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He found it ok in the last. Welcome to the PTT forum by the way
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Plutocracy - he’s a goer, bit of guts and turn of foot, seen him run well often.
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Different story this week because his horse didn't get it all its own way.
Begs the question- why was the ride on Cockney Crew not questioned? First up. 1800m. Break-neck speed. Way faster than average speed. Horse never got a chance to figure. But thats ok???
The 4x 1800m races today all similar times.
Are the stewards asking that the favourite be left alone on a modest pace? Handing it the win?
Your an imbecile if you can honestly compare both races and rides! Cockney crew was ridden to its normal racing pattern and FYI Montelena didn’t win the race
Testing Love on the other hand was in that race to put pressure on the leader 1000m from the winning post to soften it up as much as possible to try benefit something back in the field to finish over the top
Would be a different story if the 2 horses booted away at the top of the straight and fought out a photo finish except one kicked on and was brave in defeat and the horse in question folded up like a deck chair and was tailed off 10 lengths last
Appreciate what you're saying but it's not like Testing Love went overly quick....
Out of the 4x 1800m races this was the slowest. If the horse folded up, maybe it just isn't as good as the 2nd horse but does that mean it wasn't given its chance to run well?
BTW the other 1800m races today (again, they were run faster)- the leading pair ran in the placings.
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Mate if you have some free time you could make a buck representing some of these fellas to get them outta the s*%t :D
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I have a great deal of respect for the panel this morning made up of Wes, Marty and Julio but if they think that shite from yesterday was fair game and/or nobody gets a spell on the pine for it then i think my time with horses here in WA is done for. To be honest i already have one foot out as it is, this could be the final push. Testing Love had one job yesterday and that was to slit the throat of the leader. I wish we all had the luxury of having 5 horses in a race so we could serve up a sacrificial lamb like that. My opinion only.
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Something you haven’t mentioned about that ride by Carberry yesterday is that the horse he was on has had 4 prior starts for a very good record, 2 wins and 2 second. Now in each of those races it’s not once tried to go to the lead, interesting tactic to go to the lead yesterday considering it’s done pretty bloody well without doing do before
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(a) So what you and DMac and the ~100 owners are saying is that Solaia should have been unchallenged in the lead?
(b) Was Testing Love ridden outside of its normal pattern? Last start it sat 4th over 1400m and won. It has had 4 starts... is that enough starts to confirm it's best racing pattern? Noting that it hasn't raced beyond 1400m until yesterdays 1800m.
(c) Just because Bob's horses usually race off pace doesn't mean they always will! There looked to be no pace in that race and the odds-on fave would surely lead. Why should they just hand it the race?
(d) The times (overall and sectional) don't justify the criticism. The only thing that justifies it is if you are dirty because you think Solaia should get its own way in front.
Is there a rule that states that there has to be a certain "pace" in the race?
A horse that controls the race from the front should be able to do exactly what it wants to try and win the race surely? If there is a safety issue with this, then it's up to stewards to act, either afterwards with fines for endangering participants or introduce a minimum pace requirement for horses finding the front.
I'm not a jockey, so all this might be BS. But if riding a slow pace is advantageous to your horses chances, that is competitive riding isn't it?
As for team riding, it should be called out no matter who you are. Not a good look yesterday at all. Could Lucy have done anything in response to the apparently tactic?
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Also interesting to note the owner of that one has been obliged to attend the hearing.
When was the last time an owner was called in as such ? (I can’t recall)
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