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  • savethegamesavethegame    2,922 posts
    The fella would have been Warren Scott who actually was Trainer reinsman great fighter for country harness, for a time was president of Northam Harness, had ServiceStation in Coolgardie, he inadvertently opened the door for greyhound racing, with a member of parliament also definitely was committe man of W A C T A.

    Has been mentioned here probably under racing the Kalgoorlie sting regards delayed race broadcast 5 minutes after race had been run, Mark Ruly bookie said I knew it was a rort when a detective was trying put a large on.

    Just on Warren sure he went toe to toe with WATA, over different opinions, on harness.

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  • getthechangegetthechange    333 posts
    JayJay said:

    No, a decent question. Not entirely sure, will find out on Sunday but David Goulden, Brett Postans, Dennis Dale off the top of my head.  Not sure how many train from Gloucester Park.

    Kellerberrin trainers with starters at Kellerberrin 
    Dennis Dale - 2 starters
    David Goulden -  4 starters
    Tony Allington - 1 starter

    Mreredin - Brett Postans - 2 starters

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  • ArapahoArapaho    254 posts
    Yet Kellerberrin has 76 pacers going around at their meeting,

    While the heavily populated peel area where all the horses and trainers are supposed to be,
    have only  53 pacers going around on their doorstep at Pinjarra, the very next day.
    .
    Dont forget Pinjarra races for  more money in most races.

    To me that shows that participants, will go to where they think, they can earn,
     regardless of distance.

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,924 posts
    I noticed in the Issues Paper that they included Peel (which runs from south of Thomas Road Byford all the way down to Waroona) in arriving at their figure of 71.44% of all horses are domiciled in the Perth & Peel Region.

    What are the stand alone figures for each region? I imagine the "Perth" figure would be small in comparison to the Peel.

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,036 posts
    Arapaho said:

    Yet Kellerberrin has 76 pacers going around at their meeting,


    While the heavily populated peel area where all the horses and trainers are supposed to be,
    have only  53 pacers going around on their doorstep at Pinjarra, the very next day.
    .
    Dont forget Pinjarra races for  more money in most races.

    To me that shows that participants, will go to where they think, they can earn,
     regardless of distance.
    Your last sentence is spot on - they will go regardless of distance - if there is something attractive prizemoney wise , and if they think they can earn or win 

    Parkes Frid night 60k race - part of that excellent NSW Country Cup series with bonus conditions attached 

    And Parkes is 355 kilometres from Syd , yet J Grimson taking 2 their Swayzee , goes allright that horse $1mill won in prizemoney and a handy 2nd to Leap to Fame last start in the 400k Blacks a Fake , and his other horse Nerano also ran in the Blacks a Fake - yet he is making that 350k trip to Parkes 

    I think if WA Trots bothered to have an excellent similar Country Cups set up and you had say a 60k Geraldton Pacing Cup , and Geraldton is 400k from Perth , i think you would get a pretty slippery field , and better still because of that it might create plenty of interest and excitement , and just maybe more people interested in WA Harness Racing

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  • JasperJasper    46 posts
    We are going to Kelliberin because of the 100 year celebration and a desire to support the club (in a fairly minor way). Even the normal meetings are always a good day. I attended GP the other night and it was a little bit depressing as opposed to Kelleberin which will have a decent crowd and likely to be an excellent day. I suspect quite a few people will take their horses for the same reasons.

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,924 posts
    Precisely Jasper, win lose or draw, see you there.

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  • savethegamesavethegame    2,922 posts
    Jay Jay you will be tripping over RWWA
    Representatives congratulating Kellerberrin
    Committee

    CARRYING THERE HARNESS SLOGAN

    ""HARNESS THE RHYTHM.

    BUILD THE PROFILE OF HARNESS RACING

    INSTIL CONFIDENCE WITHIN INDUSTRY AND
    ENCOURAGE
    PARTICIPATION TO BROADER AUDIENCE .

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,924 posts
    Dark glasses and false moustache at the ready STG.

    However, the giveaway will be my break dancing when Gene Simmons bursts into song and my HROA tee shirt.

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  • tonytony    2,397 posts
    I seldom post in this section but had to laugh yesterday when I saw a twitter post from racing radio to the effect that GP chairmen was interviewed saying that there was an exiting development for GP.
    Played the item out of curiosity to discover that the exciting development was that the GO gurus had secured in the "Ladbrokes Ultimate Drivers Championship" in Wueensland next year, 
    :-*

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    178 posts
    A very comical post Tony.

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  • sonnysonny    1,206 posts
    Its been a circus for years Tony .. Clowns are doing their job very well.. 

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,924 posts
    The "Gloucester Park Gurus", whoever they may be, have apparently stumped up $20,000 to buy a slot in the Queensland Ultimate Harness Drivers Series. It may be actual GPHRC money but I wouldn't have thought so. I think from memory there are twenty races and the slot holder chooses their own driver and there is $100k for the winner. I imagine it is supporters of Jnr who are backing him in to win. 

    There is talk of Dexter Dunn and maybe Tim Tetrick competing. Doesn't seem to be a bad concept at all but hardly an "exciting development for GP", exciting for the chosen driver for sure and some exposure for WA Harness I suppose but fixing the sagging external wall or replacing a few washers on leaking toilet cisterns, pruning the few remaining roses or weeding the gardens, now that would be an exciting development for GP.

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    178 posts
    The GP Gurus and the GP Owners Association may have used money from the maintenance budget.
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  • Rocket_ReignRocket_Reign    894 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    The GP Gurus and the GP Owners Association may have used money from the maintenance budget.




