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Chariots got me thinking - when he said he had $2000 on Preaux Chavilier
Well ive got 3 - and you have to mention your losses as well as your wins
I will start with the local scene- back in the 80s there was this grey galloper - sprinter called Flying Pharoah - and it used to run in 1000 metre sprints at Ascot - and it would be up their 4-5 wide contesting the lead - it used to carry its head real high - it used to run cheeky races - run about 6th beaten 3 and a half lengths . Any how they took it to Bunbury - 1400 metre welter - and they all said this squib wont get the trip . Mark Sestich rode it - dont care what anyone says - he was a champion jockey not many better than him . Brendan Clements rode the 3s on favourite . I went their - it was 100 degrees boy it was it hot - had $100 e/w the grey horse at 8-1 . Sestich walked them in front - at the top of the straight when everyone thought it would give up - Sestich booted it - and it won by 4 lengths . I can still see the bookie wince when i gave him the ticket to collect
My biggest win by far - was over in Sydney at Randwick - at the time the stock market (87 i think ) had just crashed - i had borrowed money to invest in shares - i didnt even bother adding up the total - the mess i was in - the loans far exceeded the shares - however i was working - so i could pay it off - however i thought im going to get serious with the punting on the racing - and i did very well - predominantly the gallops - i would go to the Sat meeting - and i would have the 1 bet each week $500 E/W . Best win was at Randwick - Bluerica was the name of the horse $500e/w at 8-1 - could only get $300 on with one bookie - however there was this other bookie - Hec someone -old bloke - he snaffled up the other $700 much to his detriment . Johny Marshall rode it - he put the stick away at the 100 metre mark - i was high up in that public grand stand . Darren Beadmen rode the runner up and fave Regal something for Bobby Thompson
My biggest loss by far - believe it not it was a greyhound . Wentworth Park - this dog ive never forgotten its name Footrot Flyer . Just like the pacers - like youd have all these horses called Franco something - well there were all these dogs at that time called Footrot something . Anyhow this dog was drawn box 1 - it was even money - and i had an even $1300 the win on it . It led on its ear - it was 3 in front approaching the 1st turn - then this collective moan came accross the crowd - it ran off and got beat
Well ive got 3 - and you have to mention your losses as well as your wins
I will start with the local scene- back in the 80s there was this grey galloper - sprinter called Flying Pharoah - and it used to run in 1000 metre sprints at Ascot - and it would be up their 4-5 wide contesting the lead - it used to carry its head real high - it used to run cheeky races - run about 6th beaten 3 and a half lengths . Any how they took it to Bunbury - 1400 metre welter - and they all said this squib wont get the trip . Mark Sestich rode it - dont care what anyone says - he was a champion jockey not many better than him . Brendan Clements rode the 3s on favourite . I went their - it was 100 degrees boy it was it hot - had $100 e/w the grey horse at 8-1 . Sestich walked them in front - at the top of the straight when everyone thought it would give up - Sestich booted it - and it won by 4 lengths . I can still see the bookie wince when i gave him the ticket to collect
My biggest win by far - was over in Sydney at Randwick - at the time the stock market (87 i think ) had just crashed - i had borrowed money to invest in shares - i didnt even bother adding up the total - the mess i was in - the loans far exceeded the shares - however i was working - so i could pay it off - however i thought im going to get serious with the punting on the racing - and i did very well - predominantly the gallops - i would go to the Sat meeting - and i would have the 1 bet each week $500 E/W . Best win was at Randwick - Bluerica was the name of the horse $500e/w at 8-1 - could only get $300 on with one bookie - however there was this other bookie - Hec someone -old bloke - he snaffled up the other $700 much to his detriment . Johny Marshall rode it - he put the stick away at the 100 metre mark - i was high up in that public grand stand . Darren Beadmen rode the runner up and fave Regal something for Bobby Thompson
My biggest loss by far - believe it not it was a greyhound . Wentworth Park - this dog ive never forgotten its name Footrot Flyer . Just like the pacers - like youd have all these horses called Franco something - well there were all these dogs at that time called Footrot something . Anyhow this dog was drawn box 1 - it was even money - and i had an even $1300 the win on it . It led on its ear - it was 3 in front approaching the 1st turn - then this collective moan came accross the crowd - it ran off and got beat
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Lost first final to Brisbane by a kick - but get another chance at the MCG following week and dispose of the Eagles easily.
Now just need to knock off Sydney in Sydney to make the GF, could have won it in the last quarter several times - think led by 17 points at one stage - they were very gutsy.
Plugger Lockett kicks point after the siren - 10k slips through the fingers.
That was the game were Andrew Dunkley whacked James Hird from pillar to post and black eye seen on Hird collecting his Brownlow Medal comes from that game.
Not to worry would have given it all back but would've been a good ride while it lasted!
