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Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
edited February 2019 Harness & Greyhounds
Interesting runner in the final race of the day - it was not even seven days ago when Tactile Sensation was placed at Pinjarra at 33/1 then backed up at GP on Friday night and rocked into third place, again at 33/1 on the back of two smart thinking drives.

Today the caravan rolls on to Williams, he's off the handicap mark of 60 metres from the stand and there's no 33/1, he's going around pre post at odds on!
4/7 - good luck taking those approximate odds.

Wouldn't go anywhere near at the price - however with that reinsman won't be backing anything to beat it either.
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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    Perfect drive - a placing at Pinjarra another at GP and a win at Williams in under a week - well done Peter Tilbrook - backed up by three outstanding drives.

    His ability to get ( average ) horses pinging away from the stand is uncanny. Not bad from the mobile either - one night at Northam had a horse outside of the backline behind the leader after 50 metres.
    Last night had Oneonthewood one out one back from the 20 metre mark in a blink or two.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    If he ever gets the very slow Three Kings into the placings again - then will say I've seen everything. Sat three back the pegs Friday night and shanghaied back faster than a dropped skool bag on a Friday afternoon.

    Drove something today at Williams that Bet365 had 200/1 - crikey he's behind some battlers along the way.

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  • ChariotsonfireChariotsonfire    2,829 posts
    Who would have thought that How Gouda She would have run odds on in any race let alone win t.
  • savethegamesavethegame    2,786 posts
    The battler&the hitchhiker whats your take on stands throughly enjoyed the ones of late at Busselton and thought the Northam cup was a beauty the variables a stand can throw up. were do they sit on our landscape .and are they a true handicapping barometer or does top aggressive drivers Lewis suvaljko voak worth 10metres

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    Kirrabella and Billy Bong were second and third favourites - that says something.
    Also not forgetting bookmakers throughout the universe underprice every gate one runner.

    Often take on gate one favourites in NZ - mostly massive size tracks - 4 or 5 different leaders a race and often the 6/4 favourite from the one gate isn't one of them!

    Was interesting watching Wesley - gate 2 and Mr. Mojito from the car park draw - after half a lap hot fave Wesley was gone ( not his fault admittedly ) and Mr. Mojito was cruising.

    Often the draw doesn't equate to how the race is going to be run. Sometimes it does eg. James Butt. Any Svilicich runner in a race and you like the leader - beware that's for sure.

    She Could Be Good - jagged a first four recently with her when Mary Catherine won, that night was 50/1 driven a treat three back pegs and ran third in a small field.
    Comes into gate 1 and runs about 4/1...I mean seriously...and then as soon as heard wanting to hold the lead with Gotto Go Gabbana and others constantly pestering her thought really should be 25/1. She was gone along way from home at way under the odds.
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    VK not sure if saw Luis Alberto at Albany - was very well driven and looked in control but just on the point of the corner swinging for home - swear he had a think about it and thought was going to turn it up but Jocelyn Young was having none of that and fortunately kept him going.

    That was one race did read ok - knew Luis had no gate speed from inside back row and went with my gut feeling Miss Stonebrige ( Madeline Young ) drawn next to him in the eight might slot in behind the one horse and likely leader. To see that come off ( often it doesn't ) was good.

    He's definetly got tricks Luis Alberto - there's a smidgin of ability mixed in with that - but the Great Southern is his new stamping ground and where belongs for now anyway.

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  • ToepuntitToepuntit    241 posts

    Kirrabella and Billy Bong were second and third favourites - that says something.
    Also not forgetting bookmakers throughout the universe underprice every gate one runner.

    Often take on gate one favourites in NZ - mostly massive size tracks - 4 or 5 different leaders a race and often the 6/4 favourite from the one gate isn't one of them!

    Was interesting watching Wesley - gate 2 and Mr. Mojito from the car park draw - after half a lap hot fave Wesley was gone ( not his fault admittedly ) and Mr. Mojito was cruising.

    Often the draw doesn't equate to how the race is going to be run. Sometimes it does eg. James Butt. Any Svilicich runner in a race and you like the leader - beware that's for sure.

    She Could Be Good - jagged a first four recently with her when Mary Catherine won, that night was 50/1 driven a treat three back pegs and ran third in a small field.
    Comes into gate 1 and runs about 4/1...I mean seriously...and then as soon as heard wanting to hold the lead with Gotto Go Gabbana and others constantly pestering her thought really should be 25/1. She was gone along way from home at way under the odds.

    In regards to kirrabella, her last start was very good at Pinjarra when never saw daylight and climbing over them at the finish, a repeat of that should have seen her very competitive, but watching some of her replays looks like a rough going creature, something not quite right maybe, her early trials before spell and this prep was clean as a whistle gait wise,

    Looked reasonably clean at pinny but tough again today

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    Am all for stands stg and was happy with one of them last night - anchored JJs Smashwater Jack for third or fourth in first four betting with the main hopes Oneonthewood etc.

    Didn't realise G. Hall Jnr was driving so then thought might put an extra few cents on that, he drove him well ,followed the pegs and plodded into fourth spot. Was a bit worried in the run might run second but he's a battler. But a good battler, if he ever wins another race I'll buy him six carrots!

