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WA Derby - In The Know

Terry Leighton | Metropolitan Racing | Wed 5 April, 2017

A lot of punters are often guided by comments or betting moves from stables. We hear 'she's flying' or 'she's the best horse I've had'. We see massive amounts of money and serious plunges for these horses on the back of this stable confidence. But how often are the stables incorrect? Or how often does the brilliance in training not equate to brilliance on the race track. Or at least brilliance over a longer journey. Chris Mayne may be great on the training track but it doesn't mean he can kick the ball straight on game day.

Watching Very Tempting knock off Royal Star in the WA Oaks got me comparing her to how Delicacy was viewed early in her three year old career. William Pike obviously gets his choice of mounts for the Bob Peters yard but in Delicacy's first ten starts he only rode her twice. During this period he opted for Western Belle, Silverstream, Disposition, Mambokadzi (it's likely on this occasion the stable opted for the claim and it wasn't his choice), Neverland (several times). Out of these ten occasions only twice did Pike's mount beat Delicacy home.

Very Tempting has now had 5 starts this campaign with Pike yet to elect to ride her. Post race last week Bob Peters said all things being equal he expects Royal Star to turn the tables on Very Tempting in the Derby. Post barrier draw I probably agree. But, we heard very similar noises about Neverland being a far superior horse in 2015. I am not saying we have another Delicacy on our hands but it is clear Very Tempting has got under everyone's (including the owners) nose this campaign. Realistically Royal Star had every chance to get past Very Tempting in the Oaks. Despite the barrier draw, can she knock off Royal Star again and claim the mantle as WA's best 3 year old?
 

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Sticks 07 Apr | Posts: 509

gatting was super when winning. Drawing 4 he should settle closer and will take some running down. Set for this race $5 after the scratching is stealing IMO. 

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Underpants 07 Apr | Posts: 17

What do you guys make of the times run in the oaks in previous years.. They ran it 5 seconds quicker two weeks ago compared to last year when first impression and Arcadia dream ran 1/2 Then the year before when Delicacy won it she ran it 4 seconds slower...

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action 07 Apr | Posts: 18

Hi All,Sorry to go back to the past but what happened to Awaken after winning the 1000 Guineas?

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Chris 07 Apr | Posts: 3486

I sure hope you're right, the $21 looks good nowDendee has been well backed too

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udontknow 07 Apr | Posts: 264

ROYAL STAR SCRATCHED My selections is last start maiden winner ROCK WITH YOU

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udontknow 06 Apr | Posts: 264

Royal Star & saver on Rock With You

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Tivers 06 Apr | Posts: 6185

5 days ago, not two weeks.So if they did it 5 secs quicker than last year they certainly weren't taking it easy and saving it for the back up.

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RIO 06 Apr | Posts: 12887

What do you guys make of the times run in the oaks in previous years.. They ran it 5 seconds quicker two weeks ago compared to last year when first impression and Arcadia dream ran 1/2 Then the year before when Delicacy won it she ran it 4 seconds slower...

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carey 06 Apr | Posts: 5571

if my stuff was right, and i'm not saying it is(!!), then.from 2012-2017 in ascending order.....2016  582015  632013  722017  772014  822012  83those numbers basically mean that 82 is 5 metres per 1000 metres faster than 77, which...

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hash 05 Apr | Posts: 5139

What do you guys make of the times run in the oaks in previous years.. They ran it 5 seconds quicker two weeks ago compared to last year when first impression and Arcadia dream ran 1/2 Then the year before when Delicacy won it she ran it 4 seconds slower...