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Now never have any luck on those big races - could just scream in fact how close had come previously but no cigar.
This time said ok I'm going for it again.
Spent quite a few hundred $ to have it for around 32% - typical Caulfield Cup 18 horses and wide open.
Left out the WA horse completely - Mr Moet and of course he has the run of the race, and looks a threat entering the straight, then their is a wall of them coming, don't know which way to look and who have I got or not got.
Listen hard to caller Greg Miles - and here comes Fawkner - yep good I've got him to win - flashing home out wide is Dandino - that's cool - and along the fence a roughie and a favourite of mine Dear Demi - now who's run 4th??!!!
Oh please give me a miracle - the commentator calls it and fair dinkum nope don't have it - but hey has he called it correct ?
Thank goodness he hadn't and a horse Damian Oliver rode ran 4th. Was a massive run too - took off early in the race. Might have been called All The Good or something like that.
Went from devastation to elated in a second. Think paid around 14k and that was a huge divvy - NSW and Queensland far less.
Just checking the wallet now - yep they got it all back!
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Had one more run - ran a warm favourite a couple of weeks later in the McKinnon - unplaced and pulled up lame.
All The Good think was a Godolphin horse who actually won a CC.
Do the form on the tuesday, notice that a horse we raced against on debut was also in the race. Do the replays, and this horse, after a torrid run beats us home by a placing or two. I then note that brad is now on said horse and not sticking with ours... alarm bells for my horse but i let that digest and then the brain starts doing summersaults when i see the price of the horse brad is riding.... $61 fixed. A score is on the cards.
Have a nice bet, win only. Put half on fixed and half on the tote. Race is run and as i thought the horse ridden by brad shits in. Go in and see my horse in the mounting yard who has finished back in the pack, then notice the tote board - it paid $90 the win on the tote. Couldnt beleive my eyes.
Oh, and this horses name? None other than Swift Sis. Now winning races at flemington in the makybe diva colours.
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A matter of weeks or months later, grab Saturday's morning newspaper and she's won at Richmond Raceway at 66/1 or better! Nice reading that was.
Had 1k to invest and thought the 1992 Melbourne Cup was a deadset two horse race between Veandercross and Subzero.
These were the options.
1. Back them both.
2. Hit them hard in trifecta and first four betting - to run 1,2 or 1,3.
3. Just back Subzero - he's a much better price and with the rain arriving will lap that up.
4. Put it all on my favourite horse Veandercross.
Chose option four. To make matters worse a decent roughie ran 4th and the first four dividend was huge. Even the trifecta on two fancied runners paid very well. Veandercross finished up going around a fairly short priced fave for a Melbourne Cup - think was around 7/4 2/1 by start time.
His win on the on the Saturday before the Cup was one of the best wins have seen - missed the kick and badly held up for a run, similar in a way to the Lohnro win and just as good.
When punters hear the name Veandercross they often think of unlucky in the Caulfield Cup and Melbourne Cup - sandwiched in between was one of the greatest wins ever, it's somewhere on the net or You Tube.
Another good replay on the net is a certain Golden Slipper - had seen a horse with a powerful motor - going to have a crack at this - out to Ascot venture by taxi - wonderful eastern states ring out the back they had.
So started loading the pineapples on a horse by the name of Octagonal - cut a long story short - got along way back as was his pattern then not much luck and fair dinkum powered home to run a close second, certainty beaten. Grant Cooksley rode.
Winner turned out to be a very good horse too - Flying Spur - Glenn Boss. ( He rode him a treat of course).
Spur and Ocky both deceased now as is Veandercross. It's only fleeting their time.
Octagonal came very close to being a Golden Slipper - Cox Plate victor.
Caught a taxi to the track that day but it was a lot further walk home!
Still enjoy the racing/trotting game as much as ever and a small dabble.
Were and are the big bets worth it ? Not on your nelly!
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About 1981 or 82 me and a school mate were keen on the sports, he wrote to the Tab and suggested they get involved in Sports betting.
The reply from the Tab at the time went along these lines - we have little interest in persuing sports betting because it wouldn't attract much business and will never get off the ground.
Then went on with a few more points as to why it wouldn't work. Hmmmmm.
Gosh wish had a copy of the reply letter!
Now a billion dollar industry and just like us back then it's become very appealing to young people - except now delivered on a plate ( tablet ).
Was determined to get one of those buggers and litterally got one!
They were the "flavour of the month" for awhile but then mysteriously shafted. Think abit more to meets the eye as to why.
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Working out the cost was always a challenge too. With Flexi betting they would possibly work better now on the occasional race, preferably a small field - just like that Harold Park rort haha.
That got the ball rolling haha.
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Well bugger me, 1st and 3rd, on cursing and leaving the tab, went to the shops and then headed for home, get back in the car - protest 3rd against 2nd, hells spells where are those tickets - found 'em.
