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Bookmaker/Punter Anecdotes
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Episode 1 - The Blind Man
This punter was not blind but had a successful business installing household blinds.
He was unique in that the shorter the price the better. If a horse opened at 1/2 or $1.50 he may have $2k on it. If it opened at 1/4 or $1.25 he was likely to have $8k on it. If it opened at even money he would shy away from it and not back it at all even if he thought it could win.
So much for requiring value before you bet.
He backed a lot of winners and survived for a long time but I was aware that the corporate bookmakers let him on for unlimited, which would suggest that overall he was a losing punter.
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That's why would never put bets like that on - as a simpleton I liked to know what was due back before placing the bet.
Not that didn't trust the bookies to have it correct!
Some bookies were lightning fast on the fraction type bet. Always thought was remarkable.
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Anyhow a couple of months before he went belly up - he was fielding in the Interstate Trots ring on a Sat night out at the Harold Park Dogs ( he would have been fielding at gallops in the afternoon )
To show how bad he was going ( and he was a well presented bloke ) their was trots race at Moonee Valley - and i was only putting on small bets for an interest . The fave was 6/4 - the one i liked was 7/2 . On the 2nd call the fave was out to 2/1 so i said i will have $20 on the 7/2 pop - 10 seconds later it got called over at 5/2 - he said to me - you knew it was going to tighten - your getting $50 to $20 - thats it - we debated it for a minute or 2 - but thats how ordinary he was going at the time
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Was a Pacing Cup series think whereby everything went wrong for Westburn Grant, he opened up favourite on arriving but never stopped drifting and eventually started at double figures and won comfortably.
With hindsight many were asking, how did that champ start at double figures ?
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First thoughts would have been - just what is that saying ?! Did leave an impression that's for sure - must have just been the unusualness of it is why the memory remained.
Don't recall alot about that Pacing Cup series - ( ran three heats before final ? ) do remember Westburn Grant forging away from them in the final though, think he drew about 7 or 8 barrier ?
The two things definitely recall are he was a massive drifter in the betting, it was more than alarming and yes that poster a week later adorning the bookies ring.
At the end of the day 12/1 said it all. ( For a champion).
He would be up on his stand - thus higher than you and looking down at you - and in a strong confident voice he would yell out continually
" Board odds i lay - who knows them - who knows them - Board odds i lay "
In other words - come on all you suckers - bet with me - because im going to win and all you lot are going to lose - lol
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Whether being on course or not - don't think is a requirement to know something about the game. John Hawkes for a long time has very rarely attended race meeting's - his opinion is pretty valid. Lyoyd Williams another - they both know a bit about the racing game.
They've been to the track more times than we've had bets - the fact they rarely go now doesn't diminish their knowledge one iota.
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Before that - i use to go the Syd gallops and enjoyed it - however race clubs are the most miserable baarstards put on this earth
When i use to go to Randwick - there was a cafateria - sit in where you could get a meal - hot meat and vegetables - i use to say allways to the women serving i will have double vegetables and pay for them - because they were so lousy with the portions
Race clubs - they are so lousy - they can go to bugggery - i can sit in the comfort of my home and watch everything - i can flick channels and watch any sport i want - a great nights entertainment - who would bother going to the track
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Pre pay tv and pre - race vision in the TABs - i use to catch the train on a Monday night ( and it was a fair way out- and i was working at the time ) to either Bankstown or Fairfield Trots - they use to alternate on Monday nights - there was a 20 strong bookies ring at either venue - and i enjoyed going . Both tracks you could watch the horses parade in the birdcage and that
Wouldnt do that for quids today though - on the train - you would either get bashed - or somebody would try to blow it up -lol
But i can see your point of view - your an owner and like going to see how they go - and good luck to you
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Just remember reading something about that frustration - may have been more the races.
The funny thing is now odds go up like on a Wednesday for a Saturday!! But sometimes bookies on track were a little tad off the mark to get the odds up.