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Caulfield Cup 21 October 2023.
East Coast Racing
Thunderstruck
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Gold Trip has accepted and Ben Melham nabs the ride.
He has postponed his suspension apparently, this practice i thought they had nipped the bud clearly not.
Barrier draw is on in a couple of hours.
None are even double figure odds i dont think but I may back 3 horses.
1.Gold Trip is a huge chance even with topweight, just hope he draws well.
2.Soulcombe, he is going great guns and 3.Without A Fight who was terriffic first up, haven't seen his peak yet I reckon.
Tempted to back that one that ran second to Gold Trip(name escapes me just now)but it would be mainly to stop it winning :D.
Should be a cracking edition this year with easily half a dozen good winning chances.
He has postponed his suspension apparently, this practice i thought they had nipped the bud clearly not.
Barrier draw is on in a couple of hours.
None are even double figure odds i dont think but I may back 3 horses.
1.Gold Trip is a huge chance even with topweight, just hope he draws well.
2.Soulcombe, he is going great guns and 3.Without A Fight who was terriffic first up, haven't seen his peak yet I reckon.
Tempted to back that one that ran second to Gold Trip(name escapes me just now)but it would be mainly to stop it winning :D.
Should be a cracking edition this year with easily half a dozen good winning chances.
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Gold Trip drew the same gate as last year is he going better? on the last run, id say yes.
Of the others in the market Barriers drawn are :
Without A Fight 7
Breakup 5
Montefilia 9
West Wind Blows 2
Soulcombe 6
Francesca Guardi 15
Waller was pretty bullish about Soulcombe when interviewed yesterday.
Lane was not that wrapped in gate 5, suggestions are West Wind Blows might get buried from his low gate(hope so lol)
I found one in R7 I like Waltz On By, her last run was huge and drawn better here I think she can roll the fav.
Don't worry about 0/5 at the track there have been excuses, her early runs were close up finishes in a B.D prelude and the finale when beaten under 3 lengths.
Is 2/3 at the trip and the other start was her last when beaten just 0.6L when charging late.
Also has saluted 3rd up in her last 2 preps..giddyup.
Waller had also declared Francesco would be favourite for Melbourne Cup after it wins the Caulfield Cup
It was not on Tuesday just gone that's for sure.He clearly suggested his top seed is Soulcombe who "is at the right distance now to do something special" he said it I heard it :D
Chrisso as his friends call him is not an over the top spruiker of his horses imo.
He did suggest the other two could win without surprising.Francesca is drawn poorly and will concede good turn of foot horses maybe too much ground imo. Montefilia has won just 1 of her last 13 and winning 2 in a row isn't something she does, however probably has sufficient class if somehow she had another "on" day so soon.
I'll be very sursprised if the Duke beats the topweighted stablemate home..where do you think he can or will position in the run?
Lastly, i hope United Nations gets a run(scratch the Duke Ciaron haha), it would be good to see Carleen Hefel have a ride..I would actually have a spec on that runner if it starts.
I saw odds of $201 on Bet365 and $151 on Sportsbet last week for United Nations in regards to the Melbourne Cup. Ran 2nd in the G2 Herbert Power Stakes last week.
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Lightweight chance he could be.
Is 45th in the order of entry so will need to win something of a qualifying nature to get a run, maybe too late for this year and a 2024 prospect?
He probably had to win the Herbert Power, and get a weight penalty to make a significant move up the Melbourne Cup Order of Entry. But even then he might of still been outside the top 24 (before attrition rate).
But who knows.. between now and Cup day the attrition rate might kick in. Have to wait and see.
Yeh I see that now, originally yesterday they said he would be riding in the Cox Plate.
Know what he is riding in the big one? It is a fair sacrifice to make.
Thunderstruck said:When did he say that Slip?
It was not on Tuesday just gone that's for sure.He clearly suggested his top seed is Soulcombe
Quoted on Foxtel show That's Racing aired Wednesday. Tongue in cheek response to a question perhaps? One way or another obviously pleased with the horse's progress. On the same show was an interview with one of the part owners (plenty of them) of Soulcombe
17 horses have attempted to win the Caulfield Cup with 58.5kg or more since 1972 - when metric weights were first used.
Hyperno (2nd with 59kg, 1980) is the best result. Anthony Van Dyke (2nd with 58.5kg, 2020), Kingston Town (3rd with 60kg, 1980) and Gunsynd (3rd with 62kg, 1972) were the others to place.
Since 1993, only two horses have run in the Caulfield Cup with at least 58.5kg - Subzero (12th, 1993) and Anthony Van Dyke (2nd, 2020)
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United Nations - in
If the Duke runs top 4 I'll eat it .. :P
Why is GT doubtful? Still conjecture about the track? Maher is trying to coerce ole mate track guy to chuck an extra 3 mill of water on..do it!
Good to see the emergency get a run..at those huge odds I'll be having something on..it will probably beat the Duke home too haha.
PC .. Northerly won with 58 only half a keg less and 2400 was probably his limit.
GT has earnt the weight and shat in over 2 miles with 57.5 and arguably is in better nick now..those who disregard him are doing so at their own peril.
Jmac mate.
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All in all a fascinating edition.I honestly can see GT getting all the favours(which he will need with 58.5), only downer is Zahra isn't on.Though Melham also has a devil may care attitude in the pigskin.
I won't he doubting Gold Trip. I'm just saying that a horse carrying 58.5kg (or more) in a Caulfield Cup - its still a difficult assignment.
He has certainly earned that weight as well.
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