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  • mattymatty    52 posts
    I can’t still understand why they haven’t developed Lark Hill with the hot weather on the weekend 40° and above. If you look at the weather in Mandurah maximum 37°. It really is a no brainer but obviously they don’t want to spend the money

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  • detonatordetonator    4,388 posts
    DamienWyer said:

    From State to State regulations vary. In Sydney for example at The Star, you cannot make a cash advance withdrawal on a credit card. You can in Canberra and Melbourne. 


    In Melbourne at Crown, you can't play for more than three hours without being removed from the gaming floor for 15 minutes mandatory break. You can't play for more than 12 hours in one 24 hour period. For the most part, Casino's now monitor via membership loyalty cards but they also do via video gaming surveillance. When they make the transition to EFTPOS only at tables the tracking will be down to the minute. 

    Perth has similar restrictions, but from memory and I could be wrong, you also have a weekly total of gaming at tables in addition to daily limits. Responsible Service of Gambling, RSG, is almost biblical now in it's enforcement. 

    I don't know why people may think that these regulations won't come to Racing. It is inevitable. 
    It already has come to racing courtesy of BET 365. :-q
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  • spinkingspinking    3,921 posts
    psycho if the predicted top of 37 doesn’t change before Sunday I reckon they will go ahead at Pinj . Even though 37 at Plnj feels like 40
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  • MuldoonMuldoon    443 posts
    matty said:

    I can’t still understand why they haven’t developed Lark Hill with the hot weather on the weekend 40° and above. If you look at the weather in Mandurah maximum 37°. It really is a no brainer but obviously they don’t want to spend the money

    What money ?
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  • AbbysAceAbbysAce    651 posts
    How about running the 1st at Ascot at 8am, 11am in the east, surely they could negotiate with Sky channel to have short gaps as very little racing on at that time, last race 10.30am ?
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  • Buddy123Buddy123    248 posts
    Speaking of weather.. I never knew there was 2 tracks at Belmont site? Goodwood racecourse..
    Or was it one n morphed into 2..
    Albert Cockram was a character..

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,332 posts
    no way abby the cash cows ie pubtabs are not open.

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  • spinkingspinking    3,921 posts
    Abbys most of the larger stables are just finishing around that time. Not to mention the southern corridor trainers ie if you train in Bunbury and had a runner in the first you would have to be leaving home around 5 am
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  • AbbysAceAbbysAce    651 posts
    spinking said:

    Abbys most of the larger stables are just finishing around that time. Not to mention the southern corridor trainers ie if you train in Bunbury and had a runner in the first you would have to be leaving home around 5 am

    Most of the larger stables have staff smart enough to get the work done without the trainer looking over their shoulder.

    The falcon said, the pub tabs arent open, good point, but i would say the majority could bet on their phone/laptop/computer/ipad  if they had too.

    It is only a suggestion, and I think the trainers, foremans, staff would like the rest of the Saturday off.

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  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    626 posts
    edited February 2024
    So many scr today because people dont want to travel from perth to bunvegas
    If the industry want lights they need to fund it themselves. I.e. needs to come from prizemoney like the animal welfare fund they have in other states. Rwwa standing idle doing f/a waiting to win powerball to do anything, if it takes 5 years to raise the funds then so be it, the whole point is starting the ball rolling. Not sure how you will sell this to the sw and nw participants who prob wont ever get to run a horse under lights in the metro but someone has to do something.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,332 posts
    what would be a ball park figure of the cost of lights?
    would solar power be an option, with electricity a back-up?
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  • psychopsycho    754 posts
    thefalcon said:

    what would be a ball park figure of the cost of lights?

    would solar power be an option, with electricity a back-up?
    If they use the last electrician I used to wire my house, they should be able to get them in for around 40 million

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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    4,972 posts
    thefalcon said:

    what would be a ball park figure of the cost of lights?

    would solar power be an option, with electricity a back-up?




    I would say with the constant improvement in LED lighting you could do it with solar/battery/inverter systems.

    Cost wise no idea but it would be bloody expensive i would think getting in pits conduits switchboards etc around the infrastructure of a race trsck given you cant just go out there and dig a trench across the track so individual solar poles could be cost effective.

