GP- John Higgins Memorial Final (L)Harness & Greyhounds

VillageKid

Race 1-   Winegum,  Bellezza Nera,  The Beaudster,  Eton Rock

Race 2-   Paul Edward,  Let It Linga,  Elwaddell,  Rocknroll Spirit

Race 3-   Arma Xfactor,  Strike Team,  Otis,  My Ultimate Baxter

Race 4-   Never Ending,  Mighty Conqueror,  Tenzing Bromac,  The Miki Taker

Race 5-   Vegas Strip,  Whataretheodds,  Hale Saint Louie,  Sorridere

Race 6-   Rubins Plight,  Solesseo Matuca,  Awaitinginstructions,  Whos The Dad

Race 7-   Bet The House,  Menemsha,  Artful Miki,  Petes Honour

Race 8-   Seven No Trumps,  Barbados,  Rodasi,  Johnny Lombo

Race 9-   Aardiebytheseaside,  Sista Sammy,  Three Rumours,  Sovrana

Race 10- Hold That Gold,  Stay Foucused,  Line The Starzzz,  Nickys Son

warrenrobinson

Race 7 Bet the House one of the best trials ever seen at Byford, MR 1.56.6. Best horse worst barrier still very hard to beat.

Markovina

 I wonder who  put up the odds on the AHR Site re the GP fields - must have been an ex West Aust newspaper form price bloke from way back 

Never Ending $8 ( hah ) actually its $2.20 

Haywire ( got a little bit excited , going to tip it but i havent ) $31 well no , its actually $3.60 in the real world 

Race 2 some shocking guesses here Elwaddell $2.70 , well actually it is $9.50 , same race Paul Edward $11 , well no its actually $3.10 

I wonder who it was who put thus early market estimate odds up for GP tonight , maybe theve got the old brandy or whisky bottle in the bottom drawer , and they had just a few too many sips

Chariotsonfire

Matt Young was doing a good job on the prices but has been away for a few weeks. I think Ollie Cownie may be doing them at present and he appears to struggle.

I will say that being first cab off the rank with the early prices is not an easy gig.

sonny

No ,Its not but. is not he a  pro punter??Or they his odds ??

warrenrobinson

No better driver in WA than Aiden De Campo.

Rocket_Reign

It’s not Oli it’s someone that works in the office, not a pro punter or anything like that

WestburnGrant

Hope you didn't take the unders on them all

Jasper

Great to see Sorridere win a good race, much deserved due to its consistency over its career. From memory it stretched Never Ending one night at GP when beaten by a small margin. Seems to be one of those horses that draws poorly a lot of the time too.
Looking forward to seeing what Never Ending can do at Menangle re point to point speed.

AbbysAce

Why wouldnt J Prentice pull Never Ending out at the 500?

If its that good surely it can still hit the line from there?

Ritchie Bell sums it up as they crossed the line? Nice trial 

Another non competitive, one goer FFA race. How can you promote the sport when this is the race that will be written about/ viewed by any new potenial punters.

What is the rule? You must drive your horse to get the best possible placing or words to that effect.

Markovina

Just doing the form at Northam tonight

Got to Race 6 , what caught my eye $568 in the Win Tote pool  - the no 1 horse Dannika its $151 fixed odds , but it is $1.04 on the Tote , someone has had a lazy/hazy  $500 a win on it , maybe they have backed the wrong horse 

Frog

Yes a great achievement to get a A class (metro) B class  (country) drivers licence off of 2 or so drives the year before, when needing 25 drives and 10 drives for A or B. This is why in WA some people get treated black and white and others get treated grey and this double standard leads some having good records on most things and others cop the difference. We would all be happy if everyone just followed the RULES of the land. ( written in black and white for everyone to see )

Someone needs to answer for the breaking of the rules and face the actions that come with it.

JayJay

The Camels Are On The Horizon.

Frog

Its not Justin its the industry, some how they give a 2 weeks discount on 5 weeks to a 3 months penalty. Than the appeals take 2 weeks its just a joke. Gets red off the appeals.

How good has the racing been the last few weeks. Noticed the turnover up on a couple off accounts.

Frog

I'm just saying rules are the rules for everyone and everyone happy. But if above pass mark.

There are are 43 people getting emails saying they don't meet minimum drives to keep there licence, so who has the power to brake the rules ??? There job must surely be up for question as if its the mines or roads and you don't have the right tickets your millions. How about the the owners who run behind them when a driver is not qualified to drive. Can they review the results and revise the results ???

LightningJake

Frog said:

Yes a great achievement to get a A class (metro) B class  (country) drivers licence off of 2 or so drives the year before, when needing 25 drives and 10 drives for A or B.

