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Right Time's Last Race

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PCPC    2,265 posts

Hi all,

I know one of the owners of Right Time. This is Right Time's last race before heading back to South Australia. The owner I know is part of a syndicate and the lease runs out which means Right Time will be sent back to South Australia and will race in South Australia with its original owner.

 

This horse has won be some cash for me along the way. A handy bread-and-butter horse on it's day. I hope Right Time runs well in the Listed H.G Bolton Sprint (1200m) on Saturday. It's a WA horse, was bought at the WA sales I think. Some South Australian person bought it and then leased it and as we know it's been running in WA.

Not sure how it will go in South Australia results wise but I will keep an eye on it.

 

Cheers,

PC.

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  • rooboyrooboy    1,437 posts

    PC, I also wish the owners well, and now it makes sense why RT has had a long prep.It was a tired horse 2 starts ago and 1st horse beaten last start with bar plates on, and now the poor thing has to cope with a slow track.Good luck RT in SA as I shall be backing you with shorter preps and good feet!

  • theketaminekidtheketaminekid    479 posts
    Horse is not right they are trying to get the last ounce out of it would not go near it tomorrow. if I leased it would do the same thing to be honest.
  • PCPC    2,265 posts

    Yeah I told the owner I know this. Right Time is better in short sharp spurts. Interestingly though, the owners thing it will run a good race. Place chance or even win.

     

    But yeah I agree, it's a been a long prep - too long for my liking. Paying $21 for the win and $5.20 for the place when I had a small bet on it on the fixed odds earlier today on Friday arvo.

     

    Honestly, I can't see it doing well but I hope it runs a respectable race.

     

     

     

  • scenic11scenic11    231 posts
    Been a good horse to them,earned $330k. Hope they send him back sound and not broken down.
  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    edited July 2013

    I also told  the owner I know that Right Time seems to be ridden wrong. Personally I would like Right Time ridden in about 3rd or 4th spot but in recent times he is near the front and sometimes in front and then in the last 300m or 250m of the race, the other horses overtake him and swamp him. Don't ride Right Time so that he is a sitting duck in front.

     

    Maybe I'm just from the Bart Cummings school in that Bart never likes his horses ridden in front because neither do I, but it takes a good horse to lead all the way.

    I say ride Right Time a bit quieter - not too far back, but in about 3rd or 4th spot and then let him go with 250m to go.

     

    Just my thoughts and I'm probably wrong. Paul Jordan and co know best.

  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    edited July 2013

    Horse is not right they are trying to get the last ounce out of it would not go near it tomorrow. if I leased it would do the same thing to be honest.




    Right Time has won a bit more that

     

    28 Starts: 8-5-3

     

     

    http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/Racing/horse.aspx?horse_code=919357

     

     

    Prize money: $389,350

     

    If it manages to win it will break the $400k barrier.

  • scenic11scenic11    231 posts
    On CRIS Right Time has won just under $330k.
    The rest must be Westspeed which goes to the owner NOT the leasee.
  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    scenic11 said:

    On CRIS Right Time has won just under $330k.
    The rest must be Westspeed which goes to the owner NOT the leasee.



    Yeah and I go by the Racing Victoria website. Fairly accurate website too.

  • LuckyLongshotsLuckyLongshots    4,270 posts
    Whatever you do, just don't go by RISA for WA prizemoney
  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,833 posts
    Australian Studbook recognises all money earn't. 
  • MeatheadMeathead    130 posts
    Also a mate with an owner of this horse and we agree it's a total disgrace its running. The horse isn't right and they will not get a cheque out of it.

    They've been lucky enough to lease a horse which has made them some good cash and given them plenty of enjoyment. I'm not sure if Right Time or Our Ol Fella has been flogged more this campaign.
  • MeatheadMeathead    130 posts
    And how has Jordan got away with the bar shoes coming off as a late gear change after last week when they went off late.

    Punters got bent over last week taking the early $4 or so and then it's announced the shoes go on and you can get upwards of $7.

    Absolute joke
  • PCPC    2,265 posts

    At least Right Time tried. But it's obvious he needs a spell now. A really long rest. Hopefully he is treated better in South Australia and not run into the ground.

  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Hey meathead do u call your self hoops at all hehhe.
  • JayJayJayJay    8,266 posts
    29 starts in nearly 3 years is being flogged?
  • rooboyrooboy    1,437 posts
    Its not the 29 starts, its the longest prep for the horse Jay. It should of been spelled 2 or 3 starts ago, as RT only goes well from short preps. The syndicate only wanted extra money before it goes back to SA, and failed!!!
  • JayJayJayJay    8,266 posts
    Point taken. Looking up its record its 8 wins have been over 1000m. And mostly early in preps.
  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    Owners have had a big result with no training costs.

