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  • JayJayJayJay    7,467 posts
    Interesting stewards report, no log book of treatment available at Grimsons at pre-race stable inspection. Fined $200. Should they have been allowed to start?

    Plenty of tactics on show for his race 1 runners, Majestic Cruiser and Major Meister seemed to have lost their spark along with BetterZippit and the two ex claimers that won the Inters, Boncel Benjamin and I Cast No Shadow.

    He gets them to peak for the big races alright, a genius.

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,732 posts
    Imust say - Sayzee - looking up its form card - that is the biggest improvement ive ever seen in a pacer in  such a short period of time 

    So its last run for the previous trainer T Butt - was at Redcliffe race 10  2100  in April 23 - it started $6.50 ran last beaten 30 plus metres in 1.58.6 rate to the winner - average time thats all . 2nd horse in that race Captains Pick - very average horse of Grant Dixons got a NR of 63 

    6 starts for the new trainer for 6 wins - but last night 13 furlongs and it goes 1.54  with incredible sections 28.7 28.5 27.3 27.5 
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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,548 posts
    Sounds like the real action at Albion Park Saturday was off the track.
  • JayJayJayJay    7,467 posts
    Close circuit footage passed onto Integrity Commission. 6 persons of interest to be interviewed??? The two feuding parties each left the Bar via different exits after being separated.
  • LightningJakeLightningJake    10 posts
    Pray tell more. Is there a link to follow, please.
  • JimmyPopJimmyPop    291 posts
    Markovina said:

    Markovina said:

    sonny said:

     - and unlike a couple of WA Trots callers - whose calls are totally  ruined because they are punters . 



    Just a thought , care to elaborate on that ?  Barsby is good, but gets a little to over-dramatic for me at times.
    Ok - you said elaborate - and i will 

    The 2 WA callers i was referring to - are Ritchie Bell and Hayden King 

    Bell - ive sung his praises - got an excellent voice - but he does punt - you can tell it in the call - plus he should not be saying - at the bell - oh this driver has got a big decision to make - he shouldnt be saying that - if he happens to stay in - yes he can then say - look he stayed in - thats actually calling the race 

    The other knock - is - and this is for the older forum members - Bell in my opinion has got a touch of the Brian Markovics ( use to call M/Valley trots ) Markovic use to now and again get a little bit too cocckie - and hed say - oh look this thing has raced away - then 30 metres from home panic - panic - oh it is folding up - its got beat - if your listening to them on the radio - and if  your on them - that can leave a real sour taste in your mouth 

    With H King - hes got the habit of telling you - the audience - with multiple laps to go that they have got no hope -or a forlorn chance - this thing needed to be here in the running - not back their - im not saying what he says is incorrect - but just call the race . I think there was a race at Northam a while back - and it might have been one of of Jay Jays - and with 2 laps to go he is saying its chances are forlorn - i thought to myself - Jay Jay is going to love hearing that 

    Not being  patronising -but predominant Trot callers - Barsby the best in Aust he gets a big tick - the others who get a tick of approval in my opinion are Lachlan McIntosh (Vic) Panda ( WA ) Craig Easey ( NSW ) 

    And the one i cant stand at all is Luke Humphrey - no - no - no - no - no - and his love affair with the colours they are wearing - oh dear 
    Luke Humphreys calling at Horsham today.
    He is horrible to listen to. It sounds like he isn't that well educated.
  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,732 posts
    That Grimson article is paywalled - anyway around it

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,467 posts
    Subscribe? I have access but think it would be a breach to post Robert Craddock's Courier Mail article on hear.

    In short, it seems post race, some members of the Butt family who formerly trained Swayzee, and some Members of Grimson team exchanged words/insults/derogatory remarks....it escalated into physical contact after that. The Bar Manager tried and eventually succeeded in separating the feuding parties after some significant biffo and on lot were shepherded out through one door and the other lot through a different door.


