G'day Punter!

In this Discussion

Who's Online

0 Members & 23 Non Members

Tab Touch - Disgrace

West Australian Racing
SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,090 posts
After numerous attempts to log in with correct username and password received this message......After trying to It is not possible to log in to your account at present. This may be due to several failed login attempts

 Cost me nearly 1500 with bet I tried to place  and combined with closing betting when horses have not yet started loading into the barriers... You can **** Off. You have lost my business forever.

Comments

  • thefalconthefalcon    17,051 posts
    were you :!! ?
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,090 posts
    Not a drinker Falcon. On my worst night would have 2 glasses of wine. Completely sober and extremely annoyed.Perhaps the imbibing is at their end.
  • hashhash    7,034 posts
    what meeting, cause TAbtouch close betting on HK well before they've loaded

    usually here in Aus once that red light is on seconds before the gates open they suspend betting, but on HK races the betting is suspended well before that step
  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    6,090 posts
    edited April 2017
    UK Hash. Has happened on numerous occasions. Maybe it is when a trainee is on board. Sometimes missing a race can work in your favour but obvious frustration if you miss a result. I don't know why the log in issue last night as I never had a problem before and tried both desktop and tablet. Cost me so ergo the frustration with my earlier comment. Had the horse lost no issue of course. :D
  • JellJell    1,197 posts
    Time for my rant.

    They've lost me after today. Two times today, I tried to place a bet before the jump at Ascot and I get some error. Happened first before R5 and I just thought OK, it must be one of those things and my bet lost also, so was happy with that.

    Happened again before R7 when I was trying to get a decent bet on Bevel, what a coincidence, the same thing happened again. Only this time I was truly **** after Bevel gets up X(

    This is not the first time something like this has happened either. I'll be burning cash elsewhere from now on :-q
  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited April 2017
    They kid themselves that they have the best betting platform yet they have a website and phone app  that doesn`t update prices automatically.

    Add to that no multi cash out, no Quaddie cash out and falling further behind competitors in betting  innovation.

    Spuds at the wheel.

    hash, RIO, frenc11 likes this post.

  • TucoolTucool    126 posts
    should never happen.
  • ThumperThumper    807 posts
    Leaving your bets until just before they jump with any betting agency is risking. They are a lot less inclined to take your bet as it gives them no time to manage the book (not that many of them do TABtouch included). Unless they are trying to lay something you aren't guaranteed to get on.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    12,577 posts
    Thumper makes a good point, especially with the corporates on fixed odds. 
    Like my old bookie boss used to say to me when i was clerking... and you'd get a rush of money with 30secs to jump... "youve had 30 minutes to get on".

    well, these days... you've had two days to get on... why do you need to punt at the death? 
  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    May be wrong but Jell`s bet issue may have been a system error not a fixed odds bet rejection.
  • hashhash    7,034 posts
    Jell said:

    Time for my rant.

    They've lost me after today. Two times today, I tried to place a bet before the jump at Ascot and I get some error. Happened first before R5 and I just thought OK, it must be one of those things and my bet lost also, so was happy with that.

    what was the error?

    my new fav one not only with Tabtouch but others is where you want to back Winx at $2.50 go to place and confirm your bet at $2.50 then all of a sudden "odds have changed for this selection" red arrow pointing down shows it's into $2.30 now so you accept and place the bet only to go back to that same market seconds later and see they're still advertising $2.50!!

    Gilgamesh, jum, RIO likes this post.

  • hashhash    7,034 posts
    TheDiva said:

    Thumper makes a good point, especially with the corporates on fixed odds. 

    Like my old bookie boss used to say to me when i was clerking... and you'd get a rush of money with 30secs to jump... "youve had 30 minutes to get on".

    well, these days... you've had two days to get on... why do you need to punt at the death? 
    but we all know the real smart money doesn't go on until the last 5 minutes of betting, if waiting as long as possible means your going to be advantaged then so be it, the amount of times i've backed a horse (back in the day) on track as soon as the markets have opened up after correct for the previous only to have the bookie wind my price out as soon as he's written my bet!!! puts me off betting with smart alec's like that 
  • detonatordetonator    2,287 posts
    hash said:

    TheDiva said:

    Thumper makes a good point, especially with the corporates on fixed odds. 

