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Tabtouch activity statement - may affect turnover!?

West Australian Racing
licklick    307 posts
West Australian Racing
Given that most punters lose over time, the Tabtouch activity statement being emailed to all account holders, might make some punters a little more hesitant or nervous to bet like they are used to, once the reality is placed before them.

And, you can't "unsubscribe". Nonetheless, it is a reality check that may put more food on the table for some families.

If you haven't received it, check your Spam folder.

Just saying.
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,249 posts
    It's a good thing I feel.

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,249 posts
    You can also get activity from every month since your account has been active through the APP
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  • SLIPPERGOLDENSLIPPERGOLDEN    7,761 posts
    Long overdue

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    Care of duty about time they were held accountable to provide this info
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  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    472 posts
    A great initiative

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  • RIORIO    14,882 posts
    It'll have ZERO impact if you delete it like all junk mail

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  • AbbysAceAbbysAce    565 posts
    You cant lose much when they dont let you on...................

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,900 posts
    I got that sent to me to me as well - and i think it is an absolute load of rubbish 

    Some punters actually know how to win - and that is the only reason i bet - not bragging - but i havent had a losing year on the punt for the past 35 years - and if you are working at the same time - then it is beautiful - you get lovely tax free money on top of your income - 

    Wes Cameron - and i like Wes - but he made the most  ridiculous but probably honest comment of all time - re betting and punting 

    Years back - i dont know 8-10 years ago - use to be on the Frid night GP Harness - and he said to Sam Nati who was the host at the time - quote - look if you are a punter you have to budget how much you can afford to lose each year 

    And i thought to myself - what utter garbage - if i lost - i wouldnt bet . Its like when the Perth Casino 1st opened - i went their twice - i was pretty good with the Maths 1 and 2 - and i did every 
    mathematical combination - and i said this is all pure luck and you cant win - so common sense says never go back and i didnt 

    Some punters do win consistently - and what pissses me of with  some Sky Channel presenters - they will say or declare - oh this is the get out ( being the last race ) at Gloucester Park or Shepparton Harness - or where ever 

    There is no get out with me - and those dopey barrstards who say that - should be sacked/terminated on the spot

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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,246 posts
    i reckon its a load of rubbish too... i definitely won more than minus $10,000....
    im throwing that statement in the bin. 
    :))

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  • jumjum    3,516 posts
    Has anyone delved into there statement.
    I just got mine and I cant make heads or tails of it. 
    It says I have spent a fair whack and made a decent profit.
    But for example on this month only on my Sportsbet account that I deposited $2000 and I withdrew $2600. But on the graph it says I made a $2316.30 profit for the month. 
    :-B :-??

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  • YankeeYankee    299 posts
    Markovina said:

    I got that sent to me to me as well - and i think it is an absolute load of rubbish 


    Some punters actually know how to win - and that is the only reason i bet - not bragging - but i havent had a losing year on the punt for the past 35 years - and if you are working at the same time - then it is beautiful - you get lovely tax free money on top of your income - 

    Wes Cameron - and i like Wes - but he made the most  ridiculous but probably honest comment of all time - re betting and punting 

    Years back - i dont know 8-10 years ago - use to be on the Frid night GP Harness - and he said to Sam Nati who was the host at the time - quote - look if you are a punter you have to budget how much you can afford to lose each year 

    And i thought to myself - what utter garbage - if i lost - i wouldnt bet . Its like when the Perth Casino 1st opened - i went their twice - i was pretty good with the Maths 1 and 2 - and i did every 
    mathematical combination - and i said this is all pure luck and you cant win - so common sense says never go back and i didnt 

    Some punters do win consistently - and what pissses me of with  some Sky Channel presenters - they will say or declare - oh this is the get out ( being the last race ) at Gloucester Park or Shepparton Harness - or where ever 

    There is no get out with me - and those dopey barrstards who say that - should be sacked/terminated on the spot
    Put your tips up for saturday and show us your skills then!

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,249 posts
    Markovina said:

    I got that sent to me to me as well - and i think it is an absolute load of rubbish 


    Some punters actually know how to win - and that is the only reason i bet - not bragging - but i havent had a losing year on the punt for the past 35 years - and if you are working at the same time - then it is beautiful - you get lovely tax free money on top of your income - 

    Wes Cameron - and i like Wes - but he made the most  ridiculous but probably honest comment of all time - re betting and punting 

    Years back - i dont know 8-10 years ago - use to be on the Frid night GP Harness - and he said to Sam Nati who was the host at the time - quote - look if you are a punter you have to budget how much you can afford to lose each year 

    And i thought to myself - what utter garbage - if i lost - i wouldnt bet . Its like when the Perth Casino 1st opened - i went their twice - i was pretty good with the Maths 1 and 2 - and i did every 
    mathematical combination - and i said this is all pure luck and you cant win - so common sense says never go back and i didnt 

    Some punters do win consistently - and what pissses me of with  some Sky Channel presenters - they will say or declare - oh this is the get out ( being the last race ) at Gloucester Park or Shepparton Harness - or where ever 

    There is no get out with me - and those dopey barrstards who say that - should be sacked/terminated on the spot



    @Markovina I agree with your sentiments overall, just not sure what it has to do with the statement being sent out? It's a duty of care by agencies for those who don't normally track what they are doing. Those that don't track their progress will be unpleasantly surprised as to how quickly those 50-100 deposits here or there build up. If you know how to win and that's the reason you bet that's fantastic, you've cracked the code. But reality is that 95% or more of punters are not like this.

