Peter Moody v Mcgowan

detonator · November 2021

Interesting reading on Pike in todays West re vaccine.

Lot of rumours about his stance on the vaccine apparently.

Still non the wiser ???

When Green Bay Packer Aaron Rogers was asked if he has been vaccinated his answer was “I have been immunised”. Hmmm

:-?

bookielover · November 2021

Meatpie,

As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't give a stuff if no one in Perth or WA, or any other state for that matter, was vaccinated.

My point, which obviously went over your head, is that my wife and I are both fully vaccinated, and will soon get our booster shots.

So, if we provide a negative covid test to your magnificent Premier and invisible chief health officer three days before arriving in Perth, show proof of vaccination upon arrival, and have another test three days after arrival, and, if required, tests every five days for the length of our stay, according to you, and those who "liked" your post, we are "self entitled" because we want to come to Perth to visit family and friends.

Only a warped mind would equate that desire with Trump.

JayJay · November 2021

BL, I believe that when you post a long political statement with sweeping assertions and errors, and constantly refer to emotive and incorrect nonsense under the banner of dictatorship, that it invites referencing to the biggest moron of our times in Trump.

The state of the parliament is entirely the result of the opposition putting up the most pathetic performance in the history of the Liberal Party. The public judged Mike Nahan to be utterly hopeless, the party then installed Liza Harvey who was probably less effective than Nahan, and then shortly before the election, the fundamentally conservative christian base of the Liberal Party (known colloquially as "the clan") replaced Harvey with a completely inexperienced and, as it turned out, totally inept young man in Zak Kirkup. The "mob" just wasn't ever going to wear such a divided and policy bereft bunch of under performers. There were some crazy announcements from Kirkup, uncosted, on energy that were never even run by the party and he famously waved the white flag and gave up prior to election day. It was farcical. McGowan hid nothing, his border policy before the election was there for all to see, and he confirmed that if re-elected, it would continue. There was no subterfuge, it is called democracy and the government was returned with unprecedented and probably never to be repeated majorities, including in seats never occupied by anyone other than Liberal or National members. All this talk of a "dictatorship" I will call out as absolute nonsense.

Other sweeping statements in your post...."Basing his Bulldust on false figures"????? "Does nothing for months to encourage people to get vaccinated"? Really?? I mean that is just totally false, something you would expect from Trump...."fake" news indeed.

'He's done zero for years" re hospitals??? An extra $1.9 Billion in the budget with a follow up extra $500 million are the facts but I concede that even that is insufficient given our hospitals are full of NDIS patients due to shortfalls in federal funding.

Other standouts include "He doesn't give a cr@P about families"? Just populist hyperbole really.

You mentioned Sky News as your preferred source of information about Margaret River, about as reputable as Fox and the likes of Bill OReilly in the USA....but I spent a week over there about 6 weeks ago. We went to wineries (chockablock), breweries (chockablock), restaurants (bookings a must), coffee bars (chockablock) and our accomodation iun town was "FULLY" booked. In fact the entire district was heaving with people, so I, from personal experience, find it difficult to reconcile your description of it being stuffed. Family have also been to Broome in the last month (absolutely heaving), I was up in the wheatbelt last week at Dalwalinu and Wongan Hills, hardly iconic tourist venues, and had to queue up outside Jenny's Bakery in Dalwalinu for lunch and it was the same story at Toodyay, some don't come on here pushing a particular line when you are far from conversant with the facts. Save it for some other site which deals in political debate. I regret having to post this but I was not going to sit by idly whilst you spread your particular brand of politics on a site that shouldn't have to deal with it. I respect totally your right to whatever views you hold....but just not on this forum.

Amyquil · November 2021

bookielover said:
Great post precision. McGowan is a goose. Based his bull dust on false figures. Does nothing for months to encourage people to get vaccinated in WA, so that they can open the borders to allow people who want to visit family can come home, but the hypocrite allows in footballers cricketers and anyone else on the basis that “ we need to entertain people”. Not only that, we all, if we want to come have to quarantine for 14 days. That’s fine with me, but why do the English test team only have to quarantine for five days. It’s hypocritical bull dust.

