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  • LETSDOTHISLETSDOTHIS    313 posts
    Think it will never become permanent because you will lose over east turnover as the meeting starts at 6 over there
  • RodentRodent    7,268 posts
    PC said:

    Flanders said:

     Australian racing has become obssessed with speed....sprinting. the 1990s for example...great era at 1600m+.....

    I've been vocal on social media about Aussie racing for years and of course I get shot down the "Great Defenders of Australian Racing" as I call them...but honestly they are in denial.

    Anyway it is what it is.

     Just watching a 2000m 2yo maiden at Tokyo. Non existent here.
  • JimmyPopJimmyPop    351 posts
    PC said:

    Flanders said:

    Probably not relevant but perhaps it is also a sign of Bob's drop off locally. In the past, he has always had one or two promising types heading into the mix, especially targeting the Kingston Town / Northerly.


    As Gilga may have implied, there are plenty of group 1 races in name only. 

    Far too many G1s in NSW and VIC now. The fact that we now use terms like "genuine Group 1" tells you that it has gone to pot. It either is a G1 or it is not.



    There's far too many Group 1 races Australia wide. Full stop. The current Australian racing model (past decade at least) is in my opinion poor.

    Then there is these pop up races....these pop up races for example....The Gong....worth $1 million. The Gold Rush. The Golden Eagle. Just on and on and on.

    Australian racing seriously needs a major overhaul. One Governing Body to oversee all states/territories. Railway Stakes - a time-honoured race ..lots of history ..but it hasn't been a Group 1 race for years. Sad actually.

    But that's just the tip of the iceberg what I've said above. Another issue - Australian racing isn't strong at 1600m+ in terms of depth in numbers for years and years....again that's sad. Australian racing has become obssessed with speed....sprinting. the 1990s for example...great era at 1600m+.....

    I've been vocal on social media about Aussie racing for years and of course I get shot down the "Great Defenders of Australian Racing" as I call them...but honestly they are in denial.

    Anyway it is what it is.
    Brilliant post, you are spot on PC
    One governing body overseeing racing is well overdue but I don't think that will happen because humans cannot reason. There is too much of a "dog eat dog" mentality and then the bigger states crush the smaller states.
    Australian racing could be great but it never will be.
  • spinkingspinking    3,907 posts
    Someone must have forgotten to turn on the 600 meter timing equipment for the railway . No sectional on cris for the race

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  • ManchildManchild    777 posts
    You can get them On The races W A website.
  • ManchildManchild    777 posts
    They are not there , apologies 
  • tonytony    2,408 posts
    Looked to be down on last year as far as tote concerned and way down on eastern states (NSW and QLD) but no idea what fixed tote and corporate was.

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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    7,696 posts
    Fantastic to see the Parnhams and one of my fav horses Bustler win and with Stevie steering bloody well done to all..great day for the stable.
    Trix Of The Trade was deadset STIFF imo he should have run 2nd.

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  • spinkingspinking    3,907 posts
    Think TTT would have made it very interesting if he saw daylight. Absolutely bolting on straightening with nowhere to go. Sometimes that barrier can be a curse

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  • spinkingspinking    3,907 posts
    Mojo Rhythm was good as well . Held up at a crucial time

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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    8,108 posts
    Trix of the Trade could just about have won it and guess who I was on.

    Troy Turner and the rails and rails runs have never been a good combination.

    Yes brilliant day for Nev and even old Neufbosc ran a cheeky race.
  • goosegoose    1,637 posts
    H-BOMBER said:

    Karlis Karma $14 out to as much as $31+ late

    Must have lost 2 legs heading to the parade ring. And ran according. Another lesson in betting early in the day

    What was the issue there? went like a busted has it got injured just says slow to recover in stewards?
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,295 posts
    monster day for the parnhams considering nev and caroline are part owners of the 3 winners. $-)

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  • spinkingspinking    3,907 posts
    If I remember correctly pretty much the same for Kalis karma as lst year well supported in the market . And flopped in the race
  • FlandersFlanders    1,298 posts
    It was very noticeable that the crowd age was on the younger side. If estimate an average of late 20s.
  • ManchildManchild    777 posts
    Yeah the  crowd was younger, the ladies were scantily clad. I had a very sore neck this morning.

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  • PCPC    2,257 posts
    Rodent said:

    PC said:

    Flanders said:

     Australian racing has become obssessed with speed....sprinting. the 1990s for example...great era at 1600m+.....

    I've been vocal on social media about Aussie racing for years and of course I get shot down the "Great Defenders of Australian Racing" as I call them...but honestly they are in denial.

    Anyway it is what it is.

     Just watching a 2000m 2yo maiden at Tokyo. Non existent here.