Yes, Frog, I agree with you re driving requirements and the inequality of renewals. I am a country based trainer. I had my C class driver's licence. I never aspired to race driving. Just wanted the opportunity to drive my own horses in a trial and to be able to pre-race warm-up my own horses the way I WANTED them warmed up. Now, I have to find a spare driver to pre-race warm-up for me if I can find one, as the population of racing drivers is that small these days there are often barely enough for an individual race meeting.
I did not satisfy the 10 drives a year so they happily refused to renew my C class drivers renewal, which I had held for 15 or so years. I even wrote a letter pleading my case but to no avail.
I only have a 2-3 horses at work these days. I can usually work those horses up good enough that they don't need a trial prior to racing, but if the did need a trial they would not need 10 in a year! A horse that trials just for the sake of trialling so that I can retain my licence is one that cannot earn $ for that effort. BUT, to make matters worse, that trial is counted as one of the 6 "starts" that horse is allowed to compete in, in any 28 day period, thereby further reducing that horses racing & therefore earning potential. It also takes me 2.5 - 3 hrs each way, to drive to a trial centre now that we don't have stand alone trials at country training centres. Another story in itself!!!
Not allowing me to renew my driving licence has had no material affect on the population of race drivers nor made races any safer or more competitive because I was never going to progress to a B class driver, but it gave me an extra arrow in my quiver as a trainer.
The industry is poorer for this rule change and yes JayJay "the camels are indeed on the horizon"
I'll retreat into my hole now
Regards :))

LightningJake

" I'll retreat into my hole now
Regards :))"

Should have read I'll retreat into my hole now :))
Regards

I am still learning how to post and edit on this forum so forgive my error as the laughing face emoticon was in the wrong place...

warrenrobinson

The grading of licenses has certainly not worked the figures state that. I agree the punter bets on leading drivers and trainers but it doesn't make up for the people we've lost over the years fact.

sonny

Hi Warren, I dont because they are most times unders.. I look for value ..Makes me more selective ion the races  I bet in.. Got to feel for LJ..He has put up a great case to deaf ears..

JayJay

Lightning Jake has made her case on here before re the driving license fiasco. It is a replay of the famous George James quip when security were removing a rowdy patron one night. "Instead of throwing them out mate, she should be throwing them in so the rest of us have got someone to talk to."

In apparently identifying a "problem", they have solved it by a heavy handed, poorly thought out solution that has driven/is driving much needed participants out of the game. I don't know the ins and outs of Justin's number of drives etc but if he hasn't met the criteria, then that is pretty black and white. The real question is who approved of a dispensation being afforded to him.

TimmyBee

JayJay said:

Lightning Jake has made her case on here before re the driving license fiasco. It is a replay of the famous George James quip when security were removing a rowdy patron one night. "Instead of throwing them out mate, she should be throwing them in so the rest of us have got someone to talk to."

In apparently identifying a "problem", they have solved it by a heavy handed, poorly thought out solution that has driven/is driving much needed participants out of the game. I don't know the ins and outs of Justin's number of drives etc but if he hasn't met the criteria, then that is pretty black and white. The real question is who approved of a dispensation being afforded to him.

how many trial drives did Justin have

Muldoon

LightningJake said:

Frog said:

Yes a great achievement to get a A class (metro) B class  (country) drivers licence off of 2 or so drives the year before, when needing 25 drives and 10 drives for A or B.

Yes, Frog, I agree with you re driving requirements and the inequality of renewals. I am a country based trainer. I had my C class driver's licence. I never aspired to race driving. Just wanted the opportunity to drive my own horses in a trial and to be able to pre-race warm-up my own horses the way I WANTED them warmed up. Now, I have to find a spare driver to pre-race warm-up for me if I can find one, as the population of racing drivers is that small these days there are often barely enough for an individual race meeting.
I did not satisfy the 10 drives a year so they happily refused to renew my C class drivers renewal, which I had held for 15 or so years. I even wrote a letter pleading my case but to no avail.
I only have a 2-3 horses at work these days. I can usually work those horses up good enough that they don't need a trial prior to racing, but if the did need a trial they would not need 10 in a year! A horse that trials just for the sake of trialling so that I can retain my licence is one that cannot earn $ for that effort. BUT, to make matters worse, that trial is counted as one of the 6 "starts" that horse is allowed to compete in, in any 28 day period, thereby further reducing that horses racing & therefore earning potential. It also takes me 2.5 - 3 hrs each way, to drive to a trial centre now that we don't have stand alone trials at country training centres. Another story in itself!!!
Not allowing me to renew my driving licence has had no material affect on the population of race drivers nor made races any safer or more competitive because I was never going to progress to a B class driver, but it gave me an extra arrow in my quiver as a trainer.
The industry is poorer for this rule change and yes JayJay "the camels are indeed on the horizon"
I'll retreat into my hole now
Regards :))

Cannot believe they waived off your letter of reasoning, sounds like they don't want hobby people in the industry

JayJay

Markovina said:

Just doing the form at Northam tonight

Got to Race 6 , what caught my eye $568 in the Win Tote pool  - the no 1 horse Dannika its $151 fixed odds , but it is $1.04 on the Tote , someone has had a lazy/hazy  $500 a win on it , maybe they have backed the wrong horse 

A couple of days early with Dannika on the two day back up, beaten a whisker.