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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    2,870 posts
    I was eluding to the lack of interaction between you and Freodockers.
  • I think most would agree the AFL was a far more attractive competition to watch this season with a more attacking mindset from teams on moving the ball quickly forward (except the rabble that is WCE) after nearly a decade of lower scoring, scrum like pack footy that was very ordinary to view.

    And now we have Lyon, Clarkson & Scott all coming back in to the coaches boxes at StK, NM & ESS respectively I bet they go back to their dull as dishwater, defensive minded based game plans that they only know especially Lyon! 
    :-&
    It’s actually got nothing to do with teams game plans being more attacking. The single greatest impact on scoring has been the stand rule. It’s effectively a free kick. In contrast to the 6,6,6, rule where they anticipated an influx of centre bounce goals. It didn’t eventuate.

  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    Freo has gone AWOL. Reckon the elimination final loss against Collingwood has finished him off.
    Reality hit home how far off the pace the Dickers are. Haha
    Where are you Freo. ??? 
    :-/

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  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    I saw off Dungy and now I have added Freo’s scalp. 
    These guys need to realise that when you “mess with the best…..the best don’t mess” Haha
    Go Nic and Nic junior. !!! 
    [-X
  • JayJayJayJay    7,712 posts
    On behalf of old mate Freo:

    The words of Martin McKenzie-Murray are interesting....in response to some politician waxing lyrical about sport embracing egalitarianism and bringing out humanities finest qualities, in a book entitled "Fair Game: Lessons from Sport For a Fairer Society" - improving quality, productivity and competitive fairness.The book burbles on about Football Clubs being some paragon of decency and moral instruction and is complete B/S.
    Whilst noting that Membership at West Coast increased annually during its florid drug culture of the noughties, he suggests the clubs denial and selective indifference to any issues was over ridden by the team excelling.
    "As well as two grand finals and a flag, there was also death, flat lined hearts, psychosis, jail, players had contact with those involved in underworld shootings, others were heard by police on the tapped phones of major drug traffickers, ex players crimes included arson, assault, armed robbery, domestic violence, the forging of prescriptions and that in general, the club ignored any suggestion of drug taking".

    The denial extended to the supporter base who floated the old "It is happening at all clubs, no one has ever tested positive, nothing to see here",  and now, hopefully very correctly, state that "we have moved on from there".  "Mess with the best....the best don't mess" has a somewhat hollow ring to it.

    Hopefully the culture is sorted, now they just need to kick some goals at the draft after a seemingly underwhelming trade period. Go Nic and Nic Junior indeed, because they were miles off the pace last year.

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  • oldhendooldhendo    772 posts
    Dont worry Deto i will be here to hold your hand as you and your pathetic mob go through hell for the next few years, i look forward to seeing young nic play, sure to be a fine netballer.
  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    edited October 2022
    JayJay said:

    On behalf of old mate Freo:

    The words of Martin McKenzie-Murray are interesting....in response to some politician waxing lyrical about sport embracing egalitarianism and bringing out humanities finest qualities, in a book entitled "Fair Game: Lessons from Sport For a Fairer Society" - improving quality, productivity and competitive fairness.The book burbles on about Football Clubs being some paragon of decency and moral instruction and is complete B/S.
    Whilst noting that Membership at West Coast increased annually during its florid drug culture of the noughties, he suggests the clubs denial and selective indifference to any issues was over ridden by the team excelling.
    "As well as two grand finals and a flag, there was also death, flat lined hearts, psychosis, jail, players had contact with those involved in underworld shootings, others were heard by police on the tapped phones of major drug traffickers, ex players crimes included arson, assault, armed robbery, domestic violence, the forging of prescriptions and that in general, the club ignored any suggestion of drug taking".

    The denial extended to the supporter base who floated the old "It is happening at all clubs, no one has ever tested positive, nothing to see here",  and now, hopefully very correctly, state that "we have moved on from there".  "Mess with the best....the best don't mess" has a somewhat hollow ring to it.

    Hopefully the culture is sorted, now they just need to kick some goals at the draft after a seemingly underwhelming trade period. Go Nic and Nic Junior indeed, because they were miles off the pace last year.
    Thanks for the history lesson JayJay. 
    You must have watched the same YouTube videos on the “dark days of the Eagles” that I have recently.
    If you don’t think every club has visited the dark side in some form then you are delusional. The Dickers with Johnson, Hogan Crowley etc and the list goes on. 
    Essendon with “needle gate”. Geelong 20211 coached by squeaky clean Thompson.
    And the Didak, Johnson  underworld Pies. Just to name a few.;)

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  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    oldhendo said:

    Dont worry Deto i will be here to hold your hand as you and your pathetic mob go through hell for the next few years, i look forward to seeing young nic play, sure to be a fine netballer.

