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Re the wrong handicap- if i was the 2nd horse - id want 1stprize - and when we had that terrible episode ( happened about 10 times ) where the judge put the wrong numbers for the placings ( and TAB dividends were paid out on those errors ) the connections would advise the stewards and say -my horse actually ran 2nd not 3rd - and i expect to be paid 2nd prizemoney - and in every case they got it
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HARNESS STEWARDS INQUIRY RACE FOR ROSES
The Stewards have been notified by the Racing Office of a handicapping error in the Race For Roses at Gloucester Park on Friday 3 May, 2019.
A Stewards investigation will be undertaken and further advice provided in the near future.
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On Saturday 18 May 2019 RWWA Stewards opened an Inquiry into the
circumstances surrounding MISS SANGRIAL racing in Race 9 at Gloucester
Park on Friday 3 May 2019 starting from a 20 metre handicap.
Under the conditions of the ‘Level 9’ standing start race horses with
a HWOE of 55,000 to 69,999 are handicapped off 20 metres and horses
with a HWOE of 70,000 to 84,999 are handicapped off 30 metres.
The inquiry heard that MISS SANGRIAL had been nominated for the race
on Monday 29 April and was handicapped in the system at the 20m mark on
HWOE $66,163.50. MISS SANGRIAL then raced at Pinjarra that same day and
won $4,483.50, increasing its HWOE to $70,647.00.
The Harvey system automatically calculated the change to MISS
SANGRIAL’s HWOE however the system is not designed to automatically
re-handicap standing start marks. This is a manual task undertaken by
the Handicappers.
When preparing the field for the Race for Roses the Handicapper
failed to check if this horse had raced and won at the race meeting on
the Monday and therefore the 20m handicap mark applied at nomination was
not altered to reflect the recent win.
After hearing evidence from Trainer/Part Owner Michael Brennan and
Part Owner Michael Maxwell the Inquiry was adjourned to permit Stewards
to fully consider all relevant matters.
After carefully considering all evidence including the handicapping
conditions of the race, the evidence of the mare’s connections and the
race itself stewards disqualified MISS SANGRIAL from the Laurie Kennedy
Race For Roses Fillies and Mares SS Pace acting under HRR 64.
Mentioned it once before - Wayne Honan many many years ago had a horse called New Mexico - drew the front in a stand at HP - Doing the prelim - he said to the steward - my horse won a stand during the week - i think im on the wrong mark - the stewards promptly rehandicapped him to 10 metres - or it might have been 12 yards - thats how long ago it was
Maybe Brennan if he was aware that his horse after winning that race midweek ( thats why i ask is there a rule - and who the onus is on ) should have informed the stewards that his horse should start off 30 metres- or if the handicapper makes a mistake - thats the clubs fault - and the trainer doesnt have to become a quasi handicapper - to pick him up on his error
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Negligence
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Punter's who backed the winner all beer and skittles. If on the runner up - they are shafted. That's why the onus lies not on Miss Sangrial's connections but the people running the show.
Miss Sangrial still may have won - but try telling that to runner up punter's. Do they have a case ? Their wouldn't be a judge in the world that wouldn't say yes. But alas will never get that far and be swept under the carpet and then placed in the punter's shafted file cabinet.
No apologies above to punter's who were on others in the race ? No ? Funny that. There the least of their worries.
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Envisage having 1k ( inflation haha ) on Miss Sangrial and the driver or connections then saying "look stewards I should be back a further ten metres".
Rehandicapping a horse in preliminary. Oh seriously. Cmmmmmmmmon. They ( must have ) thought as little of punter's back then as they do now.
Next day - "mate I had a big bet on Miss Sangrial how did she go ?"
Reply " ran second - beaten a nose but was rehandicapped back ten metres in the prelim"
Silence.
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stuff up that should have been picked up but disagree with you that punters were shafted
Miss Sangrial was assessed by punters as being off 20m and she started from 20m so their assessment doesn`t change- if she had been down to start off 30m and punters had assessed her off 30m and then she had started from 20m then I would agree with you
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I'm missing the point : what mark did Miss Sangrial step from ? What mark should she have stepped from ?