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  • [DeletedUser][DeletedUser]    0 posts
    Any tips on the Glading sentence ?
  • PhilipPhilip    9 posts
    Well said westozzy!!!!!! It was what I was trying to say .. 'But it didnt stack up'
  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
    Like most, i don't know all the facts.
    But i would like to know anyones thoughts on how he could have used the device on a horse? Does the rider carry it in his hand?

    In saying that, he would have to be very naive to have such a device on his premises and not think it would be classified as device capable of administering an electric shock to a horse.
    Maybe he should get a min 6 months regardles just for being a tool :idea:
    Not the first story I have heard about this guy that contains a large degree of sheer stupidity..... :roll:
    But he's no orphan there, from people within the racing fraternity.... :lol:
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    said:


    Maybe he should get a min 6 months regardles just for being a tool :idea:
    Not the first story I have heard about this guy that contains a large degree of sheer stupidity..... :roll:
    But he's no orphan there, from people within the racing fraternity.... :lol:

    You'd be rubbing out a fair few in the industry based on that assessment Funkster.
  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    said:

    They now have a test in the US which can detect if a horse has been shocked with any type of electric device,I have changed my thought they will give him 5 years then he will appeal and have it changed to a fine Money talks 8)

    Fair dinkum? How would that work, some sort of scan/radar for tissue affected by the current flow?

    If it existed, it would change the WA racing/training landscape, thats for sure :lol:
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    said:

    Any tips on the Glading sentence ?

    Inquiry Friday.

    Another trainer with poor history.

    Interesting that in time the same names keep bobbing up. I don't know why they get more than one chance. You may wonder why they even get the one chance.
  • TucoolTucool    174 posts
    said:

    said:

    They now have a test in the US which can detect if a horse has been shocked with any type of electric device,I have changed my thought they will give him 5 years then he will appeal and have it changed to a fine Money talks 8)

    Fair dinkum? How would that work, some sort of scan/radar for tissue affected by the current flow?

    If it existed, it would change the WA racing/training landscape, thats for sure :lol:

    There couldn't be a test for a shock,how would it differentiate between a hot wire and something else... who here has never been zapped at sometime or another :lol:
  • DownTheBackDownTheBack    96 posts
    There are a lot of clowns in WA training horses , trust me i have dealt with heaps of them .
    People from other states are laughing at some of the clowns over here .
    This is some of what you get .
    Give me your horse , shut your mouth and pay the bills , ring me but i will never answer the phone , but will ring you back 3 days later , will tell u strait away if your horse is no good .
    However if you ever take the horse off me i will have the biggest dummy spit in history .
  • cubescubes    689 posts
    What a massive generalisation, plenty of cowboys in the East they just charge more.
  • westozzywestozzy    16 posts
    The acceptance by all trainers and owners that there is a culture of the big guy little guy syndrome or if you face fits youll be ok is something that should ring bells of alarm in the industry. An industry that does so much to provide entertainment and employment and reaps huge taxes into government coffers and the states economy. This comes about from the massive investment that ploughed into it and the untiring efforts of the trainers and their staff to provide horse racing as we know it. Therefore its only common sense for the dedicated workers in this industry to expect some professionalism from the people that oversee its operations. This is far from being so, the stewards have become nothing more than a punitive panel, the amicocaproic acid disgrace proved that. Since then these people have gone backwards in their approach to the industry needs. The WA government receives money from the racing codes and should take charge of the quality of the administrators that supposely run it. Its time WA Racing moved into the 21st century and shed the draconian rules and regulations of last century. Inquiries as they exist now have no place in modern racing, the system whereby the chief steward is accuser, judge, jury and exucutioner has had its day and all affiliated racing organisations should lobby government and say we have had enough of this undemocratic ancient system and we want a fair go for everyone whether he has one horse/dog or more.
  • PhilipPhilip    9 posts
    U r spot on westozzy.. Very on to it:-)
  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
    Where did you spring from Westozzy?