    I think statements are a good idea for the punter as it allows you to look at where your money is going and where it is and isn't working for you. It also keeps you in check with a dose of reality, let's be honest here.

    Statements, deposit limits, self controlled markets etc I feel are better for the majority of casual players. The pros complain and that's fair enough to some degree, but the casual punter needs protections who ever they are, whatever their discipline.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    19,991 posts
    i'd like to hear what rodent has to say about markovinas claims... ;)
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  • RodentRodent    7,038 posts
    @Markovina There is no get out with me - and those dopey barrstards who say that - should be sacked/terminated on the spot

    They work for Tabcorp. Why would they get the sack for encouraging people to bet? That's what they're there for.
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  • tonytony    2,370 posts
    marko does well on the harness thread 

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  • savethegamesavethegame    2,799 posts
    Harness Racing none better in the 10/1 and over   bracket of  finding winners Marko very astute.from minimal tips. very  hard digging . in harness 10s and overs.

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,676 posts
    Next will be a flow chart on just how good their tipsters are.


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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,900 posts
    thefalcon said:

    i'd like to hear what rodent has to say about markovinas claims... ;)

    I only back harness racing - i dont touch the gallops - ive got no interest in them at all 

    Now the 2 reasons why i bet on Harness Racing - you can win on the punt - whether that is fixed odds ( which is just a punters heaven ) - before they came in - i was a tifecta - 1st 4 punter - and i didnt care what prices horses were - i just religiously stuck to trifectas and 1st 4s - now if you do that - you will win 

    And the other reason i back harness racing - you have to love the product - and i got hooked at 11 years of age - attended a city meeting - and i thought this is utter paradise ( big crowds  back then )

    And as Jimmy Jacques said - you get a bit of harness racing in your blood - you are hooked for life

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  • thefalconthefalcon    19,991 posts
    i trust you back in the eastern states, marko. when i glance thru GP results, most winners are $2 or under.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,676 posts
    DamienWyer said:

    Next will be a flow chart on just how good their tipsters are.





    Some won't like this, but I don't think much of tipsters that seem to have no accountability, so I thought why not track some numbers to see if my hunch is right.

    With one raced to go today, which will end the month, I have recorded actual tips against actual results. It's an interesting read.


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  • psychopsycho    655 posts
    DamienWyer said:

    DamienWyer said:

    Next will be a flow chart on just how good their tipsters are.





    Some won't like this, but I don't think much of tipsters that seem to have no accountability, so I thought why not track some numbers to see if my hunch is right.

    With one raced to go today, which will end the month, I have recorded actual tips against actual results. It's an interesting read.


    Unless the tips are calculated over a period of time it will be no guide. You got to remember somebody like Scott Embry has his tips up on Thursday morning way before the track condition can actually be "guaranteed". He will also have no idea of a potential bias the day may throw up as well as a number of other factors including jockey changes. Most other tipsters in these situations are also in the same position as Scott tipping way before an event and then we calculate how they go and call them bums, useless tipsters etc etc (not saying you are doing this here Damien) but its a topic that has been going on since I started punting 50 years ago. We should all just do our own work and let the paper tipsters do what they want. I can guarantee most people who tip on these sites would not their tips if the conditions on a day change
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,676 posts
    Agreed however I have taken the numbers off the morning show for racing later that day.

    Tips from the yard are a bit too hard to track.
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  • goosegoose    1,628 posts
    You need to work out which tipsters tip best for certain tracks or carnivals no one can tip winners all year round they are in and out of form.
    David Gateley is a great tipster but you would be broke following him since he switched to Sky I like to get tipsters on the way up but knowing full well it can last forever.
    One I follow atm is as good as I have ever seen for finding long priced winners not even sure what he does for work but the bloke really knows his form over east particularly Sydney which is very tricky to find winners.
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  • goosegoose    1,628 posts
    Deano is also a great tipster but particularly is he tips certain trainers horses you get confidence punting them Zahra, Maher etc  hope his health is well now.
    You cant expect him to tip winners every day of the week too hard.
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  • tonytony    2,370 posts
    The other thing to remember is that a lot of tipsters are compelled to tip on every race even when they would not want to in some cases

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    2,900 posts
    tony said:

    The other thing to remember is that a lot of tipsters are compelled to tip on every race even when they would not want to in some cases

    I agree with that

    The late Brian Blackmore who was an Eastern States race caller - called mainly provincial/country gallops and some Vic Trotting 

    But back in the early 90s  he was calling a Saturday night Moonee Valley Trots meeting - 9 race card - and he tipped the card - all 9 winners - and there were some juicy priced winners in that 

    At that time ( and there wasnt the proliferation of extremely short  priced favourites - like there is today at GP Trotting ) he is the only person who had ever done that - and thus it was a bloody good effort 

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  • ArapahoArapaho    223 posts
    The thing about tipping.you never run out of money,its free,
    Punting, now thats a different story,
    Most of the better punters dont tip',they dont have too, they make enough  punting.
    I feel these activity statement are great and by putting the cold hard facts in front of us,it could  make us better punters,or at least make us put a little more time in, before placing investments. 

    You would think, anyone in the black all the time, would definitely welcome theirs.

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  • thefalconthefalcon    19,991 posts
    i'm not being a smug pryck but i take absolutely no notice of any tips.
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