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RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
edited January 2013 West Australian Racing
This kid should be sent back to trials and then it should be left up to the senior jocks when to allow her back race riding. She has had enough chances.

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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    Radman said:

    This kid should be sent back to trials and then it should be left up to the senior jocks when to allow her back race riding. She has had enough chances.

    It was Blatant just watched the replay lucky SDM didnt come down its a weekly thing at the moment and it needs to stop
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    just watched...without seeing it front on it looks similar to Faithful's incident.. Looks like she wanted to get out so as her mount was up and going, she just pushed out...once again lucky no-one came down and once again it could have been 2 or 3..

    But i'll hold off with the execution order until i have a look at it front on..regularly tells a clearer picture
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    Don't worry Rio, it was poor front on to. My point with this particular kid is she is a serial offender, obviously doesn't give a toss about her safety or that of her fellow riders and has been urged previously by stewards to temper her style. They need to come down on her hard this time.
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    maybe that is why they adjourned it until Donna is there
  • ZeroZero    4 posts
    Watched replay, pretty bad as she has the worst record I've ever seen worse than faithfull As she was a first time offender
  • PunterKJPunterKJ    26 posts
    She has had a day out at Geraldton today...
  • JustanLJustanL    356 posts
    6 weeks, but we know that will not happen. going by the past results...30 days and naughty girl.
  • RadmanRadman    1,992 posts
    edited January 2013
    We'll know Tuesday, she is lucky no one came down or else they would have been right to throw the book at her then and there.

    Maybe they could ban her from riding within 400kms of the city. Stick to Geraldton, Albany, Esperance, Kalgoorlie and the like. Now, That's not the stupidest idea I've ever heard.....
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    yes it is...less medical services out there
  • plugerpluger    774 posts
    give ellie a bit of a break. im not arguing that it was a near miss on saturday and she should get a few weeks to have a think and learn from it, but on the other hand at least she is out there having a crack.
    so many 1/2 assed rides that we notice, and she goes out and has a fair dinkum go.
    her skills are still growing that is why she is an apprentice.
    if we start banning apprentices from city racing for mistakes, we wont have any riding in the city..
    give her another chance!
  • rot8inrot8in    1,881 posts
    she did well today....once a jockey gets bagged I normal include them ..even their roughies in the multies(omen thingy)..sadly not today...just couldn't see vain diva win...how about some positive stuff about her 3 winners today..welldone to Ellie.

    also smoking Joe Azzopardi...3 winners as well

  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    pluger said:

    give ellie a bit of a break. im not arguing that it was a near miss on saturday and she should get a few weeks to have a think and learn from it, but on the other hand at least she is out there having a crack.
    so many 1/2 assed rides that we notice, and she goes out and has a fair dinkum go.
    her skills are still growing that is why she is an apprentice.
    if we start banning apprentices from city racing for mistakes, we wont have any riding in the city..
    give her another chance!

    No ones is saying Plu that she doesnt have a go were just saying she needs to be a tad more respectful of her fellow riders she did a good job yesterday landed a treble
  • altern8vualtern8vu    245 posts
    hi all , sorry pluger i;ve witnessed ellie's attitude towards seniors & others & mate she just does'nt listen or get it . in albany a couple of meets ago she got stuck into frenchie . he tried to explain where she had made clear mistakes only to cop a mouth full & put the blame on him .she's becoming a loose cannon & needs a good stint on the bench ,i mean this bloke has ridden all around the world & to cop it from a disrespectful kid is not on . cheers
  • ArloArlo    122 posts
    Looks like she chopped off another horse in the straight at Geraldton on her way to winning race 6!
  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    altern8vu said:

    hi all , sorry pluger i;ve witnessed ellie's attitude towards seniors & others & mate she just does'nt listen or get it . in albany a couple of meets ago she got stuck into frenchie . he tried to explain where she had made clear mistakes only to cop a mouth full & put the blame on him .she's becoming a loose cannon & needs a good stint on the bench ,i mean this bloke has ridden all around the world & to cop it from a disrespectful kid is not on . cheers