    Like my old bookie boss used to say to me when i was clerking... and you'd get a rush of money with 30secs to jump... "youve had 30 minutes to get on".

    well, these days... you've had two days to get on... why do you need to punt at the death? 
    but we all know the real smart money doesn't go on until the last 5 minutes of betting, if waiting as long as possible means your going to be advantaged then so be it, the amount of times i've backed a horse (back in the day) on track as soon as the markets have opened up after correct for the previous only to have the bookie wind my price out as soon as he's written my bet!!! puts me off betting with smart alec's like that 

    Agree 100% with your last two post Hash.
    The smart money does come in the last 5 mins. This could well be bookies laying off etc.
    As a money follower, the price can change dramatically in the last 5 mins of betting.
    Nothing worse than to see your horse get beat, then see the flucs after the race to see one has been backed at the expense of yours.
    Another late betting factor for me is to wait till the jockey has left the mounting yard after getting his instructions. You can read into that one, what you may. ;)

    hash likes this post.

  • RodentRodent    5,678 posts
    I rarely bet early. Every time I do, it turns out I could've got a better price later with more information at my disposal. I can't remember having any luck with early bets.

    hash, runyon, detonator likes this post.

  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    TheDiva said:

    Thumper makes a good point, especially with the corporates on fixed odds. 

    Like my old bookie boss used to say to me when i was clerking... and you'd get a rush of money with 30secs to jump... "youve had 30 minutes to get on".

    well, these days... you've had two days to get on... why do you need to punt at the death? 
    Most punters bet late right on the jump its the norm 

    hash likes this post.

  • detonatordetonator    2,287 posts
    If you bet too early ie " All in" chasing the price, that can end up in heart ache as well.
    Royal Star in the Derby. OUCH !!!!
    All Too Hard in the Australian Guineas a few years ago. Had a cold apparently on the morning of the race. Hawkes werent prepared to risk it. Bookies would have cleaned up.
    Horse was fine the day after. Have my theory on that one too. Lol
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,510 posts
    Betting two days before the race into a tabtouch percentage of about 140%. Please. Also you are correct hash those so and so's make no mistake about it...if you go and put a decent sized bet ( into the 100s ) on a horse at say $6....if you get it accepted and I do mean if...can guarantee you it will be $5 that they accept at. Seen it happen time after time. Oh the odds firmed...balderdash. What you see and what you get are often two different things. Number of times had a decent place bet at around the $2 mark and bet accepted..alleluia...only trouble is comes back at $1.75. Bet fixed odds play the game fair boys.
  • hashhash    7,034 posts
    that's why you don't dive in to ridiculous odds in futures markets unless the odds are appealing

    the $2 or whatever she is for Winx all in to win the Cox Plate is poison odds as she might not even turn up (touchwood)

    on the other hand... although it was not guaranteed to run, the $13 in future markets for the WA Derby winner... now that was a steal  :x

    Winsumlosesum likes this post.

  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,510 posts
    Being kind on the 140% too...some early markets seen go up at 160%. Seriously cmmmmon. Let's all bet two days before the race at percentages that even Turkey ( the country with the worst takeout rate in the world ) would blush at. Betting live in the afl the other day one of the lines was $1.85 versus $1.79 now that is so laughable you should be ashamed to put those odds up.
  • hashhash    7,034 posts
    Rodent said:

    I rarely bet early. Every time I do, it turns out I could've got a better price later with more information at my disposal. I can't remember having any luck with early bets.

    the only time you will benefit from betting early is if your laying a horse
    too often you get amateurs willing to back a horse at any old price well before the big money goes on and take whatever price is available on the fair... lay it at the shorter quote and back it at the longer price before the jump and 9 times outta 10 you can have a risk free punt 

    Ridersonthestorm33 likes this post.

