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Rebel King v Sheidel

West Australian Racing
MobileLinkMobileLink    398 posts
edited June 2014 West Australian Racing
Rebel King the boom 2 yr old has looked great an superior In his races so far

Biggest test so far carrying a big weight against Sheidel who has looked very impressive carrying 54

Rebel King should brain them but can Sheidel give the hot pot a run for his money

I think it will be a lot harder for Rebel King this week

Thoughts ?
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  • GrayGray    4,090 posts
    I am throwing in Sass N Glam to rock the boat this week

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  • trevydardstrevydards    652 posts
    Surprised they didn't try take rebel king on this week with the 60kgs and bar plates over the 1000m $1.35 are silly odds to play at.

    Sass 'n' glam for me. She is fresh off a spell and meets Rebel King 5kg better off from her 4 length defeat. I think if she goes straight to the front they should fine it hard to run her down. $6.50 the place looks a good price with a spec on the win.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Im a times man so based on that RK will smash them Shiedel been running against crabs and  about 6-8L slower weight wont matter over 5 furlongs RK a special w might get 1.60 ?

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  • MobileLinkMobileLink    398 posts
    dungy said:

    Im a times man so based on that RK will smash them Shiedel been running against crabs and  about 6-8L slower weight wont matter over 5 furlongs RK a special w might get 1.60 ?

    Tend to agree 1.60 would be great times is the key

    Sheidel looks promising but no Rebel King

    I saw sass n glam win at Ascot Midweek nice type but I think rebel king has SNG covered already smashed that horse
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  • CarlosaCarlosa    1,287 posts
    Rebel King by 7

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  • GaryHGaryH    1,012 posts
    edited June 2014
    trevydards said:

    Surprised they didn't try take rebel king on this week with the 60kgs and bar plates over the 1000m

    The bar plates didn't effect him last start.  Being on the rear, I think they're just a precaution more then anything of trouble.

    I just want to see a good race, and him to win by 1 length (winning by 7 doesn't increase the prize money!) :|
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  • MeatheadMeathead    130 posts
    Not saying Rebel King will lose but you can't compare times from different days and different track conditions.

    Both of Sheidels wins have been on rain affected tracks.

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  • MobileLinkMobileLink    398 posts
    On paper the all up of

    Rebel King

    Surjet

    Ranger

    Looks a shots eye but as we know on paper means nothing hot pots get beat every day an 7-1 odd the result looks very short
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  • octaviusoctavius    2,290 posts

    You lost me at Ranger...these black type races in Perth are terrible betting propositions...


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  • MobileLinkMobileLink    398 posts
    octavius said:

    You lost me at Ranger...these black type races in Perth are terrible betting propositions...


    Yep an our main race tomorrow is a shocker more traps than I don't know what farcical pace

    Wonder if Sheidel will sit outside RK to niggle him on the pace
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  • JordanJordan    1,827 posts
    Gaz and Tivs won't be happy with me but he will brain them !!

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Sigh...................Ok,
    Observations on comments above :
    1. Pointless comparing times, as RK hasn't gone more than jogging pace in any of his wins. Has run faster times in track gallops (video footage on our stalkbook page if anyone would like to see).
    2. Think Sheidel et al will be concentrating on the other runners and maximising their chances of the $12k prize for second rather than worrying about RK.

    Anyway..................win, lose or draw - may the sun shine, the skirts be short, the tops be low, and the beer flow freely. Here's to the weekend !

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  • GaryHGaryH    1,012 posts
    Tivers said:

    Anyway..................win, lose or draw - may the sun shine, the skirts be short, the tops be low, and the beer flow freely. Here's to the weekend !

    Not going to the track to watch the race then?! 

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  • MobileLinkMobileLink    398 posts
    Anyone see Angel Sky win that trial ?

    Pike/Williams combo by hurricane sky
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  • MountainMountain    73 posts
    http://www.rwwa.com.au/home/is-rebel-king-of-the-hill-20263.html
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  • JordanJordan    1,827 posts
    Interesting read
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    edited June 2014
    Castle Retreat @ 16/1 sounds good to me
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  • WinsumlosesumWinsumlosesum    138 posts
    edited June 2014
    Maybe they should be taking bets on wether Kennedy will need to use the whip? I personally don't think so.
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    Winsumlosesum said:

    Maybe they should be taking bets on wether Kennedy will need to use the whip? I personally don't think so.


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  • SHOVHOGSHOVHOG    1,792 posts
    edited June 2014
    Rebel King is poison odds. The 2 horses that have ran second to RK haven't even gone close to winning at their next start. Hasn't gone out of second gear yet ? Well even though it's 1000m i would expect with the weight that if he runs a tempo he will be gassed near the 100m mark and that third gear probably wont be there with the weight.

    Just my 2 cents worth and food for thought. Of course he might win by 6 
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  • octaviusoctavius    2,290 posts
    I dare someone to take a decent position against the King and post their evidence here...

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    edited June 2014
    Mountain said:

    http://www.rwwa.com.au/home/is-rebel-king-of-the-hill-20263.html

    so i read that article, and naturally i am interested in where the first 400 metre times came from?
    also, why does the writer of the article not put his/her name to it?
    and then i just reread it, and i think there may be a bit of confusion as regards the 400 that is often stated!
    perhaps the writer meant 600m rather than 400!
    interesting 50 metre average sections too, just wish i knew what the point of them is.

    shovhog.....i think rebel king is very good, and i am not sure if i am correct, but back to 1000m would worry me.
    the other problem is the handicapper.
    they are 2yo's starting out, and there is NO way he knows there is 3.5 kg between a saturday 2yo hcp and a midweek one, especially as rk's last run most of the others were out of the handicap anyway.
    it's a contrived number with no basis in fact.
    still think rk is the winner, but i am glad i don't bet!

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    go to bed mate, you might wake ML etc..... :-bd
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,485 posts
    but he'd be out with edlestons ex, brynne wot ever.....the tart with the big boobs..... :))
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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    I can't say much to knock RK except that if he is as good as what everyone thinks he is why isn't he off to the eastern states for bigger money?
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  • WinsumlosesumWinsumlosesum    138 posts
    Wizard said:

    I can't say much to knock RK except that if he is as good as what everyone thinks he is why isn't he off to the eastern states for bigger money?

    Which 2 year old races would you suggest would be worth going over east for right now?

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  • notapuntanotapunta    938 posts
    I'm not gonna put money on him but I hope Rebel King does it again. Don't know any of the connections but good on them and congrats :D

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  • WizardWizard    3,611 posts
    Winsumlosesum said:

    Wizard said:

    I can't say much to knock RK except that if he is as good as what everyone thinks he is why isn't he off to the eastern states for bigger money?

    Which 2 year old races would you suggest would be worth going over east for right now?
    I haven't had a good look around but there is one over ther tomorrow for $80,000 and I'm sure there are more.
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  • ColdyColdy    1,720 posts
    What no mention of old mate hsky family blowing crap out of race. If there was to be an upset it would be Angel Sky!   lot of folks bitch and moan no ones tips to my old school friends here they know  im all over this like a fly on a turd, regardless its spruik. has stuff all chance of beating topy, but im sure some one out there knows the patterns . And sometimes it time to play the game 
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  • ColdyColdy    1,720 posts
    Need a swimmer if your in vic atm, wheather is cold wet winding and get bogged in my own driveway if i did not have a 4wd , so be farking bonkers to send one over 
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