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  • Unknown
    20,000 first class runs - makes one duck and look who pops up with a comment :roll:
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Worst cricket match I've ever attended last night............utter crap !


    Re Huss - he would seriously be on the brink on not being picked for the first test.
    Will need a big 100 this match or next to save himself I'd think.
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  • octaviusoctavius    2,290 posts
    said:

    Worst cricket match I've ever attended last night............utter crap !


    Re Huss - he would seriously be on the brink on not being picked for the first test.
    Will need a big 100 this match or next to save himself I'd think.

    sshhhhh, don't say that, Della might cry!
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  • octaviusoctavius    2,290 posts
    Hussey adds another 3 to his 20,000 run career...

    Time to drop him and send a message that we don't accept failure, no matter who you are, I have and will always be a big fan of Huss but his international test career should be over, bring in the young blood.

    Time to give somebody a chance to ignite their career on the biggest 5 day stage in the business.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    North century

    Won't be him getting dropped (over Hussey)
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Typical !
    Got out the moment I posted that.

    Told ya Hashy...................we can stop em !!!
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  • PrecisionPrecision    295 posts
    I remember not that long ago we were discussing who should replace North if he was to go and i suggested Shaun Marsh. Someone else (Funkster i think) went at great lengths to tell me how Mitch was already better and should be in contention for an Aussie gig, Shaun was too loose outside off stump from memory.

    Shaun Marsh makes 137 and 89 for this current match and again i say he is one of the most consistant batsman in Australia in all forms of the game.

    Mitch Marsh has a first class average of 19 before this match, has now scored 44 runs in his last 9 first class innings. Not exactly screaming out for National honours would you say?
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    And just got out for 6

    Although it is junk time now, just before match called off
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  • rellecherelleche    99 posts
    said:

    Hussey adds another 3 to his 20,000 run career...

    Time to drop him and send a message that we don't accept failure, no matter who you are, I have and will always be a big fan of Huss but his international test career should be over, bring in the young blood.

    Time to give somebody a chance to ignite their career on the biggest 5 day stage in the business.[/quo

    This coming from someone who keeps defending those duds from wet toast? By your rekoning you should be sacking half of them :lol:

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  • DanDan    111 posts
    Would think North should go before Hussey. North is a 100 or nothing man, where as you atleast you know what you get from Hussey.

    Australia's batting is fragile, and if a young batsman is making a case for inclusion (Ferguson) I would think he should get the nod.

    Saying all that, North made a ton in his last test, and his bowling may be thought to be handy to supplement Hauritz (who isn't really a spinner).

    So what will happen is that the selectors will go unchaged with the batting line up, and Haddin replaces Payne at 7. Which in my opinion is a mistake, but am happy for to happen as I hope England win 5-0.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
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    Saying all that, North made a ton in his last test, and his bowling may be thought to be handy to supplement Hauritz (who isn't really a spinner).

    And another two since.

    Hussey has made 3 (runs, not century's)
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  • octaviusoctavius    2,290 posts
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    This coming from someone who keeps defending those duds from wet toast? By your rekoning you should be sacking half of them :lol:

    You and dungy wouldn't have a brain cell to share.

    I defend the young under performing players at West Coast not the older ones.

    Mike Hussey is 36 next year hence the reason I am calling for his head on the back of 2 years of poor performances at test level.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    I remember not that long ago we were discussing who should replace North if he was to go and i suggested Shaun Marsh. Someone else (Funkster i think) went at great lengths to tell me how Mitch was already better and should be in contention for an Aussie gig, Shaun was too loose outside off stump from memory.

    Shaun Marsh makes 137 and 89 for this current match and again i say he is one of the most consistant batsman in Australia in all forms of the game.

    Mitch Marsh has a first class average of 19 before this match, has now scored 44 runs in his last 9 first class innings. Not exactly screaming out for National honours would you say?

    Have a look at the pic of SoS in today's West. The pic emphasisies my point about his technical flaws.
    Should be a text book off drive with his nose over the ball, but his weight is back, which has resulted in his back leg collapsing and the ball going in the air....
    A very good one day player, where technique isn't that important.

    I agree Mitch is probably still 12 months away, although could stake a claim as a geniune all-rounder.
    Khawaja and Ferguson would be under consideration.

    As much as I admire the guy, if Hussey doesn't get runs between now and the first test then his spot is in jeopardy.
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  • PrecisionPrecision    295 posts
    Technique is being proven to be over rated, examples such as Sewhag, Hughes and even a guy like Marcus Trescothic. It's about runs not how you do it and Shaun is making them or is 230 for the match not enough for you?

