New food at Belmont

TheDiva · May 2013

this is the point dungy....some people DO care about the food.
the attitude that no one cares, breeds mediocrity and that will creep in to other facets of the offering.
PR need to try harder in all areas...this is a good start.

RIO · May 2013

The Diva said:
this is the point dungy....some people DO care about the food.
the attitude that no one cares, breeds mediocrity and that will creep in to other facets of the offering.
PR need to try harder in all areas...this is a good start.

yep, let one area of service slip and it quickly becomes an acceptable level of compliance...keep everything sharp and as good as it can be....and that will become the level of compliance...PR needs to - and appears to be trying to - lift in all areas.

Small steps with things that are easily controlled and with a minimal expense and effort, they will slowly get a bit of traction....Just hope they don't stop and look at the mountain in front of them!! :O

Tivers · May 2013

Carlosa said:
I do love a big African sausage on a chilly Saturday afternoon!

Oh please, can I ?
Can I, can I please...?
:)

thefalcon · May 2013

tivs, i think carlosa has a spout...... :-O

Puntingmad · May 2013

The food today was , without a doubt, was a step forward.

hash · May 2013

looking fwd to trying out the terrace buffet on roma cup day, fingers crossed the quality is as good as the food (aswell as the setup and facilities etc) as it was at Ascot over summer..... :)

dungy · May 2013

hash said:
looking fwd to trying out the terrace buffet on roma cup day, fingers crossed the quality is as good as the food (aswell as the setup and facilities etc) as it was at Ascot over summer..... :)

Steak in a boittle Hashy thats all you need mate

Chris · May 2013

Any other reviews on the food? I searched urbanspoon but nothing ;)

dungy, although I agree it's not about the food I don't like money falling out of my wallet, nor do I like my horse staying the gates as they jump, and paying $10 for crap is exactly the same waste of money. If you're on the gas and you're there for the card you have to eat so it may as well be above par.

DamienWyer · May 2013

The return to Belmont was better than expected, as just over 1900 people came to the races.

RIO · May 2013

where do you get these figures from Damo??

Jordan · May 2013

Damo counts em all from his photos so should be very accurate ;)

DamienWyer · May 2013

They are not published, well not the figures I quote, as they are accurate. I don't think anyone at Perth Racing would be bothered enough to do a media release with crowd numbers for a non feature race day.

They staffed for a crowd of 1700, so a couple hundred extra patrons just pushed them ever so slightly, but not a big deal as nobody would complain with such a spread of people over the complex.

The business over the race day clerks is going to get messy before it gets any better. It can't be a lot of money they are asking for, when all other clubs have reached satisfactory arrangements.

RIO · May 2013

Damien Wyer said:
They are not published, well not the figures I quote, as they are accurate. I don't think anyone at Perth Racing would be bothered enough to do a media release with crowd numbers for a non feature race day.

They staffed for a crowd of 1700, so a couple hundred extra patrons just pushed them ever so slightly, but not a big deal as nobody would complain with such a spread of people over the complex.

The business over the race day clerks is going to get messy before it gets any better. It can't be a lot of money they are asking for, when all other clubs have reached satisfactory arrangements.

So you answer one question - the crowds...And then pop in another sly comment that i want to know more about. Oh before i go to that we talked about the size of the crowd for about 12.5 seconds..it was good and everyone was happy..but we found it too hard to put a number on it.

Now................ The race day clerks????? what is going on there that is so messy?

hash · May 2013

dungy said:

hash said:
looking fwd to trying out the terrace buffet on roma cup day, fingers crossed the quality is as good as the food (aswell as the setup and facilities etc) as it was at Ascot over summer..... :)
Steak in a boittle Hashy thats all you need mate

come again :-S steak in a bottle? i'd of had 6 beers by the time I get there, then I plan to tackle the buffet in between punting away a fortnights wage then enjoy the food some more and migrate onto the red

I do love the sound of steak in a bottle though.. wait is that the same as a protein shake :D

RIO · May 2013

think dungy was getting confused with the African Sausage in a bottle!!!! :-))

thefalcon · May 2013

there's a pork chop in every glass....

DamienWyer · May 2013

Just a few selected images from the opening day at Belmont, all shots taken from the carpark, but still some variety.

bookielover · May 2013

Hi Damien,
Will they let you take shots of the bookies ring?

RIO · May 2013

bookielover said:
Hi Damien,
Will they let you take shots of the bookies ring?

no...no..no..I know your new to the forum, but please dont ask that question..

Damien,the question has been answered. You DONT HAVE TO respond...but i'm sure you will... :-j :-)) :D

bookielover · May 2013

I note having actually opened my eyes and read what Damien wrote, that he took the photos from the car park.

