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G-Mac

Bushbookie said:

Nah , Malcolm Fraser the worst ever by a trillion miles , absolutely nothing happened in his 8 years running OZ . Thank God Hawke came along and got Australia working again .

Or the 1 year and 362 days of Tony Abbott. Where his own party, his own party, knifed him prior to him getting all of the benefits. Brutal bunch the Libs

Rodent

I'm sure people who buy and sell shares are trying to make money. It all boils down to whether Dutton had inside knowledge or not. There's zero evidence that he did and Labor only have a problem with it 17 years later? Talk about desperation.

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Labor are desperate and that is an understatement

Bushbookie

Know its got nothing to do with Federal politics but just a Qlder surfing Pay TV late on Sat night and come upon the WA state election on SKY News .Dont follow WA politics at all but Early results 2 hours in got Labor winning and getting %50 of vote . Every other State Labor struggling to hold on to even 30% of vote . Asking you West Aussie forumers why the Libs have collapsed since the Barnet days and will the labor 50% hold up for Albo in 2 months .

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Bushie the WA election was mickey mouse. Labour had a massive win last election due to Magoo McClown bumming up the covid scare. Liberals under staffed (as were many polling booths) Next WA election will be mighty closer.

Just on the booths being understaffed and massive queues plus votes can't be counted until Sunday..... Reason is a private firm were given the contract and task of employing staff and they duly stuffed it up by employing half the staff required at most.

Bushie forget the WA election impacting on the federal election. Labor have as much hope of winning as you and I winning lotto on the same draw and a landslide looms in my opinion.

SLIPPERGOLDEN

In addition Cook is a pitiful leader, Consistently lies. As the previous minister for health he achieved nothing and was woeful. Hospital ramping continues to increase and now under his state leadership. He is a jockey with the Napoleon syndrome. A non entity.

Just prior to the election he called American Vice President a knob. Yes that should augur well for future economic relations with the USA. Cook could not appear as a spit on the shadow of JG Vance. We know who the knob is Cook and it is not Vance.

G-Mac

JD Vance is an interesting character. His wife is Hindu and the daughter of Indian migrants. He was raised Evangelical but converted to Catholicism. His mother was a drug addict who had trouble raising him yet he opposes abortion and criticises "childlessness". He previously opposed Trump but now hangs on his every word. He served in the military as a photographer and then became a venture capitalist. He helped spread that BS story about Haitian migrants eating pet cats and dogs in Springfield Ohio. On meeting a President at war he treated him like an ungrateful child. The man makes no sense. Intriguing to say the least.

G-Mac

Rodent said:

I'm sure people who buy and sell shares are trying to make money. It all boils down to whether Dutton had inside knowledge or not. There's zero evidence that he did and Labor only have a problem with it 17 years later? Talk about desperation.

A mate of mine was part of the press gallery during the GFC. She said that both sides discussed bailouts freely because they recognised the importance and it shouldn't be a partisan issue. Seems from reports that Dutton is the only one who called his broker during the discussions. Allegedly

Rodent

G-Mac said:

JD Vance is an interesting character. He served in the military as a photographer 

I think "combat correspondent" might be more accurate.

Cullen Tiernan is a Democrat who served as a combat correspondent with JD Vance in Iraq.

But Cullen Tiernan, who served alongside JD Vance in Iraq as a fellow combat correspondent, told The Independent the role was not without danger.

 "“When we first landed, we got mortar and rockets from Baghdadi, the neighboring town. That was definitely a shock,” he said. “It’s odd to me that people would try to negate or put down what combat correspondents do. When you’re walking in patrol, or when you’re flying in a helicopter that goes into the sandstorm, or when you come upon an IED, and see people who have been blown up, you’re having the same exact experience. You just also have a camera and an obligation to document it.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-iraq-military-stolen-valor-b2621540.html

 

G-Mac

G-Mac

Not that I was wondering, but good to know where you cower, Rodent

Rodent

I don't cower. I just expose bull$hit artists.

meatpie

As a public affairs marine, I would attach to different units to get a sense of their daily routine," Vance wrote. "Sometimes I'd escort civilian press, but generally I'd take photos or write short stories about individual marines or their work."

Says it in his own words

Rodent

Yep, he said it, "generally".

meatpie

Vance was deployed to Iraq but didn’t experience combat

Vance spent six months in Iraq during his time with the Marines. His deployment began in August 2005 and ended in February 2006, the Marines spokesperson confirmed.

But Vance did not experience combat in Iraq and has not publicly claimed that he did. 

“I served in a combat zone. I never said that I saw a firefight myself, but I’ve always told the truth about my Marine Corps service,” Vance told reporters on Aug. 7, 2024, while defending his recent criticisms of Walz’s military record. 

Though Vance didn’t see combat as a military journalist, he was “in a war zone in a particularly bad year in Iraq,” Quil Lawrence, a veterans correspondent for NPR, said in early August 2024. 

Vance also wrote about his time in Iraq in “Hillbilly Elegy,” saying in part that he was “lucky to escape any real fighting.”

“As a public affairs marine, I would attach to different units to get a sense of their daily routine. Sometimes I’d escort civilian press, but generally I’d take photos or write short stories about individual marines or their work,” Vance wrote in his memoir. “Early in my deployment, I attached to a civil affairs unit to do community outreach. Civil affairs missions were typically considered more dangerous, as a small number of marines would venture into unprotected Iraqi territory to meet with locals.”

