fashion and I think she will need to find cover near the speed to win, which is not an impossibility.

Rising Sea is the big class dropper while Western King has been racing without luck. A really even affair where all 10 runners have winning claims.

Laufey opened at $61, which unfortunately didn’t last long. Anything approaching the double figure mark would be good each way shopping, so at around the $25 quote currently, I am really happy hopping in each way. Along with Wild Gust, looks the best value bet of the day.

Selections

Laufey
Rising Sea
Western King
Stratocreed

Suggested Bet: 30 wins and 40 places Laufey (8).

 

Race 6 - Misty’s Metal

We’ll find out a lot more about Misty Metal after she does battle with this sharp field of sprinters from the awkward alley. While her last win was completely dominant, it was more of a glorified trial after she found the rail with ease. She should not be able to cross and rail them up here with Belter drawn underneath her. If the tactics on Belter are to take a sit on her, then the race is all over and we’ll see a carbon copy of Perth Cup day.

The Celt looks the main danger and the appointment of William Pike from the good draw makes him the on top selection. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong for Randy Tan last time out, but he was still sharp enough to run on into second placing. Pike should have him closer to the speed form the good draw (he will have designs on holding Misty Metal’s back if she sits outside the speed) and from there the strength of The Wizard sees him go very close. The 1100m suits.

Look for Profit Street to run on into a top four finish. His last four efforts don’t read all that sharply on paper but he has encountered traffic issues and slowly run races all campaign. Ran the quickest last 200m and 400m of the entire day at his most recent outing. Can’t see him catching the horses settling closer to the speed with his usual tardy get away, but will run another nice race. Isn’t far from a win.

Big watch on First Among Equals. Not entirely certain why a 102 rated sprinter is returning to WA. You’d suspect there’d be better options over East.

Selections

The Celt
Misty Metal
Profit Street
Belter

Suggested Bet: 50 wins The Celt (6).

 

Race 7 - Showtime

Fontainebleau should be able to dictate in this 78+ rated event. Only Fathoms Of Gold, who is racing first up over 1800m or Miracle Man, who is drawn to get the sit, would have any thoughts of leading this event. She comes out of the fillies and mares features races where she has traditionally done her best racing. Has not performed quite as admirably against the lads.

Showcase drops out of the same events as Fontainebleau in what was a luckless campaign throughout the fillies and mares series. William Pike goes back on and she draws a gate in a race without a huge amount of speed and can be within 3 or 4 lengths of them. She’ll be really hard to hold out late.

Reveille has been luckless all campaign and looks well placed here. Is a 74 rater in a 78+ event, which I never like, but should have won at least one more this campaign which would put her on that rating anyway. After Celebrity Dream, I really do think the fillies and mares events lacked any real depth and do think the form from the 72+ rated events she was competing in, is far superior.

Surely Double Digit doesn’t win again, while we’ll have a big watch on Prying Tom. Three starts ago ran 5th over this distance at WFA. The four horses who beat him home - Arcadia Queen, Galaxy Star, Material Man & Gatting would all be $1.10 here. Repeats that and wins.

Think the winner comes from Showcase and Reveille. The $8.50 Reveille looks the value play, but I do have a lean the other way. I’ll leave it up to you.

Selections

Showcase
Reveille
Miracle Man
Fontainebleau

Suggested Bet: No bet.

 

Race 8 - Return Of The Mik

All eyes will be on the long awaited comeback of the talented Mikimoto. Off the track for 427 days, you’d expect the main aim of this event would be to get through unscathed and hit the line well. This does look like a race where we will see a three wide line and she does possess some early speed, so the option to ride her for a midfield spot will be there. It’ll be an interesting watch in the desire for success vs. safety.

Double Jeopardy just about picks himself here. Backed off the map when a late scratching a month ago, before a similar weight of money came in an unlucky third behind Disruptive a fortnight ago. Sat four deep for the majority of the journey but kept coming to the line. Is drawn to sit in the first four or at worst six in running here and when you see that weight of money coming from the form stable of WA, you know a horse is low flying.

Alpha Sky was one of 5 or 6 extremely unlucky runners in that same event. Look for him to run a bold race here and flash late. May look to settle a little closer to the speed with the addition of the blinkers.

Along with Alpha Sky, Star Glitter and Tycoon Legend were the most noticeably unlucky runners in the race won by Disruptive. Tycoon Legend looked to be absolutely bolting and it is hard to argue that he would have won that race if getting out at any stage over the final 200m. Before that he was the run of the day on a midweek track favouring the front runners, when flooding home behind De Andes. Has always been a horse that has promised the world and looks to be really running for Jerry Noske. Has opened up at $51 and you won’t see many better $50 chances.