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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,732 posts
    Thanks for that 

    When you  say the Grimson team - and im not accusing - but Mitch Ford - a very talented young driver from Tassie - i see he has recently joined the Grimson camp and been in Qld helping with Swayzee 

    But Ford and his brother they were the 2 just not that long ago at a Hobart Trots meeting - after 2 separate races the Ford bros and the Hillier bros were hurling insults at each other -as soon as the horses crossed the line  i think they all got fined 2k each  - it was pretty serious stuff 

    So i wonder if Mitch was supporting his new boss in this Qld Trots brawl 


  • Cant_RefuseCant_Refuse    159 posts
    You can use some of those millions you make on the punt to subscribe marko
  • G-MacG-Mac    1,553 posts
    JimmyPop said:

    Markovina said:

    Markovina said:

    sonny said:

     - and unlike a couple of WA Trots callers - whose calls are totally  ruined because they are punters . 



    Just a thought , care to elaborate on that ?  Barsby is good, but gets a little to over-dramatic for me at times.
    Ok - you said elaborate - and i will 

    The 2 WA callers i was referring to - are Ritchie Bell and Hayden King 

    Bell - ive sung his praises - got an excellent voice - but he does punt - you can tell it in the call - plus he should not be saying - at the bell - oh this driver has got a big decision to make - he shouldnt be saying that - if he happens to stay in - yes he can then say - look he stayed in - thats actually calling the race 

    The other knock - is - and this is for the older forum members - Bell in my opinion has got a touch of the Brian Markovics ( use to call M/Valley trots ) Markovic use to now and again get a little bit too cocckie - and hed say - oh look this thing has raced away - then 30 metres from home panic - panic - oh it is folding up - its got beat - if your listening to them on the radio - and if  your on them - that can leave a real sour taste in your mouth 

    With H King - hes got the habit of telling you - the audience - with multiple laps to go that they have got no hope -or a forlorn chance - this thing needed to be here in the running - not back their - im not saying what he says is incorrect - but just call the race . I think there was a race at Northam a while back - and it might have been one of of Jay Jays - and with 2 laps to go he is saying its chances are forlorn - i thought to myself - Jay Jay is going to love hearing that 

    Not being  patronising -but predominant Trot callers - Barsby the best in Aust he gets a big tick - the others who get a tick of approval in my opinion are Lachlan McIntosh (Vic) Panda ( WA ) Craig Easey ( NSW ) 

    And the one i cant stand at all is Luke Humphrey - no - no - no - no - no - and his love affair with the colours they are wearing - oh dear 
    Luke Humphreys calling at Horsham today.
    He is horrible to listen to. It sounds like he isn't that well educated.
    I used to speak to his father on a forum years and years ago. He would speak about Luke a lot. From memory he has autism (definitely on the spectrum) and school was not in agreeance with him. The only information he could retain was racing related. It's all he ever wanted to be involved in. There are enough arrogant know-alls in racing so it's good to see a young bloke with passion for the game and not a bad word to say about anyone living his dream. 
  • JimmyPopJimmyPop    291 posts
    G-Mac said:

    JimmyPop said:

    Markovina said:

    Markovina said:

    sonny said:

     - and unlike a couple of WA Trots callers - whose calls are totally  ruined because they are punters . 



    Just a thought , care to elaborate on that ?  Barsby is good, but gets a little to over-dramatic for me at times.
    Ok - you said elaborate - and i will 

    The 2 WA callers i was referring to - are Ritchie Bell and Hayden King 

    Bell - ive sung his praises - got an excellent voice - but he does punt - you can tell it in the call - plus he should not be saying - at the bell - oh this driver has got a big decision to make - he shouldnt be saying that - if he happens to stay in - yes he can then say - look he stayed in - thats actually calling the race 