Cullen Tiernan, who served alongside Vance in Iraq as a fellow combat correspondent, also told The Independent that the role was not without danger.

“When we first landed, we got mortar and rockets from Baghdadi, the neighboring town. That was definitely a shock,” Tiernan told The Independent. “It’s odd to me that people would try to negate or put down what combat correspondents do. When you’re walking in patrol, or when you’re flying in a helicopter that goes into the sandstorm, or when you come upon an IED, and see people who have been blown up, you’re having the same exact experience. You just also have a camera and an obligation to document it.”

The full story, amazing how someone can take selective quotes to suit their narrative. Bit misleading dont you think.

Rodent

I thought calling him a military photographer was misleading. That's why I bought in,

G-Mac

Rodent said:

I thought calling him a military photographer was misleading. That's why I bought in,

Generally

I said JD Vance was intriguing given his background and gave a run down of what I have read. I had never heard of him before DT gave asked him to run with him as VP. You got defensive. That's where you cower, champ.

G-Mac

Rodent said:

I thought calling him a military photographer was misleading. That's why I bought in,

^:)^

Bushbookie

Albo should be absolute toast but Dutton somehow cant bury him . Greens and Teals in Polls just refusing to give LNP any preferences .

Bushbookie

Greens and Teals preference votes to decide election. Trumpism against Australia wrecking Duttons run in last month polling shows.

bookielover

Bushbookie said:

Greens and Teals preference votes to decide election. Trumpism against Australia wrecking Duttons run in last month polling shows.

Libs are running a shocking campaign. They are down 2% in the polls compared to their lead a few weeks ago, and Albozo is ahead of Dutton as preferred PM. 

Albozo has been a disaster as PM, combined with a useless treasurer who is spending the country into bankruptcy, and a total fwit in Chris Bowen. Yet, Dutton doesn't exude the confidence the public want to see in an alternative PM.

Combine that with similar policies on climate change cr@p, net zero etc, and people tend to stick with the devil they know. 

We had the worst ever premier here in Victoria in Dictator Dan Andrews. Our State is 180 billion in debt the worst of any state in Australia, projects which are billions over budget, yet he won3 terms. Why?because we had, a liberal party who were almost as left as Labour. In fact, they voted with the Government, to put in the Victorian constitution, to ban fracking for natural gas. So even if they win the next election, and under the new leadership they have elected they might, they can't frack for gas and are effectively tied to the farce of expensive renewables.

The Libs around Australia, tossed their conservative policies to the wind, and adopted labour light left wing policies, which meant that the public did not have an alternative to vote for. 

I personally don't reckon the Libs can win in their own right and we are headed for a labour green alliance. 

If you think the country is effectively rooted now, if my prediction comes to fruition, you ain't seen nothing yet. 

carey

I rest my case.

The previous post is why this forum is kaput.

Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.

Any thoughts on Yulong, anybody?

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Yulong? For the sake of Australia YULONG for the best result for the future of Australia

Relax Bookie Liberals are going to win comfortably

Bushbookie

Just looked up Fair odds , virtually $2.00 Labour or Liberals with 917,000 in pool . Roy Morgan poll out today on a 2 party preference base got Labor with a winning lead with 53% to Coalition 47% . If that holds up nation wide Labor will actually increase its majority . What I still cant work out is how Duttons farked it up since Xmas . I"ve voted Labor all my life but this election was voting Coalition for first time only because Albos our worst ever Labor leader of all time . My own polling in travelling to race meetings all over Eastern Australia is that every Green and Teal I talk to is itching to pay back Dutton on the Yes/ No referendum and will give their prefences to Labor to a man and women . Greens , Teals and Independant Voters to decide Australias future.

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Biggest mystery for me Bushie is why the Muslim vote is anti Labour when Labour are anti Jews and pro Palestine and Hamas. Ripley wouldn't believe that.  :-O  :-O :-O

carey

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:

Yulong? For the sake of Australia YULONG for the best result for the future of Australia

Relax Bookie Liberals are going to win comfortably

Bad post by me, but this non bettor developed an itch that needed scratching.

I just happened to notice the bottle green and white checked sleeves were winning everything.

Never knew one could win that way.

If JMac had the sit then better still.

As far as Libs are concerned, then you WERE probably right,

Not so sure now.

Hopefully, whoever wins does not have a majority.

Bushbookie

Be careful of Religious Votes Slipper , In the present Climate of what looks like a minority government , if the Muslims ever vote as a United group on Israel - Palestinian issues in certain seats they could hold the balance of Power here in Oz .

Chariotsonfire

Labor into favorites on Betfair. Surely Dutton cannot lose the unlosable.

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Bushbookie

Turnaround for Labor stems from the Day Trump got stuck into Albo and Australia on Tarrifs and ANZUS . On the Fair LNP in mid January got into $1.55 with Labor $2.80. Today Labor $1.92 and LNP $2.06. Has Trump saved Albo ???????.

SLIPPERGOLDEN

Has Trump saved Albo ???????.

:)) :)) :))

You may recall the saying Jesus Saves If he does then Dutton scores from the rebound.

Albo and the Labour twats were dead in the coffin already and now that last minute Bozo Budget by Snake Chalmers has buried them