Really do think this is Double Jeopardy’s race to lose, but there is a stack of value around with Alpha Sky ($10) and Tycoon Legend ($51) both great each way prices. Mikimoto does have the potential to be just too good. Great race to end the day

Selections

Double Jeopardy
Alpha Sky
Mikimoto
Tycoon Legend

Suggested Bet: 50 wins Double Jeopardy (6).
  
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Comments

  • jumjum    2,467 posts
    edited January 17
    Best bet on the program and you go eachway @ $5 :-??
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    8,243 posts
    edited January 17
    Will be curious to see how First Among Equals goes, he's a quality horse and form in Melbourne was better than reasonable, one of his good runs was finishing 1.5 length sixth to Ball Of Muscle when 100/1.
    Not a cracker for him early and will be interested to see if any support - think will either run very well or be a shocker. On his Melbourne form would be right up to it despite the big impost.

    Profit Street - had a gutful of him - just gets too far back - but am a sucker for punishment - will back him the place again and suffer the consequences.
    The "enforcer" is riding, and he might just be the hoop to hustle and bustle him and get him going. 100% last chance to run a drum.
  • jumjum    2,467 posts
    Now a Twilight meeting with the first on at 2;43 and the last on at 7pm

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  • SKIDSSKIDS    713 posts
    2 bets at Ascot for me today;

    Just Act Natural to upset a very impressive Misty Metal in the 6th. 9/3/FD/FD qaurtet.

    Star Glitter in the last, it's time.  5/4, 6, 7/FD trifecta.


    :-c
  • spinkingspinking    1,954 posts
    This and Pikers contributans well worth reading . Keep up the good work both of you , and others posting there thoughts. Always good to read other angles any more tips for today people
  • spinkingspinking    1,954 posts
    Contributions shoul be
  • ChelseaChelsea    1,315 posts
    Tycoon Legend in the last should have won last start on at $51
  • hashhash    6,251 posts
    i'll chime in with my thoughts.... if they happen to win or place at odds i'll come back and edit my post to say they were tips not thoughts  :P

    R6 Gee Boss

    R7 Prying Tom, the horse someone on here claimed was going to beat Gatting at their next clash (good formlines)

    R8 already been well documented but i'm also on the the Irish trainers horse (would love to see him bookend the programme) 
  • JellJell    899 posts
    R1 - Moonda Miss worth a tiny each way at cricket score odds, off the back of a nice trial. Kicked back strong after being challenged.

    R2 - Small win bets on two here. Kakadu blinkers go on and also Approach first start after loads of trials, gaped the field nicely at recent trial win.

    R3 - Upwards Others is my only large bet for the day. Took 21/5 and just seen it's in to 11/3.4. Like everyone knows, he's had zero luck basically every start this prep and coped huge amounts of interference last start when looking like letting down. I think today he settles midfield with cover and can get clear running for home, down the outside.

    R6 - I'll echo Skids here, Just Act Natural is good value. He's never won a black type but more than capable and fires first up. Also his recent trial win was very impressive.

    R7 - Like a lot of others I'm banking on Prying Tom to repeat a similar effort to his KT run, if that happens he just wins.

  • troopertrooper    681 posts
    Met the husband once of the trainer of No Mean Feet. Told me the issues etc the horse has but also the ability. Was a very nice bloke and think just the 1 in work from memory. Watching that horse accelerate top of the straight was happy for those guys. Good win well deserved

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  • RIORIO    13,914 posts
    The ride on Stratocreed. If that is how a 3kg claimer uses a whip and rides a horse to the line they may as well give her a 20kg claim...Farkking waste of time

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    8,243 posts
    edited January 19
    Poor 'ole Profit Street got to third and couldn't hold it.
    First Among Equals - an interesting run - think keep following him. Definetly not a gut buster today. Will improve on that run.
  • TheSwooperTheSwooper    1,500 posts
    Well that was a weak effort by  DJ. Not sure why they never rode it from the front. They took all bad luck out of the race for Alpha by going forward. Tough win.

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  • JellJell    899 posts
    Another blinkers first time winner and Tycoon Legend again massively boxed in.

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  • jumjum    2,467 posts
    Willy knows how to get them $1.40 pops rolled by keeping the on the fence...………..
    Surely in the first 600m of that race he can get in the one wide line. 
    It is amazing how many times it actually happens.

