AFL Round 11

Tivers · June 2011

Simple rationale is...............
Would you prefer : Pavlich, Fyfe and Hill
Or : two Fyfe's, two Hills and no Pav ?

Probably left it too late now

goose · June 2011

One of the most painful losses I have sat through listening to Liam Pickering's (banker) shite needed more ticker today??
Ibbotson and Johnson please trade them asap too many short steps at the contest wont be missed.
Ballantine use your brain prepared to forgive Pav is not Carey or Brown Dungy thought you would have realised by now still handy. Need to trade to GWS next year for some new talent.

dungy · June 2011

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One of the most painful losses I have sat through listening to Liam Pickering's (banker) shite needed more ticker today??
Ibbotson and Johnson please trade them asap too many short steps at the contest wont be missed.
Ballantine use your brain prepared to forgive Pav is not Carey or Brown Dungy thought you would have realised by now still handy. Need to trade to GWS next year for some new talent.

Thought Greg Broughton was very good again get Barlow back in 4-5 weeks and Pav down to fwd line PERIOD !!!!

TheFunkster · June 2011

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I susted a couple of years ago that Freo should, all emotion aside, trade Pav (for a couple of first round picks before the compromised drafts kicked in) and got shot down by all and sundry.........
Do over anyone ?

Nup, has 2 average games and the tall poppy knockers come out.....
If played full time at CHF would not even be a topic, but have been robbing Peter to pay Paul with all our midfield injuries.
Him and Goodes are probably the only 2 players in the league who r capable of playing midfield & key forward.

TheFunkster · June 2011

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Simple rationale is...............
Would you prefer : Pavlich, Fyfe and Hill
Or : two Fyfe's, two Hills and no Pav ?

Probably left it too late now

No way can any side afford to carry 2 players like Hill.
Yes can hurt you going forward, but doesn't win enough contested ball. His defensive skills were better today, but overall are lacking.
More than happy to trade him and I would STILL prefer Rich over Hill.

TheFunkster · June 2011

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One of the most painful losses I have sat through listening to Liam Pickering's (banker) shite needed more ticker today??
Ibbotson and Johnson please trade them asap too many short steps at the contest wont be missed.
Ballantine use your brain prepared to forgive Pav is not Carey or Brown Dungy thought you would have realised by now still handy. Need to trade to GWS next year for some new talent.
Thought Greg Broughton was very good again get Barlow back in 4-5 weeks and Pav down to fwd line PERIOD !!!!

Barlow will be back in 2 (as sub). Also back by next bye; Hayden, Silvagni and Sandilands.
Thought Griffin was ok again and Clarke ok in patches. I can see Freo playing 2 ruckmen when Sandi returns.

Need Hayden down back so can keep Broughton midfield. Silvagni to replace Johnson.

Once again today too many passengers. At least 6 guys out there that dont deserve to be getting a game.

TorpedoPunt · June 2011

Johnson, needs a spell in the WAFL.

Been ordinary all season.

TheFunkster · June 2011

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Johnson, needs a spell in the WAFL.

Been ordinary all season.

Abolutely! Problem is our current choices are Johnson, Schammer & Hinkley :? :cry:

dungy · June 2011

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I susted a couple of years ago that Freo should, all emotion aside, trade Pav (for a couple of first round picks before the compromised drafts kicked in) and got shot down by all and sundry.........
Do over anyone ?
Nup, has 2 average games and the tall poppy knockers come out.....
If played full time at CHF would not even be a topic, but have been robbing Peter to pay Paul with all our midfield injuries.
Him and Goodes are probably the only 2 players in the league who r capable of playing midfield & key forward.

Funky he [Pav] wouldnt have polled a Brownlow vote upto now so id say its been more than 2 games and its not about that as Brad Hardie said after the game we lacked leadership again out there today when the game hangs in the balance he went missing Pav is a brilliant player but not a leaders asshole bit like Glen Jakovich brilliaint player one of the greats but as Mick Malthouse once said not captain material Peter Bell now there was a captain

TheFunkster · June 2011

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Funky he [Pav] wouldnt have polled a Brownlow vote upto now so id say its been more than 2 games and its not about that as Brad Hardie said after the game we lacked leadership again out there today when the game hangs in the balance he went missing Pav is a brilliant player but not a leaders asshole bit like Glen Jakovich brilliaint player one of the greats but as Mick Malthouse once said not captain material Peter Bell now there was a captain

Once we start taking any notice of what Brad Hardie has to say we are in strife....

