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GLAMOURGLAMOUR    790 posts
West Australian Racing
After the Waroa Awards last night,with it being the last night, is there hoing yo he anything else simular,I think it's great,to have something like this as when do all Trainers,jockeys,and  owners  get a chance to relax.
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    I think RWWA will need to organise it, they do for the other codes i think.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,799 posts
    Are WAROA stepping away from holding the awards ?
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  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    790 posts
    Apparently of what I heard.wheather they are introducing a new event I don't know.
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  • RIORIO    14,892 posts
    WOW....WAOROA stepping away from the awards night!?!?!?! Gee maybe they might finally start taking up owners issues to the industry???

    Nah, that'd be a stupid suggestion...hahahaha
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,799 posts
    I am told that due to high costs of putting on the show, an ever decreasing amount of ticket sales, the decline into oblivion of the Owners magazine, that this year's event was the last. The chances of RWWA hosting on such a scale are just about nil, as they may struggle to have sufficient budget next year having already declined an opportunity to host a National Hall of Fame function, I am told.

    At best there may be a smaller scaled version with all three codes at smaller or Industry owned venue. It's worth remembering that Perth Racing could not afford to host their own night around six years ago, so they piggy backed off the involvement of Harvey Crossman, handing out their awards on the same evening as the Owners Association.

    The real losers of course will be the Red Kite Charity which has been the beneficiary of part monies raised on the evening.
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,499 posts
    As a WAROA member for the past 10 years or so I would like to see a couple of changes. To be honest, I'm happy to pay my $88 per year and get free entry out of it. The free entry extends to the "big" days as well. 

    Maybe a WAROA area at the races for members. Doesn't have to be big, similar to the "pr.com" lounge at Belmont in years gone by. The awards night is a great idea but it shouldn't be in the hands of WAROA to host a state awards night? More WAROA luncheons I think are a good idea, doesn't have to be in the top of the ivory tower either. 

    I think the bonus scheme is flawed and needs a review. Just my 2c
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  • ElitistElitist    366 posts
    I thought the WAROA pass doesn't gain entry on big days, and with Belmont being free this season, what does the pass actually do right now?
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,499 posts
    I've got entry to the railway last 3 years running. Just scan the card
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,799 posts
    Not that you can read it anywhere else, because nobody wants to talk about it, but the award for 2YO of the year went to a horse that couldn't win anything until it ran in an incredibly weak Sires Produce. The Karrakatta Plate winner at least won a maiden, then ran fourth in a Listed race before winning the feature race of the 2yo season. Tinsnip, the winner of the award, couldn't run past it and won probably one of the weakest group races held in the nation last season. I'm sure he is a lovely horse owned by lovely people, but why ?

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,330 posts
    who are the lovely people, Damien?
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,499 posts
    I must say that Tinsnip surprised me, wouldn't have been my first choice.
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  • RIORIO    14,892 posts
    thefalcon said:

    who are the lovely people, Damien?



    The Elsegood family.......same people who own the mare Mabel Grace.

    Congrats to them for having a nice one out of a really nice mare...Oh and the next one coming through aint too shabby either.....

    But 2yr old of teh season with 1 win!?!?!?!?!!?!
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,330 posts
    ^^ at least they are not in the "purple circle"....you know what I mean.. ;)

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    There ain't no check attached, so I wouldn't get too hung up about it..............
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,499 posts
    Nothing to do with the politics of a WA based sire in Snippetson? 2yo of the year sounds good on the resume if you want "an early type"

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Again, the award holds no status (no money for it, not noted on pedigree etc), so no, I don't think so.

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    On that note (local sires), I was (personally) chuffed to see with the 3yo award............... there were 6 nominations.
    Three of them were Bobs horses, and the other 3 were all Universal Rulers. (AR, LC & TVK).
    Of course they would have ranked 4th, 5th and 6th in the voting, but hey...........they were there.
    (Ties in with Damo's East v's West thread as well).

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  • RodentRodent    7,313 posts
    Maybe Tinsnip got 2yo of the year because he was the best 2yo? In the 2yo Grand Final, it wasn't his fault he drew barrier 16 and sat 4 deep the trip and was beaten a neck.

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    edited August 2019
    Had no idea that gatting was nominated for horse of the year..... only found out once i looked on the owners forum.

    As for waroa membership i think im going to pull up stumps. I only go when i have horses racing so its free anyway and unless it gives entry on the big days its not really usable for me

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    edited August 2019
    Had no idea myself.
    Another one that was 3 of Bobs horses, and Gatting
    (Again in voting would be 4th of 4  :)) )

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,799 posts
    How about Journalist of the year. Someone with skin in the game, said that the guy wrote one article, on a subject that had been widely known for three weeks and he never goes to the races. Nice old slap in the face for those that work directly in the Industry week in week out.

    These sort of decisions make a mockery of the process.


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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,799 posts
    paraletic said:

    Had no idea that gatting was nominated for horse of the year..... only found out once i looked on the owners forum.

    As for waroa membership i think im going to pull up stumps. I only go when i have horses racing so its free anyway and unless it gives entry on the big days its not really usable for me



    WAROA membership really only has a value in the card for free entry, so if they are doing that for all of Belmont, what is the value ? As an organisation, they are toothless. Never been anything more than party planners. The fees and overheads in running the organisation need closer scrutiny, which is in itself a joke of an idea as nothing in WA has ever been subject to that when it came to Thoroughbred Racing or the organisations that ran it.

    The mere idea of giving Owners a voice is laughable, as anyone who knows Perth, it's been a case of who you know rather than what you know for decades.

    Well it's all in the trash now.

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  • RIORIO    14,892 posts
    There is an inference on here that there is some sort of voting on the horse awards... I was a WAROA member for 5 or 6 years, and never got to vote on horses of the year??? So who votes on the awards?


    Tivers said:

    Had no idea myself.

    Another one that was 3 of Bobs horses, and Gatting
    (Again in voting would be 4th of 4  :)) )

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  • astroastro    5 posts
    Damien - it was feature article of the year, not journalist of the year. Big difference and if you are going to bag the decision, get the facts right.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,799 posts
    astro said:

    Damien - it was feature article of the year, not journalist of the year. Big difference and if you are going to bag the decision, get the facts right.

    oh please
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,799 posts
    RIO said:

    There is an inference on here that there is some sort of voting on the horse awards... I was a WAROA member for 5 or 6 years, and never got to vote on horses of the year??? So who votes on the awards?


    Tivers said:

    Had no idea myself.

    Another one that was 3 of Bobs horses, and Gatting
    (Again in voting would be 4th of 4  :)) )

    A Committee of one

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  • astroastro    5 posts
    Oh please is such a childish response. I'm done.
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  • RIORIO    14,892 posts
    astro said:

    Oh please is such a childish response. I'm done.



    5 posts and your done!!!!!!!! Resilience of a saturated piece of cardboard.....

    Thanks for dropping by ;-)

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Hahaha i actually dont know who got that journalist award tho, who won it? Someone please explain?
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,330 posts
    astro's pic looks exactly what he is..... :))

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