    The other knock - is - and this is for the older forum members - Bell in my opinion has got a touch of the Brian Markovics ( use to call M/Valley trots ) Markovic use to now and again get a little bit too cocckie - and hed say - oh look this thing has raced away - then 30 metres from home panic - panic - oh it is folding up - its got beat - if your listening to them on the radio - and if  your on them - that can leave a real sour taste in your mouth 

    With H King - hes got the habit of telling you - the audience - with multiple laps to go that they have got no hope -or a forlorn chance - this thing needed to be here in the running - not back their - im not saying what he says is incorrect - but just call the race . I think there was a race at Northam a while back - and it might have been one of of Jay Jays - and with 2 laps to go he is saying its chances are forlorn - i thought to myself - Jay Jay is going to love hearing that 

    Not being  patronising -but predominant Trot callers - Barsby the best in Aust he gets a big tick - the others who get a tick of approval in my opinion are Lachlan McIntosh (Vic) Panda ( WA ) Craig Easey ( NSW ) 

    And the one i cant stand at all is Luke Humphrey - no - no - no - no - no - and his love affair with the colours they are wearing - oh dear 
    Luke Humphreys calling at Horsham today.
    He is horrible to listen to. It sounds like he isn't that well educated.
    I used to speak to his father on a forum years and years ago. He would speak about Luke a lot. From memory he has autism (definitely on the spectrum) and school was not in agreeance with him. The only information he could retain was racing related. It's all he ever wanted to be involved in. There are enough arrogant know-alls in racing so it's good to see a young bloke with passion for the game and not a bad word to say about anyone living his dream. 
    Thanks G-Mac, always good to get all information. It won't change my mind but I can certainly appreciate him for his dedication and can only wish him all the best.

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  • Rocket_ReignRocket_Reign    763 posts
    G-Mac said:

    JimmyPop said:

    Markovina said:

    Markovina said:

    sonny said:

     - and unlike a couple of WA Trots callers - whose calls are totally  ruined because they are punters . 



    Just a thought , care to elaborate on that ?  Barsby is good, but gets a little to over-dramatic for me at times.
    Ok - you said elaborate - and i will 

    The 2 WA callers i was referring to - are Ritchie Bell and Hayden King 

    Bell - ive sung his praises - got an excellent voice - but he does punt - you can tell it in the call - plus he should not be saying - at the bell - oh this driver has got a big decision to make - he shouldnt be saying that - if he happens to stay in - yes he can then say - look he stayed in - thats actually calling the race 

    The other knock - is - and this is for the older forum members - Bell in my opinion has got a touch of the Brian Markovics ( use to call M/Valley trots ) Markovic use to now and again get a little bit too cocckie - and hed say - oh look this thing has raced away - then 30 metres from home panic - panic - oh it is folding up - its got beat - if your listening to them on the radio - and if  your on them - that can leave a real sour taste in your mouth 

    With H King - hes got the habit of telling you - the audience - with multiple laps to go that they have got no hope -or a forlorn chance - this thing needed to be here in the running - not back their - im not saying what he says is incorrect - but just call the race . I think there was a race at Northam a while back - and it might have been one of of Jay Jays - and with 2 laps to go he is saying its chances are forlorn - i thought to myself - Jay Jay is going to love hearing that 

    Not being  patronising -but predominant Trot callers - Barsby the best in Aust he gets a big tick - the others who get a tick of approval in my opinion are Lachlan McIntosh (Vic) Panda ( WA ) Craig Easey ( NSW ) 

    And the one i cant stand at all is Luke Humphrey - no - no - no - no - no - and his love affair with the colours they are wearing - oh dear 
    Luke Humphreys calling at Horsham today.
    He is horrible to listen to. It sounds like he isn't that well educated.
    I used to speak to his father on a forum years and years ago. He would speak about Luke a lot. From memory he has autism (definitely on the spectrum) and school was not in agreeance with him. The only information he could retain was racing related. It's all he ever wanted to be involved in. There are enough arrogant know-alls in racing so it's good to see a young bloke with passion for the game and not a bad word to say about anyone living his dream. 



