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i.e. if you ran 1000 mystery bets the favorite would appear more times than other horses
go and put 100 mystery bets in and see what happens
happy to pay for them if Im wrong - which i wont be
It throws out numbers, not to lower priced horses. If that was the case it would pick the fav to place in all of them. I saw one customer got one last week in the exacta order...the winner paid $36 and the first 3 favs in the betting were unplaced.
100/1 shots will appear to win on one in every 100 tickets
2/1 shots will appear to win on 33%
etc etc
Introducing the Mystery bet was the worst thing they ever did.
Of coz there for the lazy punter.
I think you will find that 99% of mystery punters are dole bluggers, pensioners and lazy punters that can't be bothered to do any study.
I sent an email to TAB support asking if the mystery bets are random
they have said they are
however I am asking for further clarification from higher up as I believe they are wrong aswell
will be happy to say Im wrong if they show me the proof
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Dear Mr XXXXXX
MYSTERY BET SELECTIONS
Thank you for your enquiry regarding how the Racing and Wagering WA betting system selects numbers for Mystery bets.
Please find outline below the process that the system follows to determine which numbers are selected for a Mystery Bet. For the purposes of this exercise, the explanation uses a standard Mystery Trifecta as the example.
Step One
Upon receipt of a Mystery Bet request at RWWA?s Head Office, the RWWA betting system runs an algorithm to randomly select a percentage between 0% and 100%. This algorithm runs for each selection required on a Mystery Bet. For the purposes of this example and after the algorithm runs, let?s assume the:
? First selection in the bet string returns 90%, the
? Second selection returns 2% and the
? Third selection returns 33%.
Step Two
To reasonably satisfy customer expectation that their Mystery bets will generate likely winning numbers, (based on favourites) there is a weighting applied in this step. The weighting is based on the investment on each selection in the Win pool at that time and is ordered from largest investment to lowest investment.
So, using the information in the above steps, the following tables explain how the system works:
Investment for each starter in the Win Pool
Starter Number Investment Percentage of
Total Investment
1 1000 9%
2 2000 19%
3 800 8%
4 3000 28%
5 600 6%
6 500 5%
7 1500 14%
8 1200 11%
Total Investment 10,600 100%
For the purposes of this example, the Mystery selection process would ?look? like this:
Investment % 28% 19% 14% 11% 9% 8% 6% 5%
Starter 4 2 7 8 1 3 5 6
Investment 3000 2000 1500 1200 1000 800 600 500
% Spread 0% - 28% 29% - 47% 48% - 61% 62% - 72% 72% - 81% 82% - 89% 90% - 95% 96% - 100%
Based on the above information, the system would have returned a Mystery Trifecta of:
5 to win and 4 and 2 for second and third in any order for a cost of $1.
In your examples where tickets have returned the same/similar Mystery selections, the algorithm will generate different percentages, but depending on how close those percentages are, will depend on what numbers the system will select. For example, the system generates 10% for the First selection on the first ticket and 24% for the First selection on the second ticket. This will result in the same number being generated for First on both tickets. In this case, the number will be 4.
The greater the pool a starter has, the greater the chances that it will be selected through the generation process. (The percentage spread will be larger) Another issue to keep in mind is the earlier the Mystery Bets are placed, the less money is available in the pools, will likely return a greater chance of similar numbers being repeated.
I hope this assists with giving you an understanding on how the process operates when the system selects numbers for Mystery bets.
If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact me on xxxxx.
Yours sincerely
Tony Ellis
Manager Wagering Operations
its another option for people who want to have a bet
rather them playing mystery bets than going to the casino
Enhancements include
? Ability to place Player multi?s
? Ability to place Player Accumulators
? View and link to the Next 5 Sports and Next 5 Fixed Odds Races via Player Mobi
? New sort functionality on TAB Touch. You can now sort fields by dividend as well as starter number
? Upgraded S1 ? S2 functionality on TAB Touch novelties. Selections now update retrospectively. i.e. if you pick S1 whilst making your second selection and then go back to the first selection and add a starter this is automatically updated on your second selection
? Upgrade display for bet preview screen. Now includes runner names in addition to number
? Account withdrawals now available via Mobile
In the next few weeks we will also introduce
? Double Provisional Dividends
? Quaddie Provisional Dividends
? Footy Tipping tote pools
Can we have a multi for place bets. Currently a multi on fixed odds racing is only for the win.
ie win and place and quinellas etc in the one all-up bet - NSW offers it, why can't WA offer it?
I read where most of the large divvies the TAB crow about...ie those +-50k ones are from mysteries.
They ARE random.
Do you guys like that or prefer different horses in each type?
Most people I speak to put $20 on - be good if can do in one bet.
GMP means Guaranteed Minimum Pools (ie the green ticks as previously discussed here).
The open sign means basically that the race has been loaded. Not too much point in physically opening them 48 hours before the race.
The code system of PR, SR, MR etc only allows one day ahead with PS on the ticket
It was basically designed for tickets and not for the net
Anyone want to add more onto this?
Also, if you place a mystery bet with only one selection in each box or leg (for a quaddie) do you then get the four favourites? If not, how does it determine which leg of the quaddie/box of a first 4 gets the favourite or roughie?