    And Mitch Marsh is just over rated plain and simple. Genuine all-rounder? Wouldn't that require wickets first? I keep hearing he bowls 140km/h yet everytime he's on fox he's lucky to be hitting 130, no doubt he'll improve but man he's had it easy to be where he is. A guy like Swart has hab to churn out runs for years to get his opportunity and he's taken it, Mitch needs to go back to grade cricket and earn his spot.
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  • danishdanish    96 posts
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    Technique is being proven to be over rated, examples such as Sewhag, Hughes and even a guy like Marcus Trescothic. It's about runs not how you do it and Shaun is making them or is 230 for the match not enough for you?

    And Mitch Marsh is just over rated plain and simple. Genuine all-rounder? Wouldn't that require wickets first? I keep hearing he bowls 140km/h yet everytime he's on fox he's lucky to be hitting 130, no doubt he'll improve but man he's had it easy to be where he is. A guy like Swart has hab to churn out runs for years to get his opportunity and he's taken it, Mitch needs to go back to grade cricket and earn his spot.

    Lack of technique was why Hughes got found out in about 5 mins of international cricket.
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  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    You can talk up technique all day if you want and it won't make a lick of difference. Cricket at that level is played between the ears. Talk of techique and breaking it down to what the text book says is for couch legends and newspaper hacks who want to make themselves sound good.

    From what I have seen of Shaun Marsh of late at international level it is indicative of someone not watching the ball or playing a lazy shot. They're mental issues that need to be ironed out through a nice chat with a senior player. Unfortunately those guys seem to have their own issues at the moment so probably can't help.
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  • PrecisionPrecision    295 posts
    said:

    said:

    Technique is being proven to be over rated, examples such as Sewhag, Hughes and even a guy like Marcus Trescothic. It's about runs not how you do it and Shaun is making them or is 230 for the match not enough for you?

    And Mitch Marsh is just over rated plain and simple. Genuine all-rounder? Wouldn't that require wickets first? I keep hearing he bowls 140km/h yet everytime he's on fox he's lucky to be hitting 130, no doubt he'll improve but man he's had it easy to be where he is. A guy like Swart has hab to churn out runs for years to get his opportunity and he's taken it, Mitch needs to go back to grade cricket and earn his spot.

    Lack of technique was why Hughes got found out in about 5 mins of international cricket.
    Is that why he only averages 51.25 in Test cricket?
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Averages considerably less since teams worked out where to bowl to him.

    By the way Sehwag has a very good technique. Balanced, still head, plays straight and hits thru the line of the ball
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  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    Sehwag has a very good technique for a lumberjack. Balanced, head still, swings straight through the line.

    He's one of those guys at the top level I'm talking about. It's all upstairs for him. If he is low in confidence or not 100% switched on he won't be able to eek out tough runs. But when he's on he just sees the ball and hits it. Great stuff, but you wouldn't teach a kid to bat like that unless you recognised he had that level of ability. Just because he scores runs doesn't mean he is technically sound.
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Brad Hodge averages 55.88
    Don't see him getting a game.
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  • danishdanish    96 posts
    said:

    said:

    said:

    Technique is being proven to be over rated, examples such as Sewhag, Hughes and even a guy like Marcus Trescothic. It's about runs not how you do it and Shaun is making them or is 230 for the match not enough for you?

    And Mitch Marsh is just over rated plain and simple. Genuine all-rounder? Wouldn't that require wickets first? I keep hearing he bowls 140km/h yet everytime he's on fox he's lucky to be hitting 130, no doubt he'll improve but man he's had it easy to be where he is. A guy like Swart has hab to churn out runs for years to get his opportunity and he's taken it, Mitch needs to go back to grade cricket and earn his spot.

    Lack of technique was why Hughes got found out in about 5 mins of international cricket.
    Is that why he only averages 51.25 in Test cricket?
    the bloke cant play a short ball unless it is two foot outside his offstump
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  • G-MacG-Mac    1,677 posts
    Sehwag is currently putting on a clinic for the Kiwis
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  • Unknown
    Anyone going to the tour match today?
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Only english supporters I suspect.
    It may be pretty ugly the way WA is going....
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Not today, but I'm planning on a look over the weekend
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  • Unknown
    shame we cant bet

    WA will flog there lily white asses I reckon
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    I plan on having a couple of pints and suggesting that to them
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  • PrecisionPrecision    295 posts
    WA 2/0 off 2 overs!
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  • Unknown
    u mean 0/2

    hope we can score a run soon :oops:
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    Might be over before the weekend !!! :oops:
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