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Just 1 im quite keen on Race 8 , Mares race number  7 Shes A Mare E/W @ $12

Liked its run 2 starts back at Northam , the Relatively Arma formline i think is sound , it broke 2 minutes and it didnt have a cosy pegs run 

And her trainer Lang Inwood i think he does a good job with the quality of the horses he gets ,he would have plenty in work  they race consistent and he consistently trains regular winners 
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,975 posts
    Vances winning salute/celebration that was funny that , exciting call by Ritchie before the celebration 
  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    114 posts
    Most probably a fine.
  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    511 posts
    Markovina said:

    Just 1 im quite keen on Race 8 , Mares race number  7 Shes A Mare E/W @ $12


    Liked its run 2 starts back at Northam , the Relatively Arma formline i think is sound , it broke 2 minutes and it didnt have a cosy pegs run 

    And her trainer Lang Inwood i think he does a good job with the quality of the horses he gets ,he would have plenty in work  they race consistent and he consistently trains regular winners 


    Brilliant =D>

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,763 posts
    Yes great tipping, stable is on fire, 6 of it's last 10 starters have got the choccies.

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  • sonnysonny    1,136 posts
    well done Marko..
  • JayJayJayJay    7,763 posts

    Most probably a fine.

    Rule 163 (A) 1 had a night off.
  • 2lifetimewinners2lifetimewinners    513 posts
    Combine no fine for the salute (i would be more than happy with an official warning) and the cases recently of a number of horse indiscretions during races that go not only unpunished but unseen the stewards in WA care ZERO for the harness racing industry and their flagrant DGAF attitude will lead to someone getting seriously hurt or heaven forbid worse.
  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,793 posts

    Combine no fine for the salute (i would be more than happy with an official warning) and the cases recently of a number of horse indiscretions during races that go not only unpunished but unseen the stewards in WA care ZERO for the harness racing industry and their flagrant DGAF attitude will lead to someone getting seriously hurt or heaven forbid worse.




    I liked the run of Rocknroll Elliot the other day but he broke under pressure late.

    SD6 1 trial.

    Goes around in trials and is asked to do absolutely nothing, yep thats satisfactory back to the races you come.

    Why bother sending it back to trials if you are going to deem that as satasfactory, should atleast have to be asked for an effort at some stage otherwise just give it a warning after the race mishap and move on
  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,975 posts
    I think the fair and reasonable thing with Vance salute is do what they do at times over East , a small fine but say suspended for 12 mths , so if he doesnt do a repeat of that in the next 12mths he doesnt have to pay the fine 

    Where the WA Trotting penalties are very light in my opinion , are prohibited substance breaches , a few years back  a WA Trots trainer got 12 mths for Cobalt , and i posted twice that he was damm lucky he wasnt based in NSW , because he would have got at least double that penalty , and the good old moderators  on this site deleted both my posts 

    Well in NSW this week Trots trainer Peter Tanti , 24 year involvement in Trotting , 2nd prohibited substance breach in that period being Cobalt over the threshold , and have guess what the penalty was - 3 years 9 months
  • westerncatwesterncat    29 posts
    Marko - guess you missed the cobalt positive in nsw two months ago that was just given a fine ????????‍♂️
  • OnTheBridleOnTheBridle    38 posts
    edited June 6
    Why should we penalise celebrations? Harness racing is already maligned for being a dim sport, so why must we strive to eliminate any potential entertainment/drawcard of the industry?

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  • sonnysonny    1,136 posts
    Hi On The Bridle.. Racing is not entertainment they bring bands for entertainment.. Better fields and competetive racing bring people..

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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    172 posts
    Racing is 100% entertainment, don't suck the fun out of industry by penalising the characters in the game for showing some level of emotion , getting crowds through the gates for all codes is already hard enough
  • LightningJakeLightningJake    11 posts

    Why should we penalise celebrations? Harness racing is already maligned for being a dim sport, so why must we strive to eliminate any potential entertainment/drawcard of the industry?

    Hi On The Bridle, 

    I'm sure most would not begrudge a celebration but IMHO there is a horse safety aspect. 

    Watch the replay.
     
    The rules state we must keep a rein in each hand at all times. The driver clearly crossed his reins into his left hand then wound his right arm in a big windmill fashion for many metres down the home straight and relinquished all mouth contact with the horse at the end of a race when a horse could conceivably be tired and needing a bit of rein contact for support.
    The second placed horse was wearing a shadow roll. It appears to get rather close to the windmilling arm. Lucky it didn't spook.

    Regards.
  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    172 posts
    The rein in each hand rule was created more so to stop drivers from placing the reins in one hand and applying the whip unnecessarily with the free hand rather than being a steering and safety issue
  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,975 posts

    Why should we penalise celebrations? Harness racing is already maligned for being a dim sport, so why must we strive to eliminate any potential entertainment/drawcard of the industry?

    Hi On The Bridle, 

    I'm sure most would not begrudge a celebration but IMHO there is a horse safety aspect. 

    Watch the replay.
     
    The rules state we must keep a rein in each hand at all times. The driver clearly crossed his reins into his left hand then wound his right arm in a big windmill fashion for many metres down the home straight and relinquished all mouth contact with the horse at the end of a race when a horse could conceivably be tired and needing a bit of rein contact for support.
    The second placed horse was wearing a shadow roll. It appears to get rather close to the windmilling arm. Lucky it didn't spook.