    ..tha
    Rodent said:

    PC said:

    Flanders said:

     Australian racing has become obssessed with speed....sprinting. the 1990s for example...great era at 1600m+.....

    I've been vocal on social media about Aussie racing for years and of course I get shot down the "Great Defenders of Australian Racing" as I call them...but honestly they are in denial.

    Anyway it is what it is.

     Just watching a 2000m 2yo maiden at Tokyo. Non existent here.



    That's right
  • PCPC    2,257 posts
    JimmyPop said:

    PC said:

    Flanders said:

    Probably not relevant but perhaps it is also a sign of Bob's drop off locally. In the past, he has always had one or two promising types heading into the mix, especially targeting the Kingston Town / Northerly.


    As Gilga may have implied, there are plenty of group 1 races in name only. 

    Far too many G1s in NSW and VIC now. The fact that we now use terms like "genuine Group 1" tells you that it has gone to pot. It either is a G1 or it is not.



    There's far too many Group 1 races Australia wide. Full stop. The current Australian racing model (past decade at least) is in my opinion poor.

    Then there is these pop up races....these pop up races for example....The Gong....worth $1 million. The Gold Rush. The Golden Eagle. Just on and on and on.

    Australian racing seriously needs a major overhaul. One Governing Body to oversee all states/territories. Railway Stakes - a time-honoured race ..lots of history ..but it hasn't been a Group 1 race for years. Sad actually.

    But that's just the tip of the iceberg what I've said above. Another issue - Australian racing isn't strong at 1600m+ in terms of depth in numbers for years and years....again that's sad. Australian racing has become obssessed with speed....sprinting. the 1990s for example...great era at 1600m+.....

    I've been vocal on social media about Aussie racing for years and of course I get shot down the "Great Defenders of Australian Racing" as I call them...but honestly they are in denial.

    Anyway it is what it is.
    Brilliant post, you are spot on PC
    One governing body overseeing racing is well overdue but I don't think that will happen because humans cannot reason. There is too much of a "dog eat dog" mentality and then the bigger states crush the smaller states.
    Australian racing could be great but it never will be.



    Exactly.

    Equinox = too good in the Japan Cup. I loved getting the $1.70 that Bet365 were offering. Thank you very much.
  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    772 posts
    Anyone any idea on crowd
    attendance nos,not a bad idea with twilight meeting,but still a long day for some trainers .
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,295 posts
    not in the thread context but by God those japanese know how to breed a rachorse. his win was awesome.

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  • psychopsycho    738 posts
    GLAMOUR said:

    Anyone any idea on crowd
    attendance nos,not a bad idea with twilight meeting,but still a long day for some trainers .

    I'll have a crack at around 6 thousand, we need to remember there were plenty of people in the tents etc down near the 200m mark ? Not sure how many people those things hold. Obviously the late start and heat would have knocked the crowd back a fair bit I would say
  • ChrisChris    5,412 posts
    Good guess, 6,500 I was told

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  • AbbysAceAbbysAce    643 posts
    Turnover would have to be down, The Railway was ran at 9pm eastern states time,
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,295 posts
    ^ i bet it wouldn't have been down for the corporates. maybe up cos many would be alcohol motivated...i know that feeling well..
  • MuldoonMuldoon    432 posts
    spinking said:

    Someone must have forgotten to turn on the 600 meter timing equipment for the railway . No sectional on cris for the race

    Happens a lot
  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,473 posts
    AbbysAce said:

    Turnover would have to be down, The Railway was ran at 9pm eastern states time,




    Would be interested to see the numbers.

    I have a different take.

    Those that had a win on the day, most are definitely keeping it going at the late races, better than the normal Toowoomba, trot or dog offerings to justify a punt on the night, so it probably sucks more than a few in

    Those that lost might see it as an opportunity to get their money back......especially with a metro meeting, again to justify the means to an end "well I have more chance than dogs or trots"....

    At the end of the day, win or lose, the average punter in the street doesn't need much to justify a wager. I would have thought a "night" metro meeting for the ES folk would be catnip. But I'm not psychologist that's for sure.

    Plus the beers help too haha
  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    590 posts
    edited November 2023
    I think its more a case of one leads into another, syd leads to melb to bris to adelaide to perth. The merry go round of turnover.

    I didnt mind the late start time. I did a heap during the day, went out for lunch, finished up and came home for a full arvo racing. Its a hit.

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  • Precision1Precision1    555 posts
    Push ahead Pete V’Landys doesn’t let 40degrees get in the way of the races.  We drop races days prior and move the times of all races with a 39 degree forecast.  NSW wait until it’s 33degrees at 10am with a 40degree forecast to announce we will have extra hoses, push on.  


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