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  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    So now I have to subscribe to this fruit loop to read his crap? 8-} =;

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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    3,432 posts
    Struggling for a buck no doubt.

    I havent read the article but i watched that race and didnt see anything untoward really? 1100 @ doomben, 61kgs and drew sticky i think unders at 1.70...probably wound it out to reel in some victims.

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  • tonytony    1,965 posts
    He expects people to pay $200 per year to read his carry on. Got to be joking
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    edited September 16

     I havent read the article but i watched that race and didnt see anything untoward really? 1100 @ doomben, 61kgs and drew sticky i think unders at 1.70...probably wound it out to reel in some victims.

    Trainer Vandyke had about a 50% win strike rate..Unrealistic. On Saturday the QTF sent three burly representatives to his stables to observe all activities from dawn until race time and including following horse floats to the tracks for obvious reasons. 

    Vandyck had six starters including Alligator who he already has an interesting history with. None of Vandyck's runners won and Alligator drifted alarmingly and despite being unbeaten at previous first up starts  was also convincingly beaten.
  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    edited September 17
    That's a lot of muckraking and not a lot of substance to what are essentially veiled allegations. 

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    edited September 17
    Did you read the article Kramer? He seemed to back it up as he does on most reports.

    No one on here seems to believe anything PP reports. Perhaps you believe the $200 fee is a contribution for future legal fees but I don't see a throng of people suing his butt after articles are written about them. 


  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    No. I sure didn't. You're actually admitting to being fleeced by this bloke? Oh dear L-)
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    edited September 17
    Kramer judged on that observation you make a very poor prosecutor. I have not paid for a subscription but did read the article the day before the switch to payment only. As much as I found his articles interesting reading my money would be better spent on interesting and informative reading @ The Spectator Magazine... Currently  getting great value with a three months free subscription. Thanks Rowan.

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    I'm not the one doing the prosecuting or persecuting here. And as for the subscriber-only content,  It was YOU that posted the link with the paywall-so you know damn well no one other than yourself read that rubbish....a glance at the replies in the thread would've told you that. 
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    Kramer I have already stated that I posted the link when the content could still be viewed for free and the day before before PP switched to subscription. Obviously I posted with the belief anyone could view at anytime and unaware that time was running out....So to speak.
  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    It's absolutely irrelevant and still doesn't change the fact that the subject matter of this thread is little more than gossip. If that's your thing, then I guess you grew up hiding copies of Women's Day & New Idea under your mattress?  8-}
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    Your response is childish.  :-*
  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    Well if you wanna argue about facts and evidence, how about producing some? Until then, this tripe will get the response it deserves.
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    Obviously I can't produce the original article as it wouldn't be worth the $200.

    Some additional gossip then.....The current free bit from PP 

    Poor old David Vandyke. Nothing has gone right for him since the QRIC team bowled up at his stables for a surprise visit early last week, and his wretched run of misfortune continued yesterday at Eagle Farm when a couple of second placings and a curious late scratching stretched his losing streak to eight 
  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    edited September 18
    You're a little slow on the uptake. The stable investigation does not imply there is a causational relationship with the subsequent race day results. The 'author' of this fiction dances around legal issues by presenting the facts in sequence and allowing suspicious minds to join the dots. There may have been a full moon last Saturday for all I know-does that mean it's to blame for the run of outs? 

    As for Alligator Blood-I backed it. I was prepared to accept the odds and I don't think the horse could have come home his last 600m much quicker than he did(33.22sec). Implying the positive swab for Altrenogest after the MM somehow taints all the horse's runs is just plain stupid. 
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    The header for this thread does end with a question mark inviting opinion and you certainly have  stated yours though I would have have been interested in your comments had you read the detailed article even though it wouldn't change your opinion on PP in general. I'll leave the discussion with you there Kramer.
  • therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    I've commented on his stuff previously and made the same point you have about the lack of legal action pending but it's become increasingly clear he's an agenda driven idiot with a chip on his shoulder. This latest rubbish wasn't worth repeating and as the article is now hidden behind a paywall, the title does all the damage.
  • (September 20 09:53AM )
    careycarey    6,183 posts

    I've commented on his stuff previously and made the same point you have about the lack of legal action pending but it's become increasingly clear he's an agenda driven idiot with a chip on his shoulder. This latest rubbish wasn't worth repeating and as the article is now hidden behind a paywall, the title does all the damage.

    dunno who he is or know what he is about, but if you just click and click, the articles will come up.
  • (September 20 01:42PM )
    SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    edited September 20
    Welcome back Carey  :x

    Are you able to view full articles? I can only view headings and the notice... Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content. 

    Kramer appears to have the same issue.


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  • (September 21 03:55AM )
    therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts

    Welcome back Carey  :x


    Are you able to view full articles? I can only view headings and the notice... Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content. 

    Kramer appears to have the same issue.


    @carey has one of those super computers that places bets while he sleeps tho  :-@ @-)
  • (September 21 05:20AM )
    careycarey    6,183 posts

    Welcome back Carey  :x


    Are you able to view full articles? I can only view headings and the notice... Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content. 

    Kramer appears to have the same issue.


    @carey has one of those super computers that places bets while he sleeps tho  :-@ @-)
    Thanks, one learns something new every day.
    Checked every room, and still I can't find this 'super computer'


  • (September 21 06:12AM )
    therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    carey said:

    Welcome back Carey  :x


    Are you able to view full articles? I can only view headings and the notice... Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content. 

    Kramer appears to have the same issue.


    @carey has one of those super computers that places bets while he sleeps tho  :-@ @-)
    Thanks, one learns something new every day.
    Checked every room, and still I can't find this 'super computer'


    I may have embellished slightly. Seems like the right thread, tbh. The tales appear to be taller than an NBA player.
  • (September 21 06:14AM )
    careycarey    6,183 posts

    carey said:

    Welcome back Carey  :x


    Are you able to view full articles? I can only view headings and the notice... Subscribe or log in to read the rest of this content. 

    Kramer appears to have the same issue.


    @carey has one of those super computers that places bets while he sleeps tho  :-@ @-)
    Thanks, one learns something new every day.
    Checked every room, and still I can't find this 'super computer'


    I may have embellished slightly. Seems like the right thread, tbh. The tales appear to be taller than an NBA player.
    what tales would they be?
  • (September 21 06:29AM )
    therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    edited September 21
    The Vandyke one is circumstantial at best. The fact stewards visited the stable prior to an underwhelming day at the races does not mean anything. As for tying it to a drifting fav being beaten 1st up when bigger targets(Everest, Golden Eagle) await, well that's mischievous at the very least. Nature Strip(also heading towards the Everest) was beaten first up as a $1.45 fav(again) and I don't see people accusing Waller of anything other than being a sook.


    The season strike rate is irrelevant given the small sample size and, again, that's hardly enough to prove anything untoward.

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  • (September 21 06:31AM )
    careycarey    6,183 posts
    thank you, i thought you were referring to me.
    sorry
  • (September 21 06:35AM )
    therealkramertherealkramer    7,672 posts
    edited September 21
    carey said:

    thank you, i thought you were referring to me.
    sorry


     I'm the nicest guy on here @carey  O:-) 
  • (September 21 07:00AM )
    SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,024 posts
    :)) :))

    You are indubitably the most modest one on here

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