    Think the stands are great - remember that horse Salliwood ? No good at all in a mobile but she was a little standing start specialist.

    At the very least it's variety. Their for a certain type of horse and they deserve to be catered for. Think there was a trainer in Melbourne - Ryan it might have been - standing start specialist trainer - since the cessation hardly ever noticed him.

    Horses like Raymond Alexander, Compact Rocket, Bonsu ( don't tell Marko ) and dozens of others have been pretty good at it in their own kinda way.
    As said before they called the decision to drop the stands in Victoria "courageous" my take - weak and narrow minded.

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    Not sure if anyone saw the first and second take of the race at Albany the other night. Was amazed at the amount of support that came for Marrilyn Said after the first attempt - she looked in a bit of trouble early take one, couldnt lead and had run a reasonable distance in the breeze.

    Poor Just A Legend he was exhausted by the time they shaped up for the rerun - led the first time - gone two laps from home on the second take.
    The number two horse in the race was just the same. In a 2600 plus distance race they had now run about the equillvent of the Boston Marathon.

    The horse that hit the deck the first time Our Euphoria still ran! He was gone just after the blue light came on, and the eventual winner he had done no work in the first take - funny that.
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    Yeah that's true about Kirrabella need to see replay - only finished 7 metres from the winner at Pinjarra.The second horse in that race Shellwoods Chief or something ? That was a big run from the breeze. Don't think has started since.

    I had Kirrabella in first four betting and recall her being about three back the pegs, didn't have the Woodly drive for second, it just kept fighting on at about 50/1.
  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,275 posts

    VK not sure if saw Luis Alberto at Albany - was very well driven and looked in control but just on the point of the corner swinging for home - swear he had a think about it and thought was going to turn it up but Jocelyn Young was having none of that and fortunately kept him going.

    That was one race did read ok - knew Luis had no gate speed from inside back row and went with my gut feeling Miss Stonebrige ( Madeline Young ) drawn next to him in the eight might slot in behind the one horse and likely leader. To see that come off ( often it doesn't ) was good.

    He's definetly got tricks Luis Alberto - there's a smidgin of ability mixed in with that - but the Great Southern is his new stamping ground and where belongs for now anyway.

    Yes he did have a look around Riders but maybe the Albany winning post isnt as scary as the GP one is to Luis!!

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  • loose_gooseloose_goose    2,069 posts
    edited February 2019

    VK not sure if saw Luis Alberto at Albany - was very well driven and looked in control but just on the point of the corner swinging for home - swear he had a think about it and thought was going to turn it up but Jocelyn Young was having none of that and fortunately kept him going.

    That was one race did read ok - knew Luis had no gate speed from inside back row and went with my gut feeling Miss Stonebrige ( Madeline Young ) drawn next to him in the eight might slot in behind the one horse and likely leader. To see that come off ( often it doesn't ) was good.

    He's definetly got tricks Luis Alberto - there's a smidgin of ability mixed in with that - but the Great Southern is his new stamping ground and where belongs for now anyway.

    Not wrong there Riders, just watched the replay LA cruised to the lead by 3m, then back to a 1m on the corner as though he was waiting for them, and was mentioned in the call looked risky on the corner, but after straightening he was too good. Maybe he does not get around bends too good ?

    And speaking of a horse that does not like getting to the winning post 1st, Chers Magic Jet

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  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    Seen this happen before ( and in racing and greyhounds ) it just appeared he was waiting for them, only takes a second of lost concentration and can be game over.

    Probably can't hit the front too early on him. His gate speed away from the mobile is not flash.

    Don't see too many like him, but maybe the herd animal instinct clicks in and he just likes being with his mates. Wonder what he's like around the stable ?

    He looked strong on the line though and guess he'll be an Albany Cup contender and he may now get on a bit of a roll.
  • JayJayJayJay    7,629 posts

    Seen this happen before ( and in racing and greyhounds ) it just appeared he was waiting for them, only takes a second of lost concentration and can be game over.

    Probably can't hit the front too early on him. His gate speed away from the mobile is not flash.

    Don't see too many like him, but maybe the herd animal instinct clicks in and he just likes being with his mates. Wonder what he's like around the stable ?

    He looked strong on the line though and guess he'll be an Albany Cup contender and he may now get on a bit of a roll.

    He will have to wait until next year...Aldo and Naval Aviator have this years Albany Cup locked in the cabinet.
  • Ridersonthestorm33Ridersonthestorm33    10,809 posts
    edited February 2019
    Haha that's exactly what I meant - this one has already been run and won - end of January.
    Luis Alberto will be primed to win it in 2020.

    I remember last year's race well - Major Stare - he beat a dual Interdominion runner by a head - anybody know who that horse was ?

    Major Stare had to withstand a protest too.
  • VillageKidVillageKid    2,275 posts

    Haha that's exactly what I meant - this one has already been run and won - end of January.
    Luis Alberto will be primed to win it in 2020.

    I remember last year's race well - Major Stare - he beat a dual Interdominion runner by a head - anybody know who that horse was ?

    Major Stare had to withstand a protest too.

    Would that be Galactic Star Riders with HandsAndWheels finishing 3rd wasnt a bad field I must say!

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