    I think he does a good job, if you’re punting and listening on the radio only he paints a valid picture. Have noticed everyone seems to hate callers but i can’t imagine it would be that easy to get it right 100% of the time

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  • G-MacG-Mac    1,553 posts
    Luke does a good job. Barsby does a good job. I'd rather watch the races on mute myself. Just didn't want a pile on the kid where he's had his challenges.

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,732 posts
    JimmyPop said:

    G-Mac said:

    JimmyPop said:

    Markovina said:

    Markovina said:

    sonny said:

     - and unlike a couple of WA Trots callers - whose calls are totally  ruined because they are punters . 



    Just a thought , care to elaborate on that ?  Barsby is good, but gets a little to over-dramatic for me at times.
    Ok - you said elaborate - and i will 

    The 2 WA callers i was referring to - are Ritchie Bell and Hayden King 

    Bell - ive sung his praises - got an excellent voice - but he does punt - you can tell it in the call - plus he should not be saying - at the bell - oh this driver has got a big decision to make - he shouldnt be saying that - if he happens to stay in - yes he can then say - look he stayed in - thats actually calling the race 

    The other knock - is - and this is for the older forum members - Bell in my opinion has got a touch of the Brian Markovics ( use to call M/Valley trots ) Markovic use to now and again get a little bit too cocckie - and hed say - oh look this thing has raced away - then 30 metres from home panic - panic - oh it is folding up - its got beat - if your listening to them on the radio - and if  your on them - that can leave a real sour taste in your mouth 

    With H King - hes got the habit of telling you - the audience - with multiple laps to go that they have got no hope -or a forlorn chance - this thing needed to be here in the running - not back their - im not saying what he says is incorrect - but just call the race . I think there was a race at Northam a while back - and it might have been one of of Jay Jays - and with 2 laps to go he is saying its chances are forlorn - i thought to myself - Jay Jay is going to love hearing that 

    Not being  patronising -but predominant Trot callers - Barsby the best in Aust he gets a big tick - the others who get a tick of approval in my opinion are Lachlan McIntosh (Vic) Panda ( WA ) Craig Easey ( NSW ) 

    And the one i cant stand at all is Luke Humphrey - no - no - no - no - no - and his love affair with the colours they are wearing - oh dear 
    Luke Humphreys calling at Horsham today.
    He is horrible to listen to. It sounds like he isn't that well educated.
    I used to speak to his father on a forum years and years ago. He would speak about Luke a lot. From memory he has autism (definitely on the spectrum) and school was not in agreeance with him. The only information he could retain was racing related. It's all he ever wanted to be involved in. There are enough arrogant know-alls in racing so it's good to see a young bloke with passion for the game and not a bad word to say about anyone living his dream. 
    Thanks G-Mac, always good to get all information. It won't change my mind but I can certainly appreciate him for his dedication and can only wish him all the best.
    Im with  you JP all the way  - it certainly wont change my opinion of him - i think he is absolutely shocking - and in my book spoils the broadcast of the particular meeting he is at 

    Ok he might have had a challenge or two - plenty have 

    And in my opinion his employer after day one should have said to him - hey Luke how about just  toning it right down - dial it right back - because he is way over the top 

    And Rocket Reign says if listening on the radio he paints a valid picture - what type of picture is that  - a  Pro  Hart picture - because he is obsessed with the colours of the drivers - well what use is that to someone on the radio - oh its the thing with the yellow and white colours 

    Stewart Lowe correct me if im wrong - but i once saw vision of him - and it looked like he had to use crutches to get around permanently - if that was the case then he had alot more challenges than this bloke from Vic . And Stewart Lowe was a 1st class Trots caller and he used to have a great preview of GP - mid Frid afternoon - he had some side kick with him - and youd nearly be crying in laughter - blooody hilarious and a must listen
  • Rocket_ReignRocket_Reign    763 posts
    Markovina said:

    JimmyPop said:

    G-Mac said:

    JimmyPop said:

    Markovina said:

    Markovina said:

    sonny said:

     - and unlike a couple of WA Trots callers - whose calls are totally  ruined because they are punters . 