    Must have got over the sulks Oldhendo ?
    Welcome back.
    Re Signed De Gone I see. Look forward to all the headlines next year for all the wrong reasons. Haha. 
    =))
  • oldhendooldhendo    772 posts
    No sulks here Deto, the boys had a great season and still have lots to work on, all smiles young fella.

    :-c
  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    On the website “Perth Now” headline is Nic not W.A’s favourite footballer any more ?
    “brand Fyfe” has taken over that mantle ???  WTF ???
    The “big black panther” will regain his crown this season. The cream always rises to the top.
    \:D/
  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,947 posts
    An AFL Umpire ( and a few others arrested ) over re betting on the Brownlow - actually round by round betting which drew suspicions 

    Im pretty sure - i might be wrong - but many years ago in the WAFL  something similar happened - an umpire perhaps tipped off others who might actually win 
  • curmudgeoncurmudgeon    2,417 posts
    David Hollins I think

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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    2,870 posts
    David Hollins 1971 before sports betting was legal. A boundary umpire collated the votes after talking to field umpires at training. He fell down a flight of stairs soon after but fortunately was not seriously injured.

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  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,289 posts
    Brady Anderson (EP) in 1997 was another Sandover Medal leak and subsequent successful betting plunge, this time though the leak came from WAFC HQ.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    and they reckon the Clarko/hawthorn was going to be the biggest ever scandal in the AFL's history...

    :))

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,712 posts
    I don't go much on The West's football writers but after avoiding "PSA" Jordan's cheer squad article promoting yet another Hale kid for the draft, Craig O'Donohue has written a very exposing article on Brownlow Voting in some of the rounds where Michael Pell was officiating, whilst acknowledging that he was just one of the three umpires that determine the votes.  Well researched  and balanced round by round analysis,in stark contrast to some of the other drivel they print. Recommended reading. Will be interesting to find out whether these alleged "voting anomalies" are linked to any of the bets laid with the betting agencies in the two day window of opportunity for bets to be laid. Much more to play out on this event one feels.

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  • tonytony    2,384 posts
    From what I have read the big "mistake they made which resulted in a betting agency advising the AFL and police was that they never lost in any of the bets they placed.

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,947 posts
    Spot on Tony - you have to throw in  some losers - duds - so the trail isnt obvious 

    About 10 years ago on TAB.Com - and i didnt profit from it - if i did i wouldnt be telling you 

    Interstate Trotting race - ive watched on my computer - they have crossed the line - but they are still betting on the race - betting not closed - so i quickly put a trifecta 10 times straight - a winner - but i also put 2-3 other $20 trifectas straight which were losers ( cunning low barstd aernt i ) because something similar to this happened previously - and they analysed all bets by everyone in a particular race 

    Bottom line is - i got nothing - they knocked everything on the head 

    But as you say - that umpire - they should have had weeks where they lost 8 or 10 thousand - but over the year we are going to show a nice profit 
  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    Murray Wrenstead was a certainty in 1985.
    Saw him smack Michael Taylor of Perth in the mouth in front of the umpire and grandstand at Lathlain Park. Round 19.  Home crowd went mental. No case to answer….apparently.:-B
  • JayJayJayJay    7,712 posts

    David Hollins 1971 before sports betting was legal. A boundary umpire collated the votes after talking to field umpires at training. He fell down a flight of stairs soon after but fortunately was not seriously injured.

    On April 11 1970 at the Wyalkatchem Trots, the 2.27 and better pace over 8 furlongs had a surprising winner. Wins Hope, an aged mare by Clinker Boy, had 37 starts that season for just the one success....over Willie Wontie and Tourist Bay, rating 2.13 for reinsman A.Hocking. It warmed up earlier in the day with a 6th placing behind future high class performer Rickey Reason.

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,712 posts
    In 1979, I think a plunge on Stephen Michael (8/1 to 6/4) about 4 weeks out from the count, came unstuck, Phil Kelly taking the win.
    Michael set the record straight winning the next two Sandovers. The "plungers" were a year early.

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