Now for the wait, saw nothing during the race, think was for interference around 600-800 metres from home - a bit unusual.
Wasn't confident at all, but it began to go for awhile - keep going!
Protest - Upheld. Punch air!
Can't for the life of me recall the horses - perhaps that old stager County Tyrone might have been involved somewhere in the finish.
Now think the jockey who protested and needed to get the result - Ringa ding ding Pumper's the King!
Remember thinking at the time he might not be that popular with the stewards, and got a feeling the hoop he protested against was Shane Dye. Two great orator's there.
Fairy sure they were the two involved anyway - must try to find that race - but definetly 3rd against 2nd upheld - the correct decision haha.
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Not exactly a punting story but a Bookmaker’s version
thereof.
I am going to shelf myself completely here but I am sure
many have worked out who I am anyway and I see no need to hide behind a nom de
plume to protect myself.
The name Our Ian Mac was mentioned in the Memory Lane
threads and it brought back some very bad memories of its 1987 Pacing Cup
Win. The full story was stranger than
fiction and from my perspective it was the perfect storm.
Our Ian Mac was an MO before final acceptances and had to
win one to qualify which it duly did, not overly impressively and was not at
prohibited odds.
I bet pre-post on the Pacing Cup as I did most years and
even to this day I am not sure why I did as my record on this form of betting
was not good. I bet 100/1 Our Ian Mac and laid one bet of $100,000 to $1,000
(approx. $250k with inflation today). I also laid it at 33/1 and 20/1 on the
way down. It was suggested on another thread that Kim Loxton was involved with
the plunge but he did not back it with me and I was the only bookmaker betting
pre-post. The $100k bet was placed by a punter closely connected to Trevor
Warwick’s stable at the time.
Anyway it qualified for the final and the barrier draw was
held in the Golden Nugget Room and this is where the drama went to another
level. Barrier draw was to be decided by connections pushing a plunger which
was to light up the barrier draw in the infield by fireworks.
First to push a plunger were the connections of Village Kid
and it drew barrier one much to my relief. Village Kid would now be 1/3 or
shorter and looked a certainty. It had won the two previous Pacing Cups and
then won the two after this one.
The second plunger was pushed by the connections and nothing
happened in the infield. After a delay of about an hour with technicians
running around everywhere it was decided that the problem could not be fixed.
Stewards declared that the Village Kid barrier would stand and all other
barriers would be drawn by marbles. The connections of one of the horses (not
Our Ian Mac) objected strongly to this decision and eventually the connections
of Village Kid agreed to an entirely new barrier draw.
Our Ian Mac drew well, Village Kid poorly. Our Ian Mac had a
perfect trail one/one and sprinted over the leaders. To add salt to the wound I
watched the race on the northern steps of the Golden Nugget Stand and the bloke
behind me said to his mate “My boss has a runner in this so I hope it wins” and
then he proceeded to barrack for Our Ian Mac for the entire race. The final
dagger.
My liability by the time the race was run was the equivalent
of a two bedroom apartment.
As constant reminder of my folly the wife of the owner
bought a pink Mercedes Sports with my money and it was at GP on most Friday
nights in that era. It exploded the myth that all Bookies drove Mercedes.
Our Ian Mac did very little after its Pacing Cup win and may
not have won another race but I am not certain of that.
My Bank Manager was not pleased at the time but we lived to
fight another day.
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Gai Waterhouse still holds that mantle by a million miles . Singletons horse - in the Cox Plate - Gai had the option - the luxury of choosing - yeah i will have barrier 13 - the ouside gate on that saucer track Moonee Valley - with a short run from the starting barriers to the 1st turn
Singleton said he went to every form analyst there was - and not one of them could give him a leg up for the outside gate at the Cox Plate start
Unbelievable
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Wow that was a big payout.
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Had sourced and purchased an untried 2yo from NZ for a stable client for not an overly large figure anyway we were based in Albany at the time he rolled in and we had another smart 2yo in work at the time who had been tried. Both did all their fast work together and the recent NZ purchase was convincingly beating the other on the track. We nominated them both to race at Narrogin but the 2yo for that week didn’t hold up but the next week it did, So the night before the meeting rolls around and bet365 had him $5.50 and our other runner favourite. After a few calls around to make sure the people that knew he was a reasonable horse didn’t snipe the bet365 odds we started working out how much we could get on him. Next day comes and price is untouched and the other books copy and paste the same prices, myself and the owner on 3-4 different accounts each got as much as we could on, first time I’ve ever seen tabtouch suspend betting on a market without taking down the prices. Anyway we backed him down from 5.50 to around 1.50 he led and won untouched we took a touch north of 35k on him, after breaking down in both front tendons he now races twice a week impressively for Tony Svilivich
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