Melbourne Cup 2023East Coast Racing

Voodoo

Old Dominique has come a long way since the days of Carnarvon and Geraldton.... good luck to him....took the punt and paid off handsomely.

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Magical Lagoon can be big improver

DamienWyer

Military Mission as a rough chance. No weight and reasonable form leading into this race.

It's a very bland field 

Thunderstruck

Visitors were ....

Shite as expected :P

Thunderstruck

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:

Magical Lagoon can be big improver

I reckon you suggested about 10 and didn't get close :P

PC

Winner too good. Ashrun ran super, ran 4th.

jum

Soulcombe missed it again but also ran 3250 meters the extra 50 was all in the straight too. 

If Moreira sticks to the fence, I think it wins. Was a massive run. 

Thunderstruck

jum said:

Soulcombe missed it again but also ran 3250 meters the extra 50 was all in the straight too. 

If Moreira sticks to the fence, I think it wins. Was a massive run. 

Was on e.w all day, saved my arse at 3.75 fixed the drum.
Ashrun a great run PC.

All in all though the winner was far too good..and Gold Trip at this stage idk what happened with him but hope he is alright.

Markovina

Got no interest in the gallops today - but i heard a radio call of the Cup by accident in the car on the way home - turned on 720 ABC to hear the World Today - or whatever its called just after 12 - but had the pleasure of listening to Mathew Hills call of the Melb Cup 

Id give it 1000 out of 1000 - i like people who have got very good diction and speak the Kings English properly - he doesnt miss/mess  any of his call re the horses name or whatever description he was painting of the race 

Do yourself a favour - just listen to his call dont watch the pictures - it is a Masterpiece from start to finish  - and all the racecallers around Aust should listen to it - because that is the Gold standard - perfect diction - and none of the Crapp which alot  of them go on with 

jum

Markovina said:

Got no interest in the gallops today - but i heard a radio call of the Cup by accident in the car on the way home - turned on 720 ABC to hear the World Today - or whatever its called just after 12 - but had the pleasure of listening to Mathew Hills call of the Melb Cup 

Id give it 1000 out of 1000 - i like people who have got very good diction and speak the Kings English properly - he doesnt miss/mess  any of his call re the horses name or whatever description he was painting of the race 

Do yourself a favour - just listen to his call dont watch the pictures - it is a Masterpiece from start to finish  - and all the racecallers around Aust should listen to it - because that is the Gold standard - perfect diction - and none of the Crapp which alot  of them go on with 

When He finishes his career. He will be the Greatest Of All Time.

He is the best in the business by a very long way in my opinion. 

jum

jum said:

Soulcombe missed it again but also ran 3250 meters the extra 50 was all in the straight too. 

If Moreira sticks to the fence, I think it wins. Was a massive run. 

Watching the overhead view is  :-& :-&

Winner was huge. But if I owned Soulcombe I would be drunk for a month wondering what if.

PC

Winner too good. Soulcomb missed the start....again, ran 2nd. The outsider Sheraz surprised and ran well for 3rd. Ashrun - ran super. Credit to the Maher/Eustace Stable to get him right after a 3 year lay-off with injury, ran 4th, so glad I backed Asheun at $101 4 weeks ago and then $51 2 weeks ago on Bet365....they paid out for 4th place in the Melbourne Cuo which was good. WA jockey Mark Zahra...his second Melbourne Cup (won it in 2022 - Gold Trip)....riding very well.


Also, I think the mindset for a lot of people (not necessarily on here) has to change now in regards to disregarding a horse who is having their second (or more) attempt at winning the Melbourne Cup. One of the processes of elimination was to not back a horse who was having another attempt at winning the race if they didn't win the previous year. In recent times - it's changed...


Horses to win the Melbourne Cup at their second + attempt - Since 2000:

2000
1st: Brew (finished 10th in 1999)

2013
1st: Fiorente (finished 2nd in 2012)

2020
Twilight Payment (finished 11th in 2019)

2021
1st: Verry Elleegant (finished 7th in 2020)

2023
1st: Without A Fight (finished 13th in 2022)

Gilgamesh

Anyone know what weight Hollie Doyle gets around at???