    Regards.
    That is all very true and correct re safety concerns

    But they are catchy names , back in the day was it Les Poyser who was known as The Rifleman , now weve got The Windmill Man - hah - hah - hah 

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  • BetonmeBetonme    213 posts
    Just to correct you Marko, Les Marriott was The Rifleman.

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  • sonnysonny    1,136 posts
    Hi Chop chop 43, If there was no betting there would be no one there..as it is hardly any one there now.. People dont go to races for entertainment,, maybe Iam wrong..
  • Rocket_ReignRocket_Reign    868 posts

    Why should we penalise celebrations? Harness racing is already maligned for being a dim sport, so why must we strive to eliminate any potential entertainment/drawcard of the industry?

    Hi On The Bridle, 

    I'm sure most would not begrudge a celebration but IMHO there is a horse safety aspect. 

    Watch the replay.
     
    The rules state we must keep a rein in each hand at all times. The driver clearly crossed his reins into his left hand then wound his right arm in a big windmill fashion for many metres down the home straight and relinquished all mouth contact with the horse at the end of a race when a horse could conceivably be tired and needing a bit of rein contact for support.
    The second placed horse was wearing a shadow roll. It appears to get rather close to the windmilling arm. Lucky it didn't spook.

    Regards.



    Hi Lightning Jake
    Bruce Whiteman used to do Trackwork with 1 arm
  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    114 posts
    If it's entertainment your looking for watch race 2 at GP =D>
  • sonnysonny    1,136 posts
    Thats not entertainment, Ha/ Ha..  Was funny to watch though... just stupidity from our top drivers..
  • sonnysonny    1,136 posts
    R3 Think the fav is unders Backed 6/7..


  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    172 posts
    Well call me old fashioned but I find racing entertaining or else I wouldn't be watching it , that's without even having a punt you'd find there would be plenty who enjoy it for the same reason, the characters in the industry keep it entertaining and a celebration like that gets a big thumbs up from me good on him for showing a bit of emotion
  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,793 posts
    Gee whiz package up tonights action and it is not a good sell for "come punt on harness racing".

    Jnr might as well have waved his arm at Maddison to signal come and take the lead off me.

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  • OnTheBridleOnTheBridle    38 posts
    sonny said:

    Hi On The Bridle.. Racing is not entertainment they bring bands for entertainment.. Better fields and competetive racing bring people..




    If not entertainment, what is it to you? Solely a fiscal generation exercise? This mindset cannot cauterise the bleeding stance of the industry, let alone grow it. The demographic of harness racing is its shortcoming for sustainability. We need to constructively implement innovative solutions, and punctuating the characters and personalities - which is a leading factor many in the sport suggest is their “favourite” thing about the industry - is a genuine reason for encouraging interest.
  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,793 posts

    sonny said:

    Hi On The Bridle.. Racing is not entertainment they bring bands for entertainment.. Better fields and competetive racing bring people..




    If not entertainment, what is it to you? Solely a fiscal generation exercise? This mindset cannot cauterise the bleeding stance of the industry, let alone grow it. The demographic of harness racing is its shortcoming for sustainability. We need to constructively implement innovative solutions, and punctuating the characters and personalities - which is a leading factor many in the sport suggest is their “favourite” thing about the industry - is a genuine reason for encouraging interest.



    Have to agree. Racing survives off the losing punter. If it isn't at least entertaining for them then they are gone.
  • sonnysonny    1,136 posts
    Hi On the Bridle, Most people who are watching races probably did not notice the celebrating of  the win by saluting. I bet on the trots because its easier to do the form...and have been involved since the early 70s.. The different opinions on this forum is great entertainment for me..
    What entertainment do you think will encourage people?? 
  • TimmyBeeTimmyBee    5 posts
    sonny said:

    Hi On the Bridle, Most people who are watching races probably did not notice the celebrating of  the win by saluting. I bet on the trots because its easier to do the form...and have been involved since the early 70s.. The different opinions on this forum is great entertainment for me..

    What entertainment do you think will encourage people?? 

    a W.Robinson vs M.Young UFC bout

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  • TimmyBeeTimmyBee    5 posts
    sonny said:

    Hi On the Bridle, Most people who are watching races probably did not notice the celebrating of  the win by saluting. I bet on the trots because its easier to do the form...and have been involved since the early 70s.. The different opinions on this forum is great entertainment for me..

    What entertainment do you think will encourage people?? 

    How about when drivers have a blue on the track, (I.e. race 2 last night Warwick vs Hall) when they come in they throw their helmets away and have a fist fight in the middle of the parade ring. Bit like the ice hockey in the USA.
  • Rocket_ReignRocket_Reign    868 posts
    edited June 8
    TimmyBee said:

    sonny said:

    Hi On the Bridle, Most people who are watching races probably did not notice the celebrating of  the win by saluting. I bet on the trots because its easier to do the form...and have been involved since the early 70s.. The different opinions on this forum is great entertainment for me..

    What entertainment do you think will encourage people?? 

    a W.Robinson vs M.Young UFC bout



    My money is on Matt
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