As far as the need for “ entertainment “, what a load of self serving cr@p. He’s been telling us that Western Australians are doing it easy. “No covid here”he says. “We can live our lives to the full.” And that’s great. But if that’s the case, you don’t, need any entertainment over there, we fkn need it here in Victoria and NSW where we have been locked down.

He’s worried that the hospitals won’t cope. That’s because he’s done zero for years to look after your medical systems.

Here’s a stat that puts a lie to the hospitals being overrun. In Victoria we have been averaging 1200 cases a day, yet our hospital admissions have continued to fall. We have 465 in hospital with 95 in ICU. Around 95% of those in ICU, decided in their finite wisdom not to get vaccinated. About 88% of the others also have either only had one shot, or no shots. And yes, there have been a few who have ended up in hospital even though they have been double vaccinated because of underlying medical conditions from which they suffer.

Prior to us getting to 80% double vaccinated, we had around 900 in hospital, but as those numbers hit 86%, people who are vaccinated are still getting the virus, the vaccine does not prevent that, but unless they suffer from major medical conditions, they get to quarantine at home like my niece who was double vaccinated, got the virus, felt mildly sick for two days, and sat home for the duration of the14 day quarantine, feeling great after the initial two days of mild illness.

If McGowan had got everyone double vaccinated, you are at 82% first vaccinated BUT only 68% double vaccinated, then families would be able to reconnect for Xmas. But he doesn’t give a cr@P about families. Yes, you will catch up eventually, but the damage done to families thus far, is incalculable.

One more thing. I saw a bloke on Sky News who runs a tourist business in Margaret River. They are stuffed and he has had to get his parents to put their 50 grand life savings into the business to keep him going.

We were coming over next Friday for the carnival and staying for four weeks. I reckon all up we would spend 20-25,000 on flights accomodation, car hire, food entertainment, and the government would earn money through the tax they would get on my punting. How many thousands of others would have done the same.

I read of one estimate that the WA economy, that is the shops , the tourist operators, other businesses, have lost over 2 billion in revenue.

Yes, a lot of you have been fortunate to lead a relatively safe life and have, other than on a few occasions , not been affected by covid or lockdown. But I guarantee you that there are a lot of you out there who are doing it tough, be it in business and by being unable to reconnect with families.

You can’t say anything, because when you live under a dictatorship as I do here in Victoria, and you do, and in your case you don’t even have an opposition in parliament, you shut up and cop it sweet until you can’t anymore and you would have seen the result of that frustration over here in Melbourne.

Hopefully the perth public and those most affected by the closed borders, will let your dictator know that enough is enough, that they are sick of his hypocrisy of one rule for the ordinary bloke, and not for the privileged, and test once you hit 80% double bay, he should open your borders.

All he has to do is say that if we want to come to perth, we have a covid test three days before we come and return a negative result, show upon landing that we are double vaccinated, and have another covid test three days after arrival.

Joe fkn difficult is that? Of course, such a decision takes commonsense, and if there is one thing that we all understand about politicians and common sense is that commonsense for them is not ver common.

Windbag, as usual

SLIPPERGOLDEN · November 2021

Interesting you ignorant twats bag Trump yet he had USA booming on all fronts prior to the rigged election.

Where is America now? Highest inflation in 30 years. Borders open to all and sundry plus intention to pay many of them 450K for being illegals who peddle the lethal Fentanyl and other drugs plus engage in trafficking children.

Biden and Harris are an embarrassment who couldn't manage a sports club let alone a country. The Democratic Party or better still the Fascists and Socialists have no idea but to ruin the USA.

First thing Biden did with a stroke of a pen (he is a big stroker) was cancel the Keystone XL gas pipeline wiping 15,000 jobs and then allowed Russia a pipeline in Europe. Now he is begging Opec for gas and petrol (12 times at last count) when Trump had USA more than self sufficient on that front. The only gas he has is the gas he released in front of Camilla Parker Bowles. So much for promoting clean air at the Glasgow conference... What a waste of time and money that was.