She made Britt and Michelle Payne look like giants!

thefalcon

about 35kg dripping wet and with her teeth out... ;)

spinking

Someone may know the answer. And i may be wrong but how come Soulcombe has not been sent back to trials as he repeatatly doesnt jump

PC

Western Australian Jockeys to Win the Melbourne Cup:

Damien Oliver - 3
Doreimus: 1995
Media Puzzle: 2002
Fiorente: 2013

Mark Zahra - 2
Without A Fight: 2023
Gold Trip: 2022

John Marshall - 1
Rogan Josh: 1999

John Miller - 1
Galilee: 1966

thefalcon

^ see my comment on the w.a. thread...

tony

Disagree with you falc. All jockeys mentioned were WA born and started their careers here.

Same as a footballer who played in WA before going to Melbourne.

Markovina

PC said:

Western Australian Jockeys to Win the Melbourne Cup:

Damien Oliver - 3
Doreimus: 1995
Media Puzzle: 2002
Fiorente: 2013

Mark Zahra - 2
Without A Fight: 2023
Gold Trip: 2022

John Marshall - 1
Rogan Josh: 1999

John Miller - 1
Galilee: 1966

In Barts Autobiography - published in about 2009 - very good  read - he rated Miller his best ever stable jockey - hard to argue with that 

Seeing its the Melb Cup thread - the late Harry White who won 4 Melb Cups  - was number 2 rider promoted to no 1  - won a couple a couple of Melb Cups with Bart - then Bart sacked him - and then a couple of years later Bart re employed him as No 1 Jockey with great success . In the book - why did you sack him - Bart  simply said - look there were alot of stories going around about Harry at the time - he then added - maybe it was just people being jealous of his success 

As for Damien Oliver - great rider and all the rest of it - but i just call it as i see it - its a shame but he brought it upon himself - but that 10k winning bet he placed through Robert Smerdon just leaves a terrible stain on his career in my opinion 

Re WA jockeys - Mark Sestich - he was as good as any of them in my opinion - excellent intelligent rider who knew his form  - and forget about all the biased nonsense when you do ratings - the best test is allways - if you had your life riding on it who would you pick - well Sestich would be right up near the top for me 

spinking

May be mistaken Marlo . But if my memory serves me correctly the horse I think was called Octopussy and it didn’t win. His problems was he got caught. How many jocks do you reckon have a bet?. Regardless of his indiscretion the GOAT. And he has the trophy cabinet to prove it

spinking

Sorry Marko. I stand corrected it did win and was called Miss Octopussy

PC

John Marshall too....WA jockey....was Bart's stable jockey in the 1980s...for that to happen you had to be good. Bart liked quiet, patient jockeys...same personality as him.

John Marshall was born in WA. His father Jack Marshall won a Bunbury Cup. Sadly for Jack he was killed in a race fall.

John moved east when he was around 15 years old I think? John also rode in Hong Kong and Japan too.

Just shows that our WA jockeys can more than hold thier own on the national stage and international stage too.

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Thunderstruck said:

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:

I reckon you suggested about 10 and didn't get close :P

Just about all were comments not win suggestions however my Each Way special posted was in Adelaide and after missing the start over 1100 ran third and paid $5.30

PC

In terms of WA jockeys: Bart won 246 G1s:

* John Marshall won 27

* John Miller won 7

* Damien Oliver won 4

SLIPPERGOLDEN

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:

Do you recall Dom Tourneur riding in the Cup? Might follow him at Morphetville for nostalgia sake. R9 Viduka at 20s down in grade is a great each way investment and is one of of numerous chances. He could bag at least 3  

After missing the start over 1100 Viduka ran third and paid $5.30

Dom 1 winner  1 second  3 thirds

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Gilgamesh said:

Anyone know what weight Hollie Doyle gets around at???

She made Britt and Michelle Payne look like giants!

She raced at Sandown Park Dogs in the evening  ;))

thefalcon

^ not nice, slip... [-X

see nifty got his usual paid trip to melbourne. but why take son brad along for the ride with world-class jocks sitting in the jocks room...including goat!

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Dogs because little and thin.

Voodoo

Markovina, obviously you are aware Sestich also loved to have a punt when he was riding as well and agree he was a good money rider who also demanded a good sling for it.

Would struggle to find a jock who hasn't had a bet whilst riding.

Voodoo

Voodoo said:

Markovina, obviously you are aware Sestich also loved to have a punt when he was riding as well and agree he was a good money rider who also demanded a good sling for it.

Would struggle to find a jock who hasn't had a bet whilst riding.

Rumored to have a punt should have said.......