And i'll give you 5/1 if you want to back him not polling to date?
Fyfe, Mundy, Sandi & Pav r probably the only 4 players that have polled - and consistently contributed. :roll:

Rhino · June 2011

little frodo Ballantyne would have polled against the kangas for sure

Jordan · June 2011

Sorry fellas but that was hilarious when pav dropped the ball inside his defensive 50 and Sam Mitchell scored :lol:

dungy · June 2011

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Sorry fellas but that was hilarious when pav dropped the ball inside his defensive 50 and Sam Mitchell scored :lol:

Agree mate he looks like and is playing like a bloke going through the motions he hasnt showed a drop of leadership this year IMO

octavius · June 2011

Essendon v Freo this week is year defining for both clubs I reckon, neither can afford to drop this one if they want to play finals.

TheFunkster · June 2011

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I susted a couple of years ago that Freo should, all emotion aside, trade Pav (for a couple of first round picks before the compromised drafts kicked in) and got shot down by all and sundry.........
Do over anyone ?
Nup, has 2 average games and the tall poppy knockers come out.....
If played full time at CHF would not even be a topic, but have been robbing Peter to pay Paul with all our midfield injuries.
Him and Goodes are probably the only 2 players in the league who r capable of playing midfield & key forward.
Funky he [Pav] wouldnt have polled a Brownlow vote upto now so id say its been more than 2 games and its not about that as Brad Hardie said after the game we lacked leadership again out there today when the game hangs in the balance he went missing Pav is a brilliant player but not a leaders asshole bit like Glen Jakovich brilliaint player one of the greats but as Mick Malthouse once said not captain material Peter Bell now there was a captain

According to Gerard Healy Pav is carrying an injury, which is probably why he spent more time down forward. Sat was his first game this year he had less than 20 posessions.
And people want to knock him.... :roll:

goose · June 2011

Also have been told or was reported? Micheal Johnson has osteitis pubis which explains his sluggish style and Ibbotson has burst blood vessel in gland or hand may explain one handed efforts.
What is with the injury curse down there?

dungy · June 2011

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I susted a couple of years ago that Freo should, all emotion aside, trade Pav (for a couple of first round picks before the compromised drafts kicked in) and got shot down by all and sundry.........
Do over anyone ?
Nup, has 2 average games and the tall poppy knockers come out.....
If played full time at CHF would not even be a topic, but have been robbing Peter to pay Paul with all our midfield injuries.
Him and Goodes are probably the only 2 players in the league who r capable of playing midfield & key forward.
Funky he [Pav] wouldnt have polled a Brownlow vote upto now so id say its been more than 2 games and its not about that as Brad Hardie said after the game we lacked leadership again out there today when the game hangs in the balance he went missing Pav is a brilliant player but not a leaders asshole bit like Glen Jakovich brilliaint player one of the greats but as Mick Malthouse once said not captain material Peter Bell now there was a captain
According to Gerard Healy Pav is carrying an injury, which is probably why he spent more time down forward. Sat was his first game this year he had less than 20 posessions.
And people want to knock him.... :roll:

And just because Gerard Healy says it on the Couch its correct ???Pleaseeeee all im saying Funk is he is not playing like he normally does and his leadership is lacking and thats the truth there was no talking or revving the blokes up going into the last quarter on Sunday thats my point

Blake · June 2011

I cannot beleive people are jumping on Pav's back because of a few not so great games. The bloke has carried the joint for 10 years!!! Without him they'd have a cabinet full of spoons.

those who knock superstars invariably end up with egg on face.

darkshines · June 2011

EXACTLY.

FFS what club would trade a captain, arguable champion who stayed for less money (loyalty) more than once in resisting going home . . . . to stay at a club that hasn't had much success. And you people question his leadership???? Faaaaaaaaaair dinkum . . . . . . .

I know a club that would pull something like that. Richmond :roll:

Don't worry about injury, Ibbotson is plain no good, never has been. Can anyone tell me when he's been given a big job and won?

We are a bit like Marasco, when everything is right our best is fantastic, but if one factor is out of kilter or doesnt suit we are ordinary. At the moment its fair to say injuries are that factor.

TheFunkster · June 2011

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According to Gerard Healy Pav is carrying an injury, which is probably why he spent more time down forward. Sat was his first game this year he had less than 20 posessions.
And people want to knock him.... :roll:
And just because Gerard Healy says it on the Couch its correct ???

Yep! Is well connected and as soon as he said it Mike Sheehan stopped his criticism of Pav's form - i.e. accepted it as true and didn't dispute for 1 second.
There are some people in the media who you can believe, GH being one of them. None that I can think of in WA though.....all too scared of being black-listed by the Weagles.