Oh and let's not start on the abysmal withdrawal from Afghanistan that has left many Americans and Afghani allies to suffer the consequences. So woeful was the Biden withdrawal tactic that he imported more Afghans into the USA including criminals than he did Americans.

Biden's family similar to Clintons are as corrupt as you can be and frankly Obama the worst USA president prior to Biden isn't that clean either.

Even neutrals can see how woeful and destructive the Democrats are in America.

America have lost all respect on the world stage. China and Russia see the USA as a joke.

I could highlight a multitude of other Trump benefits and frankly the sooner he or someone of his ilk takes control of the USA the quicker it can bounce back to the healthy financial state and power it used to be.

Thunderstruck · November 2021

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:
Interesting you ignorant twats bag Trump yet he had USA booming on all fronts prior to the rigged election.

Where is America now? Highest inflation in 30 years. Borders open to all and sundry plus intention to pay many of them 450K for being illegals who peddle the lethal Fentanyl and other drugs plus engage in trafficking children.

Biden and Harris are an embarrassment who couldn't manage a sports club let alone a country. The Democratic Party or better still the Fascists and Socialists have no idea but to ruin the USA.

First thing Biden did with a stroke of a pen (he is a big stroker) was cancel the Keystone XL gas pipeline wiping 15,000 jobs and then allowed Russia a pipeline in Europe. Now he is begging Opec for gas and petrol (12 times at last count) when Trump had USA more than self sufficient on that front. The only gas he has is the gas he released in front of Camilla Parker Bowles. So much for promoting clean air at the Glasgow conference... What a waste of time and money that was.

Oh and let's not start on the abysmal withdrawal from Afghanistan that has left many Americans and Afghani allies to suffer the consequences. So woeful was the Biden withdrawal tactic that he imported more Afghans into the USA including criminals than he did Americans.

Biden's family similar to Clintons are as corrupt as you can be and frankly Obama the worst USA president prior to Biden isn't that clean either.

Even neutrals can see how woeful and destructive the Democrats are in America.

America have lost all respect on the world stage. China and Russia see the USA as a joke.

I could highlight a multitude of other Trump benefits and frankly the sooner he or someone of his ilk takes control of the USA the quicker it can bounce back to the healthy financial state and power it used to be.

Well this explains a lot about you Slip i knew you were a diehard Lib and there is nothing so wrong with that persay(but JJ has rightly highlighted what a bunch of shambolic RETARDS they have been for years and oh yes Mike Nahan was that Yank even naturalised? LOL) but...

NOW you say your a Trump supporter WOW the mentality of Trump supporters actually scares me he is surely the biggest farkwit to grace planet earth(yes Biden is a dill too and that says a lot about Murikans who thought he was a far better option their basically all STUPID).

We have our own version of Trump the tool(sort of)a semi clone in fatboy Clive Palmer, could be wrong on this but nek minute you may say he is alright too... 8-}

carey · November 2021

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:
Interesting you ignorant twats bag Trump yet he had USA booming on all fronts prior to the rigged election.

Where is America now? Highest inflation in 30 years. Borders open to all and sundry plus intention to pay many of them 450K for being illegals who peddle the lethal Fentanyl and other drugs plus engage in trafficking children.

Biden and Harris are an embarrassment who couldn't manage a sports club let alone a country. The Democratic Party or better still the Fascists and Socialists have no idea but to ruin the USA.

First thing Biden did with a stroke of a pen (he is a big stroker) was cancel the Keystone XL gas pipeline wiping 15,000 jobs and then allowed Russia a pipeline in Europe. Now he is begging Opec for gas and petrol (12 times at last count) when Trump had USA more than self sufficient on that front. The only gas he has is the gas he released in front of Camilla Parker Bowles. So much for promoting clean air at the Glasgow conference... What a waste of time and money that was.

Oh and let's not start on the abysmal withdrawal from Afghanistan that has left many Americans and Afghani allies to suffer the consequences. So woeful was the Biden withdrawal tactic that he imported more Afghans into the USA including criminals than he did Americans.

Biden's family similar to Clintons are as corrupt as you can be and frankly Obama the worst USA president prior to Biden isn't that clean either.

Even neutrals can see how woeful and destructive the Democrats are in America.