    A lot of thought with that post and you are very accurate with your assessment.
  • luckypunterluckypunter    35 posts
    Guess who funkster? Your the tool and a big gronky one at that! :D
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,482 posts
    Completely uncalled for luckypunter... :x
    You pissed or what?
  • ICEICE    683 posts
    said:

    The acceptance by all trainers and owners that there is a culture of the big guy little guy syndrome or if you face fits youll be ok is something that should ring bells of alarm in the industry. An industry that does so much to provide entertainment and employment and reaps huge taxes into government coffers and the states economy. This comes about from the massive investment that ploughed into it and the untiring efforts of the trainers and their staff to provide horse racing as we know it. Therefore its only common sense for the dedicated workers in this industry to expect some professionalism from the people that oversee its operations. This is far from being so, the stewards have become nothing more than a punitive panel, the amicocaproic acid disgrace proved that. Since then these people have gone backwards in their approach to the industry needs. The WA government receives money from the racing codes and should take charge of the quality of the administrators that supposely run it. Its time WA Racing moved into the 21st century and shed the draconian rules and regulations of last century. Inquiries as they exist now have no place in modern racing, the system whereby the chief steward is accuser, judge, jury and exucutioner has had its day and all affiliated racing organisations should lobby government and say we have had enough of this undemocratic ancient system and we want a fair go for everyone whether he has one horse/dog or more.

    Well said 8)
  • westozzywestozzy    16 posts
    Ive been around, takes a bit of research to make sure things are true but more to come......Time for change.
  • cubescubes    689 posts
    said:

    The acceptance by all trainers and owners that there is a culture of the big guy little guy syndrome or if you face fits youll be ok is something that should ring bells of alarm in the industry. An industry that does so much to provide entertainment and employment and reaps huge taxes into government coffers and the states economy. This comes about from the massive investment that ploughed into it and the untiring efforts of the trainers and their staff to provide horse racing as we know it. Therefore its only common sense for the dedicated workers in this industry to expect some professionalism from the people that oversee its operations. This is far from being so, the stewards have become nothing more than a punitive panel, the amicocaproic acid disgrace proved that. Since then these people have gone backwards in their approach to the industry needs. The WA government receives money from the racing codes and should take charge of the quality of the administrators that supposely run it. Its time WA Racing moved into the 21st century and shed the draconian rules and regulations of last century. Inquiries as they exist now have no place in modern racing, the system whereby the chief steward is accuser, judge, jury and exucutioner has had its day and all affiliated racing organisations should lobby government and say we have had enough of this undemocratic ancient system and we want a fair go for everyone whether he has one horse/dog or more.

    MOANS GROANS WHINES and WHINGES. Hmm.
  • silkssilks    53 posts
    :?: :?: :?: Please forgive new to this site, but can u explain why this trainer is still allowed to train when he is on charges of having electrical devises in his possesion. :?
  • hasnt been given any sentence as yet
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,482 posts
    When is Zucal going to put on the black handkerchief... :shock:
  • RazorSharpRazorSharp    439 posts
    Always found Mr Zucal to be one of the fairest Stewards WA have had. I have no doubt Edwards will get a fair hearing and a fair sentence, seeing that he has only been charged alot of you are ranting about what? the sentence has been declared yet.

    Westozzy you think WA are in strife, have a look at SA
  • loose_gooseloose_goose    2,135 posts
    said:

    The acceptance by all trainers and owners that there is a culture of the big guy little guy syndrome or if you face fits youll be ok is something that should ring bells of alarm in the industry. An industry that does so much to provide entertainment and employment and reaps huge taxes into government coffers and the states economy. This comes about from the massive investment that ploughed into it and the untiring efforts of the trainers and their staff to provide horse racing as we know it. Therefore its only common sense for the dedicated workers in this industry to expect some professionalism from the people that oversee its operations. This is far from being so, the stewards have become nothing more than a punitive panel, the amicocaproic acid disgrace proved that. Since then these people have gone backwards in their approach to the industry needs. The WA government receives money from the racing codes and should take charge of the quality of the administrators that supposely run it. Its time WA Racing moved into the 21st century and shed the draconian rules and regulations of last century. Inquiries as they exist now have no place in modern racing, the system whereby the chief steward is accuser, judge, jury and exucutioner has had its day and all affiliated racing organisations should lobby government and say we have had enough of this undemocratic ancient system and we want a fair go for everyone whether he has one horse/dog or more.

    Sounds like the Tom Tom drums a beating, but some commonsense in there.
  • said:

    Any tips on the Glading sentence ?

    $3,000 fine
  • ShatterStarShatterStar    52 posts
    D day for Edwards... Any predictions... Could he actually dodge a bullet..
  • RazorSharpRazorSharp    439 posts
    Reg Rayment to take over the team :wink:
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,482 posts
    I've said all along, I reckon a fine.... :shock:
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Gee there is a blast from the past Reggy Rayment trained the great Rare Flyer
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,482 posts
    I think he's Edward's foreman...
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    RR is Edwards foreman ??? he must be in his 70s for sure
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,482 posts
    I think he's 77, but its not he who could/may/perhaps take over the team.
    Any news on a verdict?
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