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CB Cox Stakes Saturday

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited December 2017
    Shocked if he goes around in both. That will be really putting the miles into him.

    Am leaning the ATA is his race...he's my knock for the Perth Cup! Ouch that's laying it down...think if Material Man and Pounamu get to the race in good form and draw reasonably well, then one at least will get over the top of Trap For Fools.

    Banking on the pressure going on further from home in the Cup, think they will keep him honest. Then again there's not a lot of depth! Am guessing Grey Lion is doubtful ?
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    who do you think will put the pressure on? 
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited December 2017
    Grey Lion if he arrives! Or possibly Shinta Mani ? Material Man maybe right on his hammer at the 600...or anything Danny Miller is riding!!

    Just banking on being a Perth Cup they won't let him get it too easy over the 2400.
  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,466 posts
    At the present rating, trap for fools for me gets in on the minimum in the cup if it's around 93/94+...with one race to go before the cup I guess it becomes a case of if they win what gives the biggest penalty for a win.

    If Pounomu runs with a 107 rating then all the other runners will be pretty much on the minimum....I don't see it running.....unless the race is a 100+ race or more??
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited December 2017
    If one or two of the fancied runners don't start why can't Gatting win it ? Think he's the knockout chance even if they do all run.

    After a 33/1 Railway Stakes winner and a 25/1 Kingston Town result , will be astounded if anything this time wins at over double figures...unless it's Dark Musket!
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I think he's out riders... scratched from the perth cup. 
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    Fair enough..had a feeling that maybe the case. Better wait and see how the field settles, but at this stage think it's between Pounamu and Material Man , just slightly ahead of Trap For Fools. But if he gets it easy up front...then it's game on.
  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Yes, was scratched from the KT with a hoof.
    Didn't recover in time, now in the paddock.

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  • RIORIO    14,892 posts

    or anything Danny Miller is riding!!

    Just banking on being a Perth Cup they won't let him get it too easy over the 2400.

    Your talking about a race that will be dominated by WA Jocks...you still confident that at least one of them will test their luck with more than 200m to the finish line???
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited December 2017
    What happened to the days whereby 50/1 - 100/1 bolters would dash away in front and spend their chips early...but ensuring the race was run at a frantic pace ?

    Can recall many a staying race with Max Simmonds calling and two or three hoops going ballistic in front and along way from home. Is it because there ( the horses not the hoops ) a more even bunch these days ?
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,290 posts
    I could comment but I won't. maybe carey can do it without upsetting anybody...
  • saxonsaxoffsaxonsaxoff    179 posts
    So we've got 8 going around in the ATA today and more than likely 7 in the Ted on Saturday assuming Trap for fools doesn't back up. Was nice of the handicapper not to accept our nomination for today, would of hated to see a field of 9 go around, just mayhem with that many runners in the field. :P

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  • RIORIO    14,892 posts
    hey SS...same her a few months back for a field that ended up with 6!!!! haha...argh, all about protecting the class ratings of these special races!!!!! hahahaha When it suits them..
  • saxonsaxoffsaxonsaxoff    179 posts
    RIO said:

    hey SS...same her a few months back for a field that ended up with 6!!!! haha...argh, all about protecting the class ratings of these special races!!!!! hahahaha When it suits them..

    Yeah I wonder what the magic number was. Superman fine with a 62 but 58 too low. Best part is no distance races for a horse with his rating around so can't start him anywhere else anyway. 
  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,785 posts
    The most inappropriately named race in Australia

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,290 posts
    sure is, be like Germany having "the hitler cup"....

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  • jumjum    3,554 posts

    The heading of this thread should be changed to

    " C B COX STAKES Saturday"

    In Protest of this disgraceful name change.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,785 posts
    Sometime in the early part of next year, a long running matter will be nearing completion that will irrespective of the outcome, make Perth Racing rather uncomfortable.
  • careycarey    6,387 posts
    TheDiva said:
    and why not.
    statistically horses win much more than they should off a very short time between runs.

    Sometime in the early part of next year, a long running matter will be nearing completion that will irrespective of the outcome, make Perth Racing rather uncomfortable.

    well what is it that will make them uncomfortable????

  • ChrisChris    5,410 posts
    Think Zarantz is right in this

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  • JellJell    1,202 posts
    I'll use this thread for the rest of the card as well, no point starting another thread.

    Bergio is massive odds in R3. Granted 1500m is a bit too short but I couldn't not have a go at those odds.
    He never fires first up but he always puts in a good second up run. This
    race is a raffle but worth a few bob EW.
  • JellJell    1,202 posts
    Trap For Fools scratched. I think Lucy just controls the race now and leads all the way.

    Although I have about as much interest in the race as the royal wedding :-q

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited December 2017
    A field of five plus Sunset Superman ( he might get some stakemoney - good on him! )

    Two Group 2 horses at best - Pounamu ( a Group One winner - fair enough ) Material Man yes can possibly make a for Group 2...the other four cmmmmmon. Seen much stronger York Cup fields.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited December 2017
    Well done to too Tabcorp for having the foresight and initiative to put a 20k Jackpot on a field of six. Good thinking boys.

    Now let's get this first four!!

    It's easy anchor Pounamu and Material Man either of them 1st and 2nd or 1st and 3rd. Leave Superman out completely. Then fill in the gaps...would think Zarantz a chance for second...Cosmic Storm 3rd or 4th...perhaps Dark Musket may put a little value in if could sneak third or fourth.

    Anything else ? Nope that's it. It's remarkable though how often something can still go wrong.
  • careycarey    6,387 posts
    an iteresting thing about this high quality race.

    if sunset superman was just starting out and had won a maiden last time then its rating would have been 62, the same as it is going into this race.

    they better hope to christ it doesn't run well or even the magic wand waver will struggle to justify g2 status.
    but but but then i just noticed that it has placed twice already in stakes grade.
    so maybe a maiden winner is up to this grade!
  • LendmefiftyLendmefifty    227 posts
    Cosmic Storm to win in my book. I think he has better tactical speed than Pounamu and there is no way in hell that there will be excessive speed on. I think Zarantz and Pounamu will fill the minors in no particular order. Field for 4th with the jackpot.

    Have backed Cosmic Storm into Classical Prince and Hostwin Pegasus (all win) and have a triffy with Hostwin Pegasus and West 54th 1st/2nd from the field in R8. I am quite concerned about Slik Sam though.

    Have I missed something about the name? Why are people not happy? 
  • rustyhrustyh    2,271 posts
    ~:> <:-P :-c :-bd
    Merry Christmas baby!!

    :> B-)

    RNoHorse
    1.7.RETOSONA
    2.1.PROCEEDWITHCAUTION
    3.4.BERGIO
    4.5.PATAPUS
    5.11.OMINOUS WARNING
    6.3.ZARANTZ
    7.5.MY GREEK BOY
    8.14.SLIK SAM.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,290 posts
    kama for changing the name? I think so...
  • udontknowudontknow    519 posts
    Only one I'm really interested in today

    Race 3 #1

    Win or lose either way you'll see me sizzle!!


    Material Man by 2L+ in the main race

    b-(
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