    I've just about had enough of you bagging jockeys, knock it off before Ellies dad gets on here
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts

    altern8vu said:

    hi all , sorry pluger i;ve witnessed ellie's attitude towards seniors & others & mate she just does'nt listen or get it . in albany a couple of meets ago she got stuck into frenchie . he tried to explain where she had made clear mistakes only to cop a mouth full & put the blame on him .she's becoming a loose cannon & needs a good stint on the bench ,i mean this bloke has ridden all around the world & to cop it from a disrespectful kid is not on . cheers



    I've just about had enough of you bagging jockeys, knock it off before Ellies dad gets on here
    =D>
    Gold PB Gold
  • plugerpluger    774 posts
    altern8vu said:

    hi all , sorry pluger i;ve witnessed ellie's attitude towards seniors & others & mate she just does'nt listen or get it . in albany a couple of meets ago she got stuck into frenchie . he tried to explain where she had made clear mistakes only to cop a mouth full & put the blame on him .she's becoming a loose cannon & needs a good stint on the bench ,i mean this bloke has ridden all around the world & to cop it from a disrespectful kid is not on . cheers

    wasnt there so cant really comment, but is j claite not the one who looks after apprentices??
    if they have a problem with ellie, they should take it up with him..
  • altern8vualtern8vu    245 posts
    PB were'nt bagging her at all was mererly what i observed , first hand she needs to listen to advice from her peers then she may develop in to agood rider.&would love to get to know ellies parents no probs there, mate my sole interest is the WELFARE of ALL our jockeys not just a few cheers.
  • MissHMissH    42 posts
    PB you talk a lot of sense
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    MissH said:

    PB you talk a lot of sense

    when??? What did i miss????
  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    edited January 2013
    Tuesday, 29 January 2013

    MEDIA RELEASE

    Thoroughbred – Resumption of Stewards’ Inquiry – Apprentice E. Cockram – REAL GLOW – Ascot Saturday, 26 January 2013

    Stewards concluded the Inquiry into the reason for DISTINCTIVE DANE (S. Meeres) being tightened and bumped near the 200m in Race 7 the Danmar Homes Handicap (1400m) run at Ascot on Saturday, 26 January 2013.
    Further evidence was taken from Apprentice E. Cockram and her host Trainer Ms D. Riordan.
    Ms Cockram was found guilty to a charge of careless riding under ARR.137(a) for allowing REAL GLOW to shift outwards near the 200m and bump with DISTINCTIVE DANE which was tightened and restrained and bumped with COUNTER OFFER (T. Turner) causing that mare to be tightened and steadied.
    Apprentice E. Cockram subsequently had her permit to ride in races suspended for a period of 21 days to commence from midnight 3 February 2013 and to expire at midnight on 24 February 2013.
    Further, due to her recent poor record in relation to careless riding offences she was advised under the provisions of ARR.92A(2) that she would be referred to the Riding Skills Panel during her period of suspension for mentoring and further training to assist in the development of her riding skills to avoid causing interference in future.
    Media Contact: Brad Lewis – Chief Steward Thoroughbred Ph: 9445 5420 [email protected]
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,486 posts
    by all accounts a lesson in respect and good manners may be appropriate too.
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    great outcome....well done, congrats to the people we throw bricks at normally :-bd
  • rickrick    487 posts

    by all accounts a lesson in respect and good manners may be appropriate too.

    Now that lesson is started at home at a young age by the parents , well it did in my family
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,486 posts
    it did with me too, rick...
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    behind the lunch shed by the big kids for me....followed by a lecture, and the strap from Mum for fighting!!!! Didn't take long to learn
  • rickrick    487 posts
    It all started going pearshaped when they took the cane away from schools , the younger generations dont hav any respect for adults or authority any more !!!

  • rickrick    487 posts
    i probably shouldnt say this , but if she keeps riding with no regard for others safety and wont listen when people try to help her maybe she should get sat on her ass in a race and she may , i said may wake up.
  • thefalconthefalcon    20,486 posts
    and they too will one day breed......
  • rickrick    487 posts

    and they too will one day breed......

    god help us all
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