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If POA sits closer on top of that speed he wouldn't have finished as hard imo. Look at the time, the weight carried and to do it from the front? No excuses for those beaten. Tiger Moth had the cold sit and the 3kg weight pull couldn't sprint when needed but ground away and still nabbed 2nd. McEvoy had to break the rules to even get the horse interested.
Hope if he is well he does come back gave horses like Surprise Baby windburn and zoomed past Cameltoe etc etc...
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He would say that to get a horse fit for a melb cup it needs to run in races totalling xx kms (that prep). Does anyone know what this distance was? I keep on thinking its 20kms but maybe that seems too much??
therealkramer, paraletic likes this post.
He broke his own rule with So You Think(‘10) and the horse only ran 3rd :-?
The Euro trainers know how to do it. Red Cadeaux when within a pimple of winning the cup. With an ounce of luck, Il Paradiso wins last year. Interestingly, the trainer of Surprise Baby looks like he's given up that minimalist appraoch
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https://www.racingandsports.com/news/timeform/timeform-news/2020-11-09/timeform-recap-2020-vrc-classic/531848
therealkramer, thefalcon likes this post.
thanks for the info. I was looking at it in regards to Surprise Baby. He ran 3,600m. I know the poms and the irish do it different but bart won 12 cups with nz and aus bred horses so it seems completely stupid to me that his method be disregarded.
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Interested to see how he goes in the Zipping and if the full Autumn program Preusker has mentioned includes taking on the elite group 1 horses at 2000/2400.
Thunderstruck likes this post.
Can't hurt for him to go on board, don't know the circumstances was Willo punted? but Jordan Child's is yesterday's news clearly..
But Bart's method saw him win Cups when the internationals ran in it. The thing is that Bart's methods can work but trainers these days can't do it like him. There is a reason why these trainers now days are good to excellent and Bart was a freak.
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Most of our trainers in Australia can't train a stayer.