America have lost all respect on the world stage. China and Russia see the USA as a joke.

I could highlight a multitude of other Trump benefits and frankly the sooner he or someone of his ilk takes control of the USA the quicker it can bounce back to the healthy financial state and power it used to be.

i see you have had similar difficulties as me, trying to find a shrink.
i'll let you go first, you need it much much more than i do.

carey · November 2021

bookielover said:
Meatpie,
As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't give a stuff if no one in Perth or WA, or any other state for that matter, was vaccinated.

My point, which obviously went over your head, is that my wife and I are both fully vaccinated, and will soon get our booster shots.

So, if we provide a negative covid test to your magnificent Premier and invisible chief health officer three days before arriving in Perth, show proof of vaccination upon arrival, and have another test three days after arrival, and, if required, tests every five days for the length of our stay, according to you, and those who "liked" your post, we are "self entitled" because we want to come to Perth to visit family and friends.

Only a warped mind would equate that desire with Trump.

and yet, and yet, and yet......
oh the irony.

spinking · November 2021

I must be illiterate . I’m sure the heading said West Australian Racing

sonny · November 2021

This is starting to sound like Andrew Bolt and Peter FitzSimons..

Thunderstruck · November 2021

spinking said:
I must be illiterate . I’m sure the heading said West Australian Racing

Yep should have been shitcanned days ago..note who the OP was...i knew it was a phishing expedition from the1st post.

detonator · November 2021

It is only one thread gents. If you don’t want to participate or read it there is about another 3000 to choose from…..just sayin. =))

SLIPPERGOLDEN · November 2021

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:
The Democratic Party or better still the Fascists and Socialists have no idea but to ruin the USA.

Marxists is a lot more accurate than fascists.

I can confirm I did not vote Liberal last state election and will not be voting for them in the next federal election. I will certainly admit as far as USA politics go I support the Republicans and detest the Democrats.

Trump hater or not no one can confidently state that America is in a far better position now than when it was led by Trump.

Whether you like or dislike my comments I always enjoy healthy debate and it is proof that there is a lot more to our forum contributors than just being horse racing experts. :D Bar Carey of course.

SLIPPERGOLDEN · November 2021

Carey quote: i see you have had similar difficulties as me, trying to find a shrink.
i'll let you go first, you need it much much more than i do.

If you disagree with the facts I stated then how about stating your case rather than making a childish remark.

carey · November 2021

SLIPPERGOLDEN said:
Carey quote: i see you have had similar difficulties as me, trying to find a shrink.
i'll let you go first, you need it much much more than i do.

If you disagree with the facts I stated then how about stating your case rather than making a childish remark.

it was not childish.

it was very very serious comment

Bobcat · November 2021

The only thing stopping moody from racing a horse here is moody himself. Nothing stopping him from sending as many horses as he want so Perth.

BlacksAFake · November 2021

Bobcat said:
The only thing stopping moody from racing a horse here is moody himself. Nothing stopping him from sending as many horses as he want so Perth.

Probably deep down knows Bob will crush him :>

curmudgeon · November 2021

Moody covering the bases by by having a go at McGowan ?....Isn't his latest leviathan owner a big Chairman Dan brigade loudmouth...the bloke named after Santa Brae.

meatpie · November 2021

bookielover said:
Meatpie,
As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't give a stuff if no one in Perth or WA, or any other state for that matter, was vaccinated.

My point, which obviously went over your head, is that my wife and I are both fully vaccinated, and will soon get our booster shots.

So, if we provide a negative covid test to your magnificent Premier and invisible chief health officer three days before arriving in Perth, show proof of vaccination upon arrival, and have another test three days after arrival, and, if required, tests every five days for the length of our stay, according to you, and those who "liked" your post, we are "self entitled" because we want to come to Perth to visit family and friends.

