GP New YearsHarness & Greyhounds

Chopchop43

JayJay said:

So your saying that handicapping and programming haven't been raised on this forum as major contributing factors??? Have you not read the pages and pages of post from dozens of contributors both before and after their introduction in November 2018?

And your also saying that of the $15 million loss that Harness is currently running up per annum (and growing), Gloucester Park being responsible for 11 million of it places it in the "low hanging fruit department??? What the hell then are the high hanging fruit?

Get hold of the WACHRA submission and have a read of it. It identifies all of the varieties of fruit, both high and low hanging ....but to suggest that handicapping and programming "haven't been bought up as well" is living in an alternative universe.

not once did I say it hasn't been raised, it just hasn't been harped on as much as people have about gp, the high hanging fruits are thr handicapping and programing, maybe asking the question "where are all of our city class horses going" which I believe is a huge contributing factor as to why the fields Friday nights are falling away, horses hit there mark alot quicker with the hwoe system and are moved on just as quick, I dont believe fields falling away having nothing to do with people not wanting to race at gp, not that anyone has directly said that, but none the less I think there are bigger fish to fry than throwing shade at one track in particular

tony

Just on harness turnover the CEO of Racing Queensland was on radio this morning and said the turnover on the Interdominions was "only fair" and rather less than they were hoping fof.

Markovina

tony said:

Just on harness turnover the CEO of Racing Queensland was on radio this morning and said the turnover on the Interdominions was "only fair" and rather less than they were hoping fof.

Bit of a lame duck Inters series really  - and it basically supports my point - that Trotting Aust wide is really in the Doldrums - you have the gallops then the Greyhounds - then a distant 3rd and last being the Harness Racing , and when your in that situation you try crazy stuff like those 1200 metre races - even Tassie gave them a go 

So what do you do , Michael Radley made the point i heard him say it one of the interviews a poster put  up here , he said quote , Larger/bigger tracks over East have not been a Panacea for increased turnover 

Ok that is fair enough and Turnover is King , but at that point if he just came out and said we are keeping the 800 metre track , we will spend 500k approx  to radically improve the cambering , and to give the place a lick of paint and spruce up then ok 

But to waste 24 mill - knocking over Grandstands and building another new one , but in the words of Rocket , no one goes these days , so why would you waste that money . Even John Hawkes when he was slaying them in Sydney winning training  gallops premierships year in year out , he never use to go , just use to watch all his horses races in his home office 

I think that is what is pisssing most people off , wasting 24 million on some themepark in an age when no one goes

Like if they came out and said - like what that developer has done with the land adjacent to Belmont racecourse - building luxury units and town houses with sensational views of the river and racecourse - if GP said we are going to with the 24 mill build luxury units in the back straight where the planned new grandstand is going and we will sell them at a nice/tidy  profit ,in a very favourable sellers market  then very good 

But to waste 24 million doing up a tired old dump - when basically everyone agrees in this day and age no one goes , is just pure madness

warrenrobinson

No handicap no turnover no future

freodockers

Cant_Refuse said:

Gilgamesh said:

What would be the agenda though fellas? To want a successful/thriving/profitable metro club??

Is that a bad agenda??

Stopped by on the way through and numbers were looking great early. Kids activation area could have used a bit of work (but thst is always the case).

Hopefully all the restaurant/various catering packages were full to the brim and the club had a fill up.

More importantly hopefully those people enjoyed themselves, book in a few times during the year, take an interest and have a bet during the year, maybe even buy a leg in a horse.

Have to say Basil's family friendly fireworks were a hit, city was absolutely heaving.

Jar Jar definitely doesn’t want a thriving metropolitan club.

Ya missed this one did you clowns

Chopchop43

freodockers said:

Cant_Refuse said:

Gilgamesh said:

What would be the agenda though fellas? To want a successful/thriving/profitable metro club??

Is that a bad agenda??

Stopped by on the way through and numbers were looking great early. Kids activation area could have used a bit of work (but thst is always the case).

Hopefully all the restaurant/various catering packages were full to the brim and the club had a fill up.

More importantly hopefully those people enjoyed themselves, book in a few times during the year, take an interest and have a bet during the year, maybe even buy a leg in a horse.

Have to say Basil's family friendly fireworks were a hit, city was absolutely heaving.

Jar Jar definitely doesn’t want a thriving metropolitan club.

Ya missed this one did you clowns

for the love of christ that's what you wanted me to defend you geriatric sook I hardly think that's offensive it could of borderline been a typo, not even jayjay acknowledged it so why do I need to acknowledge it ?? Or is this some weird way of you trying to prove a point