    Just a thought , care to elaborate on that ?  Barsby is good, but gets a little to over-dramatic for me at times.
    Ok - you said elaborate - and i will 

    The 2 WA callers i was referring to - are Ritchie Bell and Hayden King 

    Bell - ive sung his praises - got an excellent voice - but he does punt - you can tell it in the call - plus he should not be saying - at the bell - oh this driver has got a big decision to make - he shouldnt be saying that - if he happens to stay in - yes he can then say - look he stayed in - thats actually calling the race 

    The other knock - is - and this is for the older forum members - Bell in my opinion has got a touch of the Brian Markovics ( use to call M/Valley trots ) Markovic use to now and again get a little bit too cocckie - and hed say - oh look this thing has raced away - then 30 metres from home panic - panic - oh it is folding up - its got beat - if your listening to them on the radio - and if  your on them - that can leave a real sour taste in your mouth 

    With H King - hes got the habit of telling you - the audience - with multiple laps to go that they have got no hope -or a forlorn chance - this thing needed to be here in the running - not back their - im not saying what he says is incorrect - but just call the race . I think there was a race at Northam a while back - and it might have been one of of Jay Jays - and with 2 laps to go he is saying its chances are forlorn - i thought to myself - Jay Jay is going to love hearing that 

    Not being  patronising -but predominant Trot callers - Barsby the best in Aust he gets a big tick - the others who get a tick of approval in my opinion are Lachlan McIntosh (Vic) Panda ( WA ) Craig Easey ( NSW ) 

    And the one i cant stand at all is Luke Humphrey - no - no - no - no - no - and his love affair with the colours they are wearing - oh dear 
    Luke Humphreys calling at Horsham today.
    He is horrible to listen to. It sounds like he isn't that well educated.
    I used to speak to his father on a forum years and years ago. He would speak about Luke a lot. From memory he has autism (definitely on the spectrum) and school was not in agreeance with him. The only information he could retain was racing related. It's all he ever wanted to be involved in. There are enough arrogant know-alls in racing so it's good to see a young bloke with passion for the game and not a bad word to say about anyone living his dream. 
    Thanks G-Mac, always good to get all information. It won't change my mind but I can certainly appreciate him for his dedication and can only wish him all the best.
    Im with  you JP all the way  - it certainly wont change my opinion of him - i think he is absolutely shocking - and in my book spoils the broadcast of the particular meeting he is at 

    Ok he might have had a challenge or two - plenty have 

    And in my opinion his employer after day one should have said to him - hey Luke how about just  toning it right down - dial it right back - because he is way over the top 

    And Rocket Reign says if listening on the radio he paints a valid picture - what type of picture is that  - a  Pro  Hart picture - because he is obsessed with the colours of the drivers - well what use is that to someone on the radio - oh its the thing with the yellow and white colours 

    Stewart Lowe correct me if im wrong - but i once saw vision of him - and it looked like he had to use crutches to get around permanently - if that was the case then he had alot more challenges than this bloke from Vic . And Stewart Lowe was a 1st class Trots caller and he used to have a great preview of GP - mid Frid afternoon - he had some side kick with him - and youd nearly be crying in laughter - blooody hilarious and a must listen



    Stuart Lowe is your example of a good caller Gee Whiz

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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,548 posts

    Markovina said:

    JimmyPop said:

    G-Mac said:

    JimmyPop said:

    Markovina said:

    Markovina said:

    sonny said:

     - and unlike a couple of WA Trots callers - whose calls are totally  ruined because they are punters . 



