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  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    Geelong 

    List management at the Eagles has been atrocious since the 2018 GF.

    Even after the weekends carnage the replacement talk is all about another trip to the retirement village to exhume Nic Nat & Elliot Yeo. They & several others are done physically. Time for Homer to have it explained to him that the comfy chair interrogation of reality isn't working..
    Bailey Williams can rest easy ....he may be another in the long list of West Coast ruckmen traded out to become premiership ruckmen at other clubs in anticipation of Nic Nat returning to rescue the Eagles.
    Eagles did recruit the only ruckman in this years draft. 
    When that happened I was thinking, what would Williams and Jameson be thinking on his selection ?
    :-B
  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    I thought it was one of his better games, showed a bit of grit.
    Having said that he is a very tall young fella but he doesn’t get anywhere near it in centre bounce.
    Body on body (boundary) he got into it.
    Cole and Duggan big improvers, McGovern warmed up right in front of me and he was avoiding any contact and looked ginger as anything. I don’t normally watch opposition players warm up just happened to be right in front of me and I like him as a person and player, feel for the guy. Don’t think he should have been out there from the start.
  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    Hahaha hahaha Cole and Duggan big improvers.

    Cole has been out of action for nearly 18months and Duggan is another Petroviski who should’ve been got rid of at the end of last year

    And they are both big improvers???? On what??! They both did nothing on a football field for 2 seasons!!! Hahaha

    The weegirls still have 4-6 players that need to go. On top of Shuey, Nic Nat and McGotasoresomething

    None of them will be here for the next rebuild. Get rid of them and buy a few more 50-100 games who want to play the modern game Instead of continually fixing up broken champions who just will never stop trying for the club. They doe their bit.

    Celebrate there greatness. Don’t let Shuey, Nic Nat and McGovern ever again feel like they have let the team or club down. They are champions of the club.

    Let them retire in greatness. Hand the batten to the new team. And be a steadying influence off the field to instil their attitude into the next generation.

    IMO the Weegitrls Board need to step up to the plate now. Spend the season retiring and celebrating the listed champions, to make room for anyone in any team that wants to be apart of a team with a winning history and a good list of young players getting heaps of opportunities.

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  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    Well your a genius Rio, last year in your words it wasn’t that bad, just go to the draft and pick 3 champions, that’ll fix it (remember my comment re no names) that’s what half the team is now.
  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    BTW Rio did you watch your second game for the year or choose to ignore til your “2 year transition is over”.
    Eagles transition I mean.
  • RIORIO    14,882 posts

    Well your a genius Rio, last year in your words it wasn’t that bad, just go to the draft and pick 3 champions, that’ll fix it (remember my comment re no names) that’s what half the team is now.



    Jordan Hunt fits the bill perfectly for what they needed to do..But they only got 1.....They just cant attract even better quality players than him to the club while these champions are on the list...

    Now an opportunity has come along through several injuries to get some of these champions to move....The board needs to get involved now...End of season is too late as anyone thinking about moving is generally already in heavy discussions with another club....an if not they are not the quality players the Weegirls need..

    They have given many of their champions heaps of opportunity to get their bodies right...hasn't worked. They need to show their club champions the respect and protection for the next phase of their lives that no sports player ever wants to make for themselves.

    IMO This is who should be retired before mid season...

    Dom Sheed...Should never had got another contract after 2018...1 injury and hes out
    Nic Nat - Club Champion, never going to get that elusive winning GF..Immediate retired
    Luke Shuey - as above, he has had many opportunities to get his body right..At 32 he has done his bit for the club.
    Jeremy McGovern...as above, been massive for the club. At 30 let him go and rest up.
    Jack Petrucelle...Too many years of soft tissue injuries...De-list him at end of season, try to get him fit for value in a end of season draft pick

     THEN
    Hurn...end of season or next soft tissue
    Gaff - if they keep Sheed, retire Gaff at end of season..Just cant have 2 slow left footers in the modern game
    Jaime Cripps..review at end of season but may be time to hang the boots up..sensational servant of the club.

    Elliot Yeo.....at 29 is worth another chance...Showed so much off half back last season, Someone get in his ear and say....YOU are NOT going to win every game by yourself..

    So 4 spots before end of season..key players. Potential 7 by end of season...It should send a clear message to potential new players, that there is space for some quality players.

    As for your other comments...you keep splashing around in the sewer for as long as you like. I don't lower my standards for scum like you.

  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    If I remember Rio I was actually giving WC players compliments , responding to Detto respectfully before you got involved.
    St Kilda still shit are they ??
    You have no idea.
  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    Hey Rio you sure you and NSS are not the same clown.
    Sunday night he worked out that someone should ask questions why Weagles have so many injuries.
    What a genius
  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    Whilst our injury curse is creating a lot of headlines I am taking the glass half full approach and enjoying watching the young blokes and the return of the likes of Oscar Allen who has again given us a taste of how good he could become.
    On Cole and Duggan they look fit and appear ready to play some of their best footy. Amazing what an uninterrupted pre season can do. 
    Changing tack slightly. Congrats to Andrew Brayshaw for coming out and telling the Dockers supporters to move on from booing Gaff. He has moved on himself and wants the supporters to do the same. 
    Says a lot about the young man. Not sure the booing will stop though.
    Where’s Nic ???
    #-o
  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    Agree Detto last year Freo booing Cerra, not on.
    Forget about waving your hands, umpires should have a boometer & if it goes over a certain level free kick the other way.
    That will stop it in its tracks.
  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,947 posts
    Boy there is some pretty rough comments in the last page of this thread 