     

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    8,243 posts
    edited January 19
    If ever wanted to lay a horse in the run..that was it. Never ever going to win, think had to ride it for luck just to run a place.
    For a $1.40 chance you'd expect a bit better. Marvellous in the game just how many of them get rolled.
  • GaryHGaryH    988 posts
    RIO said:

    The ride on Stratocreed. If that is how a 3kg claimer uses a whip and rides a horse to the line they may as well give her a 20kg claim...Farkking waste of time

    Bit harsh @RIO?  Did a bit to get the lead, and looked like the 1500 was a bit much (last run got a bit of cover off a fast pace).  Senior rider may have been able to lift it to try and keep third.  BUT wouldn't say that with any confidence.  

    As for the riding a whip action.....yes, I've not seen an apprentice for a while that I would say has a strong confident action.  And it's not like they get any better of late.  Is there such a thing as a whip lanyard in racing?  Most of these kids CAN'T change hands, so why not give them the confidense of not being able to drop the whip, so they can concentrate on one thing at a time!

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  • spinkingspinking    1,954 posts
    Lacky band Gary there is your lanyard
  • hashhash    6,251 posts
    GaryH said:

    RIO said:

    The ride on Stratocreed. If that is how a 3kg claimer uses a whip and rides a horse to the line they may as well give her a 20kg claim...Farkking waste of time

    Bit harsh @RIO?  Did a bit to get the lead, and looked like the 1500 was a bit much (last run got a bit of cover off a fast pace).  Senior rider may have been able to lift it to try and keep third.  BUT wouldn't say that with any confidence.  

    As for the riding a whip action.....yes, I've not seen an apprentice for a while that I would say has a strong confident action.  
    take a look at some of Emma Stent's rides and how she can hit them in the crucial stages, one of few she is 
  • thefalconthefalcon    15,682 posts
    did you cop the whip action of simone alteri..like a bloody windmill.
    last race on thurs....I think.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    15,682 posts
    ^^ last race fri 18th...

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  • JellJell    899 posts
    I certainly did falc and I love her for it. I was on her mount for 50x100 :x

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  • hashhash    6,251 posts
    @GaryH Renae Forest’s ride on Boomnbust in race 6 today, almost Pike like, pulls the stick hits it for half the length of the straight and puts the stick away when it counts and goes hands and heels right before the line to get the horses head down ^:)^
  • chocchoc    747 posts
    You know a thread has gone completely & irretrievably off the rails when Renee Forrest is getting compared to William Pike.

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    5,644 posts
    Agree particularly when pikes are in the sea not the forrest  ;))
  • jumjum    2,467 posts
    choc said:

    You know a thread has gone completely & irretrievably off the rails when Renee Forrest is getting compared to William Pike.



    Did you watch Pikes ride on Royal Statue on Saturday $1.40 :-& :-&  :-&  And chooses to stay on the rail when for the first 600m of that race he could  got in the 1 wide line.

    And I am not speaking through my Kick either.

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  • chocchoc    747 posts
    jum said:

    choc said:

    You know a thread has gone completely & irretrievably off the rails when Renee Forrest is getting compared to William Pike.



    Did you watch Pikes ride on Royal Statue on Saturday $1.40 :-& :-&  :-&  And chooses to stay on the rail when for the first 600m of that race he could  got in the 1 wide line.

    And I am not speaking through my Kick either.



    Fark you’re absolutely right.
    Bob should just cut William loose immediately and put Renee on.
    Think about all the Black Type he’s potentially throwing away!
    =;
  • hashhash    6,251 posts
    comedian.... and probably hasn't bothered to watch the race i'm referring to no doubt 

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  • RIORIO    13,914 posts
    @GaryH yeah it was a bit harsh...straight after the race.....And that is why they are 3kg claimers.

    We all know we are going through a period of not too many superstars coming through the apprentice ranks. Not to say they wont develop, but they are just not showing it yet.

    And having being spoiled in the past decade with a few natural ones going through and sitting on them well from the start, we sometimes forget that it takes a few years to do that job well....

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  • runyonrunyon    521 posts
    edited January 22
    hash said:

    @GaryH Renae Forest’s ride on Boomnbust in race 6 today, almost Pike like, pulls the stick hits it for half the length of the straight and puts the stick away when it counts and goes hands and heels right before the line to get the horses head down ^:)^ M

    Means bugger all but if you had $10 a win on their last 30 rides, I know who I would have preferred to have had my money on.
    ;)
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