Don't know about Johnson's reported O.P. Regardless, on form should not be playing.

Agree with DS; Ibbo is ordinary, average at best. For some reason Harvey loves him....good to see the love for JVB finally starting to wane :P

Dec · June 2011

If I hear once more about Freo's injuries I may vomit. Have a look your opponent's injury list from the weekend, Buddy, Bateman, Renouf, Hale, Gilham, Stratton, Bruce and Ellis. Probably more out of their best side than Freo. The Dockers simply lay down in the last qtr on the weekend, just as they did against Saints the week before.

Tivers · June 2011

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FFS what club would trade a captain, arguable champion who stayed for less money (loyalty) more than once in resisting going home . . . . to stay at a club that hasn't had much success.

Because you're not going to win a flag with him (no fault of his), but with two more 1st round picks the age and ilk of Fyfe / Hill et al, you may have.

dungy · June 2011

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If I hear once more about Freo's injuries I may vomit. Have a look your opponent's injury list from the weekend, Buddy, Bateman, Renouf, Hale, Gilham, Stratton, Bruce and Ellis. Probably more out of their best side than Freo. The Dockers simply lay down in the last qtr on the weekend, just as they did against Saints the week before.

Well we had to hear about the Eagles injury list in 2010 and correct me if im wrong they fininshed last mmmm yep last that equates to the wooden spoon :wink: :wink:

dungy · June 2011

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I cannot beleive people are jumping on Pav's back because of a few not so great games. The bloke has carried the joint for 10 years!!! Without him they'd have a cabinet full of spoons.

those who knock superstars invariably end up with egg on face.

You may be right buddy but its not about what he has done its about whats doing at present and his side that he captains lack leadership qualities from himself and his fellow leaders on the weekend !!!

Dec · June 2011

So Dungy, you bring up the past (2010...again) and then in your next breath you say about Pav its not about the past, it's about the present? :lol:

I'm not going to get into a Dockers v Eagles argument with you, have another read of what I said, Hawks probably had more out of their best side on Sunday and I'm sick of hearing about injuries as an excuse.

darkshines · June 2011

The missing injured hits hardest if the blokes replacing them aren't up to the job . . .

Just one example - Z Clarke (yes the ruckman) had Barlow's role on Sunday for most of the game . . . . . . . .

Its pretty obvious Hawthorn have greater depth than us. Our list is not deep, which is an acknowledged shortcoming, so clearly injuries are an issue and if you can't see that you've got NFI

dungy · June 2011

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The missing injured hits hardest if the blokes replacing them aren't up to the job . . .

Just one example - Z Clarke (yes the ruckman) had Barlow's role on Sunday for most of the game . . . . . . . .

Its pretty obvious Hawthorn have greater depth than us. Our list is not deep, which is an acknowledged shortcoming, so clearly injuries are an issue and if you can't see that you've got NFI

Good point DS we are playing blokes out of position clearly and that is impacting on our performance

octavius · June 2011

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The missing injured hits hardest if the blokes replacing them aren't up to the job . . .

Just one example - Z Clarke (yes the ruckman) had Barlow's role on Sunday for most of the game . . . . . . . .

Its pretty obvious Hawthorn have greater depth than us. Our list is not deep, which is an acknowledged shortcoming, so clearly injuries are an issue and if you can't see that you've got NFI

Looked like Clarke, a poor mans NicNat was trying to emulate the Eagles strategy, by having a big bodied player at centre clearances.

darkshines · June 2011

Only works if said big body can break tackles and burst from congestion - neither of which Z Clarke can do

Unbelievably, he wasn't actually that bad in the first half

Honestly think he was taking the piss doing it. If Palmer couldn't get a berth in the middle in that instance, he might as well put his house on the market now - he aint gonna be here next year

A free tip - Hawthorn are pretenders, won't be figuring at the pointy end. Cats easily this week (even accounting for Cats propensity to just win)

Dec · June 2011

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The missing injured hits hardest if the blokes replacing them aren't up to the job . . .

Just one example - Z Clarke (yes the ruckman) had Barlow's role on Sunday for most of the game . . . . . . . .

Its pretty obvious Hawthorn have greater depth than us. Our list is not deep, which is an acknowledged shortcoming, so clearly injuries are an issue and if you can't see that you've got NFI

I love it. We wont use injuries as an excuse. We'll use our lack of depth. Zac Clarke isnt up to the job? Well no sh1t. I spose that's someone elses fault too? :lol:

G'day Punter!

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