    Did the owners offer a lease extension?
  • gojimmygojimmy    6 posts

    Fastmoney - Owners had a big result with no training costs ?, you obviously know nothing about leasing, the syndicates leasing the horse pay for all of the training/vet fees whilst they have the lease, once you take out owner, jockey and trainer percentages from earnings you are left with 60%, also in this case the owner kept all bonuses which were 60k, so the syndicate has recieved 60% of 330k - about $180k (still very good), take out the training fees for 3 years and I think the syndicate is left with about 110k or so..pretty sure the syndicate had about 20+ members so hardly a huge individual return for each share - but we are very happy with how our time with Jimmy has turned out and hopefully a lot of the syndicate will re-invest into the industry and go around again.

    Generally the people I know in our syndiicate were there for the thrill and experience of being a part owner no matter how small the share - we have had an excellent time with Jimmy he has been a great horse for us -

    Paul Jordan has done an excellent job - the horse has not been "flogged" at all, this prep went for a fair while, but if you have a look at how spaced his runs were (a few nearly 5 weeks apart) - rooboy you're last comment is a long way off the mark and incorrect, running the horse was always left to Paul and he wouldn't have run him if there was any danger of him breaking down...Paul thought the horse had earned the riight to run in a couple of big races to finish off here so he gave him the chance to do that..nothing to do with us chasing extra money.. 

  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    Gojimmy I was referring to the owners who leased the horse to the syndicate.

    The syndicate is referred to as the lessee not the owner.
  • gojimmygojimmy    6 posts
    Sorry mate, by the time I got to your post I was a little peeved with the other incorrect assumptions on how the horse had been handled and why he was still running etc...my bad, but yes, nothing against the owner but he would be smiling, the horse got passed in for 23k when he tried to sell it at the sales, hence him then leasing it out, he would be well and truly happy with how it has turned out.
  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    No probs.
  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    The same syndicate have basically done a straight swap (to lease) with the half brother?
  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    Fastmoney said:

    Owners have had a big result with no training costs.

    Did the owners offer a lease extension?


    I know one of the owners involved in the lease for Right Time and the horse is going back to it's original owner in South Australia and will race there.
  • gojimmygojimmy    6 posts

    I am one of the "owners" (lessors) of Right Time, we were offered to go into the half brother but as far as I know most didn't take up the option, I don't know everyone in the syndicate though as there were many so can only speak for the guys I do know, and none of them took up the offer - so no there was no straight swap to the other horse.

    There was no offer for extension of lease for Right Time, we were asked if we wished to purchase the horse outright but we knocked it back, part of the syndicate made an offer which wasn't accepted by the owner hence he is going to South Australia to race for him.

  • rooboyrooboy    1,437 posts
    Fair call gojimmy! I have never owned or leased a horse so really i cant comment. Sounds like you guys have had a great time with RT, as other owners or lessors would gladly be in your shoes.I think my boss has leased 4 to 5 horses with 1 win and about 2 placings. Just gets up my nose a bit when i see a late change of bar plates on after a long prep, even tho it had a small break between runs. Just for my info jimmy, did it have sore feet or just a precaution 2 starts ago? Cheers.
  • raconteurraconteur    610 posts
    Good luck to the owners and well done PJordan for his handling of RT - just a shame about the one that got  away - the Northam Stakes !
  • PCPC    2,265 posts
    raconteur said:

    Good luck to the owners and well done PJordan for his handling of RT - just a shame about the one that got  away - the Northam Stakes !




    Yeah Right Time ran really well in the Northam Stakes. The one that got away for sure. Right Time certainly deserves a black type (Group/Listed) win and it's a shame he couldn't win a black type race in WA, hopefully he can win a black type race in South Australia.

     

    Cheers.

  • gojimmygojimmy    6 posts

    Rooboy, I have been overseas and the week he had the bar shoes put on, bar plates were for precaution more than anything as far as I know (but then I wasn't here so didn't get to talk to Paul and staff at the track which I normally would have), I backed him on player on the thursday night, only to find out about the bar shoes on the saturday, so I did my bucks well and truly.

    I really hope he does well in SA as I really enjoyed the experience he gave us the last 3 years.....

  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    PC said:

    raconteur said:

    Good luck to the owners and well done PJordan for his handling of RT - just a shame about the one that got  away - the Northam Stakes !




    Yeah Right Time ran really well in the Northam Stakes. The one that got away for sure. Right Time certainly deserves a black type (Group/Listed) win and it's a shame he couldn't win a black type race in WA, hopefully he can win a black type race in South Australia.

     

    Cheers.

    Had three tries at Listed and wasnt up to it PC. 
    Northam sprint was beaten on his merits by Beach Express....no super star, but an improving horse nonetheless.
    Definitely not a 1200m horse and most likely not a black type proposition. Just my opinion.

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