  • detonatordetonator    2,287 posts
    hash said:

    that's why you don't dive in to ridiculous odds in futures markets unless the odds are appealing


    the $2 or whatever she is for Winx all in to win the Cox Plate is poison odds as she might not even turn up (touchwood)

    on the other hand... although it was not guaranteed to run, the $13 in future markets for the WA Derby winner... now that was a steal  :x

    I was pretty happy with my $4.00 Royal Star 5 days out from the race. L-)
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,510 posts
    edited April 2017
    Unfortunately the average punter in tab land wouldn't know the different between a 160% market and a 110% market. Much to the tabs delight. ( That's why takeout rates are in the very small print. ) Many a punter has shown me a ticket proudly displaying $12 when its correct price when percentage comes down in most cases is about $16 or better. Of course though anybody can win betting into a market of 140-150%...just try doing it consistently. Tab fixed odds is run by suits kidding everybody with there 'Coles' specials that they are the punters friend. Forget the $50 'free' garbage how about having the balls to take a bet at offering price of $8 and actually confirm $8. Seen tab agents frustrated and ringing the tab up many a time...no wonder tab agents are unhappy and quitting...but that's another story. It's simple you bet fixed odds ( honour the price and honour the bet ) or you don't.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    12,577 posts

    Being kind on the 140% too...some early markets seen go up at 160%. Seriously cmmmmon. Let's all bet two days before the race at percentages that even Turkey ( the country with the worst takeout rate in the world ) would blush at. Betting live in the afl the other day one of the lines was $1.85 versus $1.79 now that is so laughable you should be ashamed to put those odds up.

    Please..... I have to pull you up there.
    All races at Albany went up in the 120's.
    All races caulfield went up in the 120's. (Today's meetings).
    Not sure where you're getting the 140's and 160s from? 

    Ngawyni likes this post.

  • JellJell    1,197 posts
    hash said:

    Jell said:

    Time for my rant.

    They've lost me after today. Two times today, I tried to place a bet before the jump at Ascot and I get some error. Happened first before R5 and I just thought OK, it must be one of those things and my bet lost also, so was happy with that.

    what was the error?

    my new fav one not only with Tabtouch but others is where you want to back Winx at $2.50 go to place and confirm your bet at $2.50 then all of a sudden "odds have changed for this selection" red arrow pointing down shows it's into $2.30 now so you accept and place the bet only to go back to that same market seconds later and see they're still advertising $2.50!!


    Some sort of " system error"

    If it was once then I might believe it, twice at the same time, hmmm :-?

    Not to mention odds drop when I sign in, I rarely use them but not I won't out of principle, I've closed my account.

    On the topic of betting early, saying you have all day to get your bet on is hogwash. Late money is king. I bet early only on Sportsbet markets since they're first up and usually lay off on betfair for small profits/free hit on something I do like.

    hash likes this post.

  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,510 posts
    edited April 2017
    Did do and flunk Maths 4 @Diva.
    However have seen them go up at high %. Even the Pacing Cup Final a little while back at GP first market went up at 138% that was without the emergencies included. Just think punters need to be more aware of % than what they are...and that's coming from a maths failure! Everyone has there own way of betting and if you can find a niche and profit betting into early markets that's great.
  • The_Real_PetermanThe_Real_Peterman    192 posts
    Wait until I tell you about my experience with a corporate bookie. I'll submit the appeal with the NT gaming comission after the weekend and then I'll spill :-\"
  • hashhash    7,034 posts
    do tell..... slow day in the media, need something to froth over till the weekend

    jum, detonator likes this post.

  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,510 posts
    Hey talking of %s...recall going to the casino awhile ago and was staggered to see two zeros on some of the roulette wheels! Now what's even more incredible punters putting there hard earned on! The casino already has an inhouse advantage...why oh why whether betting one dollar or a million dollars would you want to add to that advantage. Just 10 metres away tables with just one zero. Think the double zero tables were for the smaller bettors but even so...come in sucker.
  • TheDivaTheDiva    12,577 posts

    Did do and flunk Maths 4 @Diva.
    However have seen them go up at high %. Even the Pacing Cup Final a little while back at GP first market went up at 138% that was without the emergencies included. Just think punters need to be more aware of % than what they are...and that's coming from a maths failure! Everyone has there own way of betting and if you can find a niche and profit betting into early markets that's great.

    no thanks bro... did very well at Maths in high school and a degree in finance. 
    im telling you what the corporates go up most races, two days out and its not 160% Ill give you the tip. Bet 365 are the only ones up for Saturday's Ascot card. worst race (2yo) is 130% and the rest are between 126 and 128%. 
    Once the rest of them go up, that will only improve. 

    Ridersonthestorm33 likes this post.

  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,510 posts
    Haha not you @Diva....i meant I failed maths 4. I should have had an I in front of the did.
Sign In or Register to comment.