    Im not a bagger/rubbisher of Simpson - because he is a Premiership coach and was also a dual premiership player - however looking at him in the box late in the game - with the injuries to Shuey and McGovern very proppy - plus you look at some of the players they have got Waterman - Cripps - the ex Carlton bloke - with the hair in a bun - Sheed and Gaff - both had it - Jones who was a scrubber at Geel - and was delisted - he has got a lot fitter - but i thought he played poorly Sunday 

    But the look of Simpson - if someone had tapped  him on the shoulder and said heres your payout cheque - he would have gleefully taken it - to get out of that train wreck - and these days there are no Dean Kermps with pick 105 - all that nonsense  is long finished 

    Eagles supporters might not like hearing it - but there is no such thing as a great club in the AFL - and that applies to all 18 clubs - there is no such thing as a great AFL Club - it simply comes down to trading and recruiting - and if you dont get that right - you end up in the horrendous position that W/Coast currently are 

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  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    Well said Marko 100%.
  • RIORIO    14,882 posts

    If I remember Rio I was actually giving WC players compliments , responding to Detto respectfully before you got involved.
    St Kilda still **** are they ??
    You have no idea.



    listen you deadset pharkwit. i did not address one comment to you.But you feel that your justified in directing comment after comment..post after post towards me!?!??!?!?!

    Your a gutter swimming, excreta sucking vermin. A old fashioned Dorker supporter that constantly compares yourself to the Weegirls and our 3 Premiership Cups.An feel hard done by!!!! haha, dipschit you've had about 30 years to get over that ... AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T MADE IT!!!!hahaha

    I didnt read in the rule book where comments are only for a certain few to comment on?? Get over yourself. You put a comment up on a notice board like this and anyone is allowed to comment on it.

    Your are a seriously sad little puppy.. Run and hide for 6 months after you team gets humiliated in the finals and then come back and focus all our attention on the Weegirls.

    Pathetic..you were 3 years ago..and here you are.....still a little cry baby that cant get away from commenting about another club, cos your team was as pathetic in last years finals, as your comments are..HAHAHA

    Going forward.....I may comment on every comment you make..as that is what this site is about...hahaha..If you want to comment exclusively with someone...don't do it on a notice board type site!!!!!!
  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    Absolute rubbish written by a 12 yo.

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  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    Just another observation after Sunday`s game is the "new role" Andrew Gaff appears to have been given. 
    I reckon he made more tackles in that game than he has given in his whole career. Even ran players down. WTF
    Just a sample size I know but it appears he may have been asked to be a "hybrid tagger/run with player" ?
    His lack of pace is a liability and they have no option had to give him another role to justify his place in the team. He looks leaner and fitter as well which helps.
    I remember Don Pyke as a forward player early in his career treading water until Mick turned him into a run with player and became one of the best at it.    
    Regards 
    Glass Half Full
    :D
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,037 posts
    i know not many of you get the west newspaper but sumich's article is well worth a read. its all about nic. nat.
    his injury is career ending (?) but peter suggests he be sent to "the worlds best sports medicine and training experts" after "stunningly the WC powerbrokers contracted nat. for another 2 years last september"
    if i remember correctly the 116kg ruckman has been to germany and usa for treatment.
    peter states that he has been worth approx 30-40 million in merchandising and membership sales.
    personally i think the big man should retire from playing but become a part-time ambassador as he is now.

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,712 posts
    Perhaps the "8 game mascot" tag may have been a little generous....perhaps its time to head down that promotions type pathway a bit earlier than anticipated. It is very hard when his athletic prowess, as good as any big man in the game when fully fit, is being severely compromised. Good luck to him.

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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,779 posts
    thefalcon said:

    i know not many of you get the west newspaper but sumich's article is well worth a read. its all about nic. nat.

    his injury is career ending (?) but peter suggests he be sent to "the worlds best sports medicine and training experts" after "stunningly the WC powerbrokers contracted nat. for another 2 years last september"
    if i remember correctly the 116kg ruckman has been to germany and usa for treatment.
    peter states that he has been worth approx 30-40 million in merchandising and membership sales.
    personally i think the big man should retire from playing but become a part-time ambassador as he is now.



    I was having a look at the rag today when getting a coffee and from memory there were no less than 7 photos of Nic spread over 3 pages.

    Sells merchandise and sells papers apparently.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,037 posts
    ^^ i bet fyfe is pyssed off..."where's my photo"... :((

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  • oldhendooldhendo    772 posts
    They really scare my budgie when i line their cage floor with the paper.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,037 posts
    but when you get to our age, oldhendo, we need it to check the obits... :-O

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  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    thefalcon said:

    but when you get to our age, oldhendo, we need it to check the obits... :-O




    That’s another reason not to get it. I got hounded by family for not putting one in last year….those who didn’t know didn’t need to know. So if I’m not staying in contact these days with someone, whether they are alive or getting a one liner in the obits, makes no di????
  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    Let’s be honest. Football without the “human highlight reel” is just not the same.
    I miss him. 
    :(
  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    You’ll just have to move on Detto.
  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    Yes I will move on after Nic. Looks like it will be sooner than I anticipated.
    Out for the year ??? WTF
    Might have to hitch my wagon to Rueben for the next 15 years. 
    :x

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  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    Is that a guess I have not seen that.
  • detonatordetonator    4,368 posts
    edited April 2023
    I thought I heard Homer saying words to that effect Freo but not 100% certain. I was half tuned in at the time.
    But definitely out till mid season.
    If this is the end then Deto will be Devo. 
    :(

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,037 posts
    homer indicated he'd be out for the season.
  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,779 posts
    Time for the bloke with more titals beside his name than there are days in the week Mr Bell to step aside.

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  • freodockersfreodockers    2,667 posts
    Why Bell ??
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