    Just a thought , care to elaborate on that ?  Barsby is good, but gets a little to over-dramatic for me at times.
    Ok - you said elaborate - and i will 

    The 2 WA callers i was referring to - are Ritchie Bell and Hayden King 

    Bell - ive sung his praises - got an excellent voice - but he does punt - you can tell it in the call - plus he should not be saying - at the bell - oh this driver has got a big decision to make - he shouldnt be saying that - if he happens to stay in - yes he can then say - look he stayed in - thats actually calling the race 

    The other knock - is - and this is for the older forum members - Bell in my opinion has got a touch of the Brian Markovics ( use to call M/Valley trots ) Markovic use to now and again get a little bit too cocckie - and hed say - oh look this thing has raced away - then 30 metres from home panic - panic - oh it is folding up - its got beat - if your listening to them on the radio - and if  your on them - that can leave a real sour taste in your mouth 

    With H King - hes got the habit of telling you - the audience - with multiple laps to go that they have got no hope -or a forlorn chance - this thing needed to be here in the running - not back their - im not saying what he says is incorrect - but just call the race . I think there was a race at Northam a while back - and it might have been one of of Jay Jays - and with 2 laps to go he is saying its chances are forlorn - i thought to myself - Jay Jay is going to love hearing that 

    Not being  patronising -but predominant Trot callers - Barsby the best in Aust he gets a big tick - the others who get a tick of approval in my opinion are Lachlan McIntosh (Vic) Panda ( WA ) Craig Easey ( NSW ) 

    And the one i cant stand at all is Luke Humphrey - no - no - no - no - no - and his love affair with the colours they are wearing - oh dear 
    Luke Humphreys calling at Horsham today.
    He is horrible to listen to. It sounds like he isn't that well educated.
    I used to speak to his father on a forum years and years ago. He would speak about Luke a lot. From memory he has autism (definitely on the spectrum) and school was not in agreeance with him. The only information he could retain was racing related. It's all he ever wanted to be involved in. There are enough arrogant know-alls in racing so it's good to see a young bloke with passion for the game and not a bad word to say about anyone living his dream. 
    Thanks G-Mac, always good to get all information. It won't change my mind but I can certainly appreciate him for his dedication and can only wish him all the best.
    Im with  you JP all the way  - it certainly wont change my opinion of him - i think he is absolutely shocking - and in my book spoils the broadcast of the particular meeting he is at 

    Ok he might have had a challenge or two - plenty have 

    And in my opinion his employer after day one should have said to him - hey Luke how about just  toning it right down - dial it right back - because he is way over the top 

    And Rocket Reign says if listening on the radio he paints a valid picture - what type of picture is that  - a  Pro  Hart picture - because he is obsessed with the colours of the drivers - well what use is that to someone on the radio - oh its the thing with the yellow and white colours 

    Stewart Lowe correct me if im wrong - but i once saw vision of him - and it looked like he had to use crutches to get around permanently - if that was the case then he had alot more challenges than this bloke from Vic . And Stewart Lowe was a 1st class Trots caller and he used to have a great preview of GP - mid Frid afternoon - he had some side kick with him - and youd nearly be crying in laughter - blooody hilarious and a must listen



    Stuart Lowe is your example of a good caller Gee Whiz



    Couldn't help but feel by the end of every call Stewie Lowe's head was just that little bit closer to exploding!!
  • ArapahoArapaho    203 posts
    JayJay said:

    Close circuit footage passed onto Integrity Commission. 6 persons of interest to be interviewed??? The two feuding parties each left the Bar via different exits after being separated.

    Not sure if posted elsewhere Grimson disqualified 12 months,Trainor 3 months for their involvement in brawl.
  • JayJayJayJay    7,467 posts
    edited August 26
    Stay granted....Hi MaName IsJeff wins in 1.48.9 at Menangle tonight for Grimson after changing stables since it's last start 10th at Kilmore in July.
  • ArapahoArapaho    203 posts
    thanks JJ was wondering why both Grimson and Trainor where sending some around tonight.

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  • G-MacG-Mac    1,553 posts
    Adam Russo seems to be a popular bloke according to the Stewards Report
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