    I have been envolved in something of thst nature previously but that was just to provide adequate lighting to a walking/running track for a few hours each night to provide the output/quality of light you would need to run a race meeting.
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  • meatpiemeatpie    537 posts
    edited February 2024
    $10 million or more.

    Issues, Swan River Trust at Ascot and Developers at Belmont Park.

    No room at Ascot unless you encroach into river land, cant see the Developer allowing large light structures in front of million dollar apartments (when they built) especially when down the back straight and over near old stalls they own the land right up to outside rail.

    would be hard ask, but a professional might make it work.
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  • psychopsycho    754 posts
    First at Pinjarra now pushed back to 2.40 for race 1 and finishing at 6.46
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  • Bomber1Bomber1    31 posts
    Good call by RWWA they got it right

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,332 posts
    how did racing victoria afford lights at moonee valley, cranbourne, pakenham and maybe one more?
    be an idea for us to talk to them about costs, what contractor etc.
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  • spinkingspinking    3,921 posts
    I feel all the talk on PTT about installing lights though well intended is pie in the sky talk. One where do they get the funds ?
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  • psychopsycho    754 posts
    spinking said:

    I feel all the talk on PTT about installing lights though well intended is pie in the sky talk. One where do they get the funds ?

    Gofundme page  :)]

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,332 posts
    good one psycho... L-)

    again i ask how can victoria install lights at at least 3 venues?
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  • meatpiemeatpie    537 posts
    Pakenham was $12 million. Collaboration with State Government and Racing Victoria. Probably funded by sell off of old Pakenham racecourse which was developed for housing. Therein lies the message, should have sold Belmont in entirety and funded state of art facility.

    Tried to post article but couldn't.
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  • ChrisChris    5,460 posts
    Pinjarra delayed because 0.02 degrees over the policy of 38 degrees  :))

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,332 posts
    fair dinkum!! we are a sissy state..probably got the barometer in direct sunlight. what happens if it hits 38.05?

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  • Vincent_vegaVincent_vega    626 posts
    Might as well pack it in for summer

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  • ManchildManchild    790 posts
    Singapore has a heap of light towers that they wont need shortly

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,332 posts
    ^ that is an excellent idea, manchild.
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  • MuldoonMuldoon    443 posts
    Interesting that the Picnic races at Kojonup were not afforded the opportunity to race earlier, after I believe asking RWWA to look at that. That info I gleaned from a friend, a Polo Clubber who organise the day, he said they still had a good crowd of about 600 attend the day, but would have been double with the races on a normal weather day, if they had been allowed an earlier race day start Saturday, possibly around 900 , the heat would have driven a few away.  

    I was one of those that deferred in the end, 41 degrees out in the middle of nowhere, as good as Kojonup race day is, but without the racing, just did not appeal to me. Hope the club get a bit more luck & a bit more "support" next year.

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  • AbbysAceAbbysAce    651 posts
    Ascot wont be on Sunday, weather forecast is saying 41 degrees.
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  • detonatordetonator    4,388 posts
    Plenty of lights installed in the new car park at Belmont. :-B
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  • jumjum    3,558 posts
    edited February 2024
    Manchild said:

    Singapore has a heap of light towers that they wont need shortly

    I think you will find that the actual towers are the cheapest part.
    We have just put some up around our football oval and I was heavily involved.
    Footings for the tower and the correct LED lights were the most expensive part. Footings had to be a ridiculous depth and width to our previous ones. And we are nowhere near a river. So, I would imagine you would be doubling ours just on footings. It cost us nearly a million to put up our lights to illuminate a footy oval to the correct AFL lux lighting standard. So have a guess what you think it would cost lights this day and age what it would cost to get to the correct Lux to race.
    I laugh when I look at Toowoomba and their lights 50 metres of light into 50 metres of darkness.
    :-j
    My guess would be 18 million. The dumb thing is. We can all guess. But has someone actually asked from the Turf club for a quote from the people that do this. And there are plenty of business's that specialize in this as there are govt grants left right and centre getting handed out. 
    :-? :-?? :-? :-??

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