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I've done my research into the situation over in qld and how they turned the sport around , why would I need to read any submission by any WA body , for a man who thinks facts and stat's are relievent its kind of funny too see you turn a blind eye to what I've present before, kind of stinks of pushing one's agenda. WA Harness had been stuck in the stone ages for far too long with too many people wanting little to no change that's the biggest issue the industry has. Racing on 700m tracks is completely outdated especially when we have a meeting composed entirely of standing start races ,where half of the 8 horse fields on far too many occasions didn't step, its a terrible look for the industry. Not to mention all the spruking of the attendances of said meeting, I've been told by a very very good source that a committee member of the club who is also a member of a very prominent harness racing family in the area , stated that attendance was actually pretty disappointing, now without actually talking to this person it could be a case of Chinese whispers , but regardless if it was in fact stated than its a bit of a concern for all those saying we don't in fact need to consider the closure of some of these tracks
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I mean I did clearly state it was something I got told and I dont know how much truth there was to it , and that if it was true its not a good thing for country racing , there's every conceivable chance that maybe things you said were taken out of context ,and your right I have no inclination of saying who told me they will just get tarred and feathered just like everyone else who aren't allowed to express opinion or fact on here.
. Yes you did and I appreciate that. Our industry people like to hear what they want to hear and then spread it. But rest assured, Busselton is having a great season :)
The issue with our industry is that it's that old saying "it shouldn't be me vs you, it should be me and you vs the problem". I have never experienced such a negative, gossip loving industry as ours and I worked in advertising for years. Everyone shitting on each other, everyone so happy to drag others down, everyone fighting for their own agenda instead of fighting as a team. I wish we'd celebrate each other more.
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nope no rumours just not even 3 weeks worth of data , I mean I'm sure all big business base decisions off such a small sample size yea ??? 100% agree KTQ unfortunately some people within the industry wants what's best for there pockets not what's best for the industry , and for anyone trying to present innovation or an idea based around solid facts and stat's that isn't in line with the agenda of a people who still think we are racing in the 70s and 80s , well those people are basically told they are dumb and have no idea , it's that sort of attitude which has gotten the industry into the predicament in the first place
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you don't present it ?? You wait for reasonable time period to pass before your present the argument, the average price per winner that your basing these stat's around is continually dropping proving what point ??
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what I find comical is people who base there ideas and views on what happened in those time periods , and yet here we are living in 2025 wondering why the industry is going backwards at the rate of knots , bring in the new blood with fresh ideas , before we revert back to standing starts and abolish the mobile and race around 600m goat tracks for ribbons
qld is going good and the business model they have used to turn the industry around over there can't be ignored
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I have no gripe with Busselton or country racing to that point I have fond memories as a kid helping my grandad who was the vice president of the Northam trots in the early 90s , stack the fridges etc before a meeting and watching nearly every meeting I possibly could, not to mention all the road trips to York, trayning, cunderdin etc, I grew up on country racing it was what helped create this passion I have to this day for the code. That being said I think now is the time to take the rose tinted glasses off and make some tough decisions in order to help the code survive and even turn the corner, the qld situation should give a good guide on what to do imo
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you can keep everyone in the loop week to week about the average price of winners as much as you want but doing it this early on is absolutely pointless your not proving anything , your correct about coles, woolies monitoring there sales that's an absolute given but do you think that they public release information weekly ?? They've probably also been running the same business model for a sustained period of time aswell unlike us. I also love the fact that when your on the backfoot with any discussion on this forum rather than be happy to agree to disagree like most you decide to try and get personal I'd like to think that we are all adults here hey ??
I've not once said that I want to see Busselton shut down, but do it and similar tracks need to be shut down to keep the industry kicking long term basically following the same model as qld which has proven rationalisation has worked ??? Possibly , and before you sit there and attempt to belittle the people that don't buy into your agenda , this isn't a great scenario for anyone that loves harness racing, we are in this situation because the industry and the people running it have failed to evolve it , would you rather the industry turn around in the long run or would you rather we just race for ribbons at Wagin??? Your spreadsheets wouldn't be looking too crash hot if that was the case
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might of helped people regain trust in the powers that be over there but stat's and figures show the change of business model has had a direct positive impact on turnover which is probably the best metric to measure success in this industry
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just out of curiosity wouldn't a better indication of whether or not the nr system is working turnover wise (all be it in such a small sample size) be the average price of each favourite, rather than average price each winner, I mean all good to have an ever shortening $6.11 average winners, but I feel from a punting point of view more people will invest there hard earned on races where there isn't a favourite in the red , hard to make the comparison with the gallops but I feel the reason people invest more frequently into them is the fact your not seeing as many $1.90 or less pops , I guess we'll only know once they have released turnover figures whether or not nr is really making a difference but yes great to see the jnrs get a fair crack
I mean last night's results kind of look very very familiar to what we are used to
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