So sorry Damien, obviously the powers that be don't want any publicity about Perth racing.
And sorry Rio.

:(

DamienWyer · May 2013

I can take some photo's inside, or at least permission was granted last year. It was prior to the meeting starting and I photographed Matt and his mate on their stand for something they needed in either corporate or internet use. I don't think I charged them but maybe Matt can refresh my memory, I honestly can't remember.

So if it was required I probably could do some work in there but the conditions would have to be approved by PR.

The question I would ask, is that it would need to be be done in a hurry as I understand the ring is disappearing and or shrinking ???

bookielover · May 2013

Speaking about Matt, I assume you are referring to Matt Rigby, bookmaker, what happened to the column I think it was him and maybe someone else used to write giving a race by race run down of what had happened at the previous Saturdays meeting with the betting and fluctuations.

Not only did I find it informative, but I used to follow the horses in their next start, that he said had been backed but had not performed up to expectations.

Mind you, Ian Lentons "show" is pretty good.

TheDiva · May 2013

Hi Bookielover....found that column a bit tedious to complete on my one day off a week. It was a great guide as to what had been backed and what had not however.
May bring back an abbreviated format in the coming months.

thefalcon · May 2013

"one day off...." =)) =))

bookielover · May 2013

I meant to comment on your last sentence, Damien.

When I was in Perth last year, there were 12 bookies working on locals, although Peter Bartlett was on holidays, and two were working on the interstate races.

As small as the ring is, its still better than Adelaide.

They only have 5 bookies working at Morphetville every Saturday, and for the last couple of Saturdays and this week, they invited two Victorian bookies to work, to try and bolster the ring, for their big meetings, but the two they invited are not what you would call big bettors.

The other thing I noticed, and I have already referred to it on this forum, is that there was a lot more cash in the Perth ring than in the Melbourne betting ring where I come from.

I also believe that there are a number of commission agents operating in Perth who represent Eastern States punters, at least they were there when I was there last year, and they are there because they can get on with your bookies and find it hard to get on in their local rings and with the Corporates.

I'm also reliably informed, and I have seen it myself that plunges are having a habit of coming off on the locals in Perth and that bookies have had a pretty rough time of it. So yes, the ring could shrink as a result of this. I have heard about a couple of bookies in Perth who have been hit hard, and let's face it, no one is immune from huge losses.

It's most unfortunate that times have changed to the point where the on-course bookmaker is finding difficult to make a living out of his/her trade.

Here in Melbourne, we have 4 bookies working at Melton Trots, and one bookie working on a couple of other trot meetings around the state. There are only two bookies working at the Meadows greyhounds and Sandown greyhounds normally only has one. In Sydney there are 4 working at Wentworth Park on Saturday night and only one on Friday night. That is the way it is and nothing will change it.

You don't have a bookie at Cannington, and Steve Mulhall only works occasionally at Gloucester Park.

I'm not a young bloke any more, and I'm sure that the bookies will still be working at the race track for as long as I'm on this earth. As for the trots and dogs, I'm not so sure.

I would love to see medical science progress beyond anything that we can imagine at this point in time, so that I can be around in 50 Years time to see if there is still a bookie at our race tracks.

bookielover · May 2013

Thanks for the reply Diva. I hope you do find the time in your busy schedule to write the column again.

I suppose you have read my previous post.

I hope you are hanging in there and not copping it up the clacker with some of the plonks that have been landed in Perth in recent months.

I really wonder if the Stewards are oblivious to what has been happening.

To clarify, what I mean by this, is that a horse will drift from 2.50 to 4.00 and run accordingly, and it is a horse that was expected to go close, and another horse in the same race, will be 8.00 into 4.40 and sh!t in. From what I can tell, there is no enquiry about the bad run or the plonk. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, best of luck on Saturday, and in the future. :)>-

DamienWyer · May 2013

My comment was tongue in cheek. But I was told three weeks ago, that one of the higher profile bookmakers was about to call it quits. It would appear that the informant may have been wrong but where there is smoke.........

The commission agents placing bets in Perth I am told, have an amazing strike rate, and it is hurting the locals. Of course they could just decline to take the bet, I assume that is not against their licence to operate. Afterall it is what everyone complains about with the corporate's.

Fastmoney · May 2013

Corporates and Player

thefalcon · May 2013

damien, the local bookies could always ask for cash and decline "on the nod" betting.

SPUDLEY · May 2013

Over here we don't actually have a bookies ring as we don't have enough, so it is more like a half circle all we need is PR to fence them in then we could call it a chicken run as they are not very game.

G'day Punter!

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