    Nah we used our own money

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  • JayJayJayJay    7,924 posts
    Get away.
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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    2,920 posts
    edited September 21
    TimmyBee said:

    warrenrobinson said:

    Missing in Action one CEO.


    I asked someone the question there last night and apparently he was away due to a family incid ent.
    TimmyBee said:

    A bit harsh as his father who was 88 and lived in Newcastle passed away. hence the Vale Terry Radley race last night.

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,036 posts
    Thats where Cam Bown and Radley and a few other well remunerated Trotting administrators should be 

    And im talking Parkes NSW , official attendance last  night 4000 , and if you want proof of that watch a replay of race 6 and thats what the commentator said 

    That brilliant Carnival of Cups that NSW have got got , they had top class horses like Swayzee , however i am almost certain  they have a music concert afterwards or during - thats why they draw the big crowds 

    Thus Bunbury a few other WA Country clubs should do that 

    And you have to move with the times so what is stopping GP , now you have the nice weather and no competition from the football , say every 3 weeks have a combined Trots meeting , music concert , Trots are over by say 8.30-9 then the Music with the bands takes over , youve got all the restaurants and Bars open , the grandstands and grassed areas will accomodate plenty , have a big screen out in the middle of the track 

    NSW do that type of stuff , WA sit on their aarse and do nothing 

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  • TimmyBeeTimmyBee    10 posts
    Chariotsonfire said:

    TimmyBee said:

    warrenrobinson said:

    Missing in Action one CEO.


    I asked someone the question there last night and apparently he was away due to a family incid ent.
    TimmyBee said:

    A bit harsh as his father who was 88 and lived in Newcastle passed away. hence the Vale Terry Radley race last night.


    I’m sure there will be an apology issued

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  • savethegamesavethegame    2,922 posts
    edited September 21
    Ha Ha , if your Gene Simmons impersonation
    with your Robert Young doesn't work

    EXTINCTION IS NOT A OPTION
    WE WILL SAVE KELLA' AND ITS PAST
    THEN FOLLOWED BY A LA GEORGE STEWART
    GIVEM ANOTHER RALLY ON THE BELLS & DRUM

    Should get noticed..

    Tremendous Milestone Congrats for all concerned
    Seen first hand with a trotting club the lengths.
    volunteers go to put a season together let alone a 100.

    Told years ago Bill Whitfield won four races one night at Kalgoorlie, collecting his stakes he handed one winning stake back to the club secretary.

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  • JasperJasper    46 posts
    Just reading about the reduction in Vicbred bonuses (5k re first win)Wondering if we are heading that way once track rationalisations are completed (Dropped a mare at a stud yesterday and was impressed with the number of horses of all types that we saw there. Cant help but think if that will be the case in a few years)

    I have a Mare that is currently racing and although I had no plans to breed from her I did have cause to contemplate it yesterday. Back to my original stance now after seeing what is happening in Victoria.

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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,887 posts
    If we are looking to grow turnover I have an idea.

    What did we have 3 or 4 RWWA harness employees come down to GP for the Oaks barrier draw??? They can't be too busy - sounds like they have a bigger staff than BHP.

    How about we remove one, chanel that money into a harness odds compiler at tabtouch and start getting odds up 24hrs before a meeting - offer a decent product!!! It's not like you have to accept a bet at that time anyhow.

    Having previews with no odds in nonsense. We are not alone a catch the Vic preview some sat mor ings and its the same.

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  • sonnysonny    1,206 posts
    Hi Gilga, I think that they have no idea about framing a market.. Having said that its not an easy job.. but now if its incorrect they can/will  cut your bet.. They should employ ex bookmakers and learn.. Most of the employees probably struggle with %..Cut the % take and turnover will increase but its out of their hand for that..Now back to the form..
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  • AbbysAceAbbysAce    608 posts
    Remember, most punters who want to bet a decent amount , their accounts are heavily restricted .

    Only losing punters can get on or bowler accounts.
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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,887 posts
    sonny said:

    Hi Gilga, I think that they have no idea about framing a market.. Having said that its not an easy job.. but now if its incorrect they can/will  cut your bet.. They should employ ex bookmakers and learn.. Most of the employees probably struggle with %..Cut the % take and turnover will increase but its out of their hand for that..Now back to the form..




    Yes i'd definately be outscourcing for the position.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    193 posts
    It's funny everyone seems to throw up shade at gp for producing a large amount of short priced favourites , completely killing the interests of punters across the country from investing their hard earned into our industry, but if you look at last night at Northam it's clear to see gp isn't the only track to throw up such results
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  • JayJayJayJay    7,924 posts
    No matter where the races are held, it is the product that is broken. It is the product the punters aren't buying. Just 10% of overall turnover is what harness is generating.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    193 posts
    JayJay said:

    No matter where the races are held, it is the product that is broken. It is the product the punters aren't buying. Just 10% of overall turnover is what harness is generating.


    I 100% agree that was my point all along everyone was sitting there using gp as the only example of this, it's not the case it's a state wide thing
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    178 posts
    GP has the highest turnover and so it should but the problem is GP has the highest loss.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    193 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    GP has the highest turnover and so it should but the problem is GP has the highest loss.


    but in the grand scheme of things turnover across the board in this industry is putrid yes ??? What I'm saying is we all shit can gp when it comes to leader bias and short priced favourites, which intern turn people off punting , well it's not just gp serving up those results, it's a state wide issue predominantly on all the tighter tracks 850 metres or less
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