Only a warped mind would equate that desire with Trump.

more self indulgence

so it takes you seven paragraphs of self indulgent crap to get to your 'point'. Don't think so, it was a vacuous rant of right wing/fascist dribble

that you get your info from SKY sums it up better than anything. you are a perfect example of Trumpism, laughable beyond words to suggest Victoria or WA is under a dictatorship.

freodockers · November 2021

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/netherlands-covid-lockdown-announced-after-daily-infections-reach-new-record/news-story/1ffdb0e919a3c101437a35cf3f8250a2

SLIPPERGOLDEN · November 2021

bookielover said:
that you get your info from SKY sums it up better than anything.

Meatpie stated that you get your info from SKY sums it up better than anything.

Meatpie that statement is ignorant and basically dismissive. Do you get your info from Q&A ,The Project, Insiders & Offsiders or just Sesame Street.

Unlike our tax funded ABC the Labor and Greens channel and ratings plummeting The Project, Sky actually allows varying points of view from all sides. Indeed regular panel contributors on at least a weekly basis and usually more often and obviously on the Sky payroll include the following Labor team members to name a few;

Graham Richardson, Nicholas Reece, Steve Conroy, Joel Fitzgibbon, Sam Crosby, Linda Scott & Darrin Barnett

Sky also has Sky News UK which is as bad as the ABC on the Green Labor front.

The_Bull · November 2021

Politics / Covid aside, why would you bring one over from the eastern seaboard for a $1million 1600m handicap, when you can scoot up/down the highway to Kembla on the same day for the same thing? I'd bet my left agate that if Moods had that sort of horse "The Gong" would be his 1st option.

detonator · November 2021

Don’t we traditionally roll out the red carpet for our interstate visitors ie transport, accommodation social events etc. Tony McEvoy always loves coming to Perth.

Not sure you get the same treatment going to Wollongong.

But I could be mistaken and barking up the wrong tree.

The_Bull · November 2021

detonator said:
Don’t we traditionally roll out the red carpet for our interstate visitors ie transport, accommodation social events etc. Tony McEvoy always loves coming to Perth.
Not sure you get the same treatment going to Wollongong.
But I could be mistaken and barking up the wrong tree.

I think you are dead right about the red carpet Det, that's the carrot that is dangled. But in this day and age trainers that travel horses interstate couldn't give a flying about the cost, it's all billed to owners anyway. It's more about the risk v reward, and there is a lot less risk when you don't have to put a horse in the air.

Flanders · November 2021

With the amount of prizemoney over in NSW and VIC, why on earth would they come here anymore? It's not like all of those rich races over east are of the highest quality either.....

detonator · November 2021

Maybe some would like to come for a working holiday.

Networking opportunities to get some of the W.A wealth.

Possible team up and connect with some of our top stables. Smith, Williams,Parnham etc.

I read all the time about horses being billeted out to rival trainers when interstate.

Have we discussed the time Darren Weir placed Stratum Star at Lindsay’s stable for the “infamous“ Group One Kingston Town ??……Anyway I have moved on. Haha

:-h

AbbysAce · November 2021

detonator said:
Maybe some would like to come for a working holiday.
Networking opportunities to get some of the W.A wealth.
Possible team up and connect with some of our top stables. Smith, Williams,Parnham etc.
I read all the time about horses being billeted out to rival trainers when interstate.
Have we discussed the time Darren Weir placed Stratum Star at Lindsay’s stable for the “infamous“ Group One Kingston Town ??……Anyway I have moved on. Haha
:-h

Stratum Star was stabled at a harness racing trainer, Colin Brown

detonator · November 2021

AbbysAce said:

detonator said:
Maybe some would like to come for a working holiday.
Networking opportunities to get some of the W.A wealth.
Possible team up and connect with some of our top stables. Smith, Williams,Parnham etc.
I read all the time about horses being billeted out to rival trainers when interstate.
Have we discussed the time Darren Weir placed Stratum Star at Lindsay’s stable for the “infamous“ Group One Kingston Town ??……Anyway I have moved on. Haha
:-h
Stratum Star was stabled at a harness racing trainer, Colin Brown

Ok may have got that one slightly wrong…..is Colin Lindsay’s neighbour ?

thefalcon · November 2021

i'm pretty sure it was public knowledge that the horse was under Lindsay's care here in WA.

SLIPPERGOLDEN · November 2021

Result was always going to be the same no matter where it was located

G'day Punter!

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