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Whip rule... why bother?
West Australian Racing
Flanders
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So Pike wins the 2yo MM race with 2 additional hits of the whip before the 100m mark. Just gets up in the last few strides. Big chance it doesn't wind up enough if he sticks to the rules. Might get a couple hundred dollar fine but they get to keep the huge prizemoney. Why bother with the rule at all? Doesn't make it a fair game
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This was the stewards chance to make a stand but they didn't. Big farking deal suspending him for a week, he doesn't get that many rides anyway so what's the penalty? Take the bloody race off him and they'll all take notice.
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Its the one thing about the rule i never understand. Found guilty of a rule breach and protest dismissed!?!??!?!?! I the protest is dismissed, then he should cop no penalty....If he cops a penalty for a rule breach then surely the protest has to be upheld.
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Several more though have been lodged, with more whereby perhaps should have been a protest but let go through to the keeper.
Maybe an unwritten rule with hoops not to protest ? A little like the "mankad" in cricket. However occasionally a hoop thinks he got a case and rightly so. The bowler in cricket had a gutful of the batsman backing up. A loose comparison - but enough is enough! There are rules!
As said before if ever lost a decent bet because of the whip rule and the protest being upheld that'd be my last bet ( not such a bad thing ) but if ever gained a result through a excessive whip protest would be celebrating deep into the night!
Stewards seem reticent to uphold them - reason given as Tony stated above. Still think it's a grey area just the same.
It'd be a rotten way to lose a race, but then again......
As I stated above, yesterday was their big chance to make a stance. Missed opportunity me thinks.
I'd rather have them aggressively policing the game and have participants being cautious, than allowing them to push the boundaries as they do now, because the penalty being dished out is of no concern to them.
Okay could cop it if the margin was say half a length. But 1/2 head is getting to close for the stewards to make a call as to whether it affected the result. Maybe to take away the grey area obviously associated with this rule, if the margin is a head or less and the second rider protests against the winner and he is done for using the whip to much the protest is upheld
Or is that six just one more than the allocated five ?
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Doesn't take much to confuse me.
In this case it was the trainer who noticed and protested, he must have been seething - before and afterwards - hoops, trainers and even owners have every right to protest ?
Never want to see a horse to lose a race because of the whip rule but you guys favouring upheld make a bloody good point.
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Stewards protests very rarely dismissed. Racing or pacing it's the last thing as a punter you want to hear,yet the rest of the "gang"...jockey,trainer etc saw nothing in it. Can never quite fathom that.
As a punter would much rather have a hoop protest or trainer, owner than stewards - it's the kiss of death.
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Whilst not serious - thought at the time there's no room for the feint hearted out there. They do have guts and deserve every cent they get.
The other thing didn't realise until late was the Bunbury Cup yesterday was 2000 metres a change from the 2200 metres ?
What it should have read was it was 6 wide and last at the 800m. Rounding the turn was 10 wide and last and at the top of the straight was 12 wide and second last. WTF.
Considering it jumped on terms with the rest of the field and allowed to drop back the ride was 0 out of 10.
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For what its worth, I highly rate Jarrad Noske but for this part of his repertoire I'm off him.
It should be 25000 and 3 months. That would deter a few
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