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Melbourne Cup 3.11.2020.
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Starting up a thread for the big race..any thoughts after the barrier draw and the horses racing on likely a good track(I'd love a soft 5 or preferably 6 as would a few others)?
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Think two other good ones at a price the galloping gasometer Finche at around 20/1 and at about 40/1 might need rain but was unlucky in the Caulfield Cup - Avilius.
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What penalty? What race did it win to attract a weight penalty?
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Nearly every replay I see of european 2400 metre wins/races I've noticed they clock around 2.33 as a minimum(am quoting good going races btw)and Van Dick ran 2.38 winning the Epsom Derby thats SLOW even in swahili language.I contest the theory they like to roll along some don't and also aren't contesting or winning fastrolling tempo races as far as I can tell.
More decent speed i reckon some of them blow a poofer valve not all but that's what makes it harder which will and which won't and is partly why I still stick with the locals more often..
Having said all that then the cup is more slowly run like last year, their imo better suited and fill 3 of the first 4 holes.
If VE is a knock with 55.5 so is AVD with 58.5 a half kilo swing won't make any or very minimal difference.
Same same if she is a query at 3200 so is he..I still see the mare beating him.
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Barring an 5% incline for a furlong(I jest a bit there)that Derby in particular is still quite slow to my eye..i did not however Google standard times there probably should or should have already.
Only as good as your last cup result right Falc?
Let's just say based on my bets and success last year i'm a good chance again so am bullish I'll be around the mark.
"Crash" Dettori isnt here this year is he? I owe him big-time.
Was just 11 starts ago that Surprise Baby ran 5th at 2/1 in a BM70 at Stawell over 1300m coming from 6th on the corner to run 5th...hoop Jordan Child's stated he feels the horse needs more ground.
Only three runs later won the Adelaide Cup over 3200.
*21s now but still too short and has gate 24 as well.
The Hotham Stakes, more often then not, is a 2nd or 3rd rate field. Horses who win the Hotham have run well in the Cup
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Waller is bullish about the beautiful mare and says analysts and other neville's which doubt her on a dry track have nfi..well he worded it a bit differently but in summary is not worried one bit :P
I'll be a bit cut already by 12 noon and will be channelling some Hewitt theatrics.. CMON!! Or Jarrad Lyle.
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