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Brunswick_cow · June 2013

Anyone know why Paul Harvey has been replaced on both his rides????

Little Willie having another day murdering horses that would win without him on board. Knows how to kill a good thing like no other!! #-o

3:-O <):)

rick · June 2013

Brunswick_cow said:
Anyone know why Paul Harvey has been replaced on both his rides????

Little Willie having another day murdering horses that would win without him on board. Knows how to kill a good thing like no other!! #-o

mate unless your in the mounting yard listening to what the trainer is telling how he wants is horse ridden then its a big call to make , yes I agree he's certainly looked like he butchered some rides of late but have you ever thought he's riding to trainers instructions

RIO · June 2013

gee rick, if some of his rides are riding to instruction i'd really like to know about it, so i can avoid those trainers..Ride him back, put him in a pocket, hold him there until it is too late, and then come out and jump around like a spastic on him and make it look like you really put in...

Not in form at the moment, but hope he gets it happening really soon.

Semipropunter · June 2013

Chris Parnham is a good jockey but ffs those two rides on Elite Belle and the heavily backed The Rising were disgraceful ~X(

rick · June 2013

RIO said:
gee rick, if some of his rides are riding to instruction i'd really like to know about it, so i can avoid those trainers..Ride him back, put him in a pocket, hold him there until it is too late, and then come out and jump around like a spastic on him and make it look like you really put in...

Not in form at the moment, but hope he gets it happening really soon.

mate i do get what your saying , but riding them back well not all horses race on the speed, as for getting pocketed they may say to him to get some cover midfield and then gets no luck in getting out , Rio mate im not saying hes riding good at the moment but just saying he could be being told where to possie up in running not all trainers leave it up to the jock on how to ride there horse, i know some trainers who have a race jock work there horse will leave the tactics up to them but hey not all do .

Raff_2000 · June 2013

I didn't have a bad day in the P.T.T competition but it could have been better. I jumped off Operational, High Alert and Dream lifter to be on other horses but these are the risks you have to take sometimes. Next time I'll probably stick with my original selections. But then again it's hard not to change your mind sometimes :-S

TheDiva · June 2013

Gee that's a hard call, has been riding fantastically well for a 3kg claimer. Surely they're entitled a few mistakes at this stage of their careers?

TheFunkster · June 2013

The Diva said:
Gee that's a hard call, has been riding fantastically well for a 3kg claimer. Surely they're entitled a few mistakes at this stage of their careers?

Yes, but can he please not make it on my horse again! #-o

And as for Pikey, well he better lift his game come Weds! ;)

But I do think young Chris sits on em pretty well and they seem to run for him, which is more than can be said for a lot of far more experienced riders....From the draw it was always going to be a task to find a spot on The Rising. In 12 months time he'll probably be one of the top few riders here

Raff_2000 · June 2013

Precisely Diva. Chris is showing very good potential for a beginner. Whether they are an apprentice or a professional all Jockeys are going to have good and not so good performances after all they are only human. And there is nothing wrong in showing a bit of pride when you are first past the post either. Plus comparing Chris to his older (that's right older) brothers is just plain stupid. I'm sure they weren't as good as they are now when they were 16 either. And =D> for the way you handled that unruly horse in race 4 today too Chris. Those who saw what happened will know what I mean ;)

dungy · June 2013

Brunswick_cow said:
Anyone know why Paul Harvey has been replaced on both his rides????

Little Willie having another day murdering horses that would win without him on board. Knows how to kill a good thing like no other!! #-o

3:-O <):)

We have not herd a peap from you of late Cowman bit like your mate King Paddy :)

remember an out of form Pike is still a mile better than an inform Paddy thats simple even you could work that out

dungy · June 2013

Raff_2000 said:
Precisely Diva. Chris is showing very good potential for a beginner. Whether they are an apprentice or a professional all Jockeys are going to have good and not so good performances after all they are only human. And there is nothing wrong in showing a bit of pride when you are first past the post either. Plus comparing Chris to his older (that's right older) brothers is just plain stupid. I'm sure they weren't as good as they are now when they were 16 either. And =D> for the way you handled that unruly horse in race 4 today too Chris. Those who saw what happened will know what I mean ;)

I wouldnt say comparing the young bloke to his siblings is correct as i reckon he has both them covered already at his tender age but they are not the yardstick over here not by a long shot

dungy · June 2013

Brunswick_cow said:
Anyone know why Paul Harvey has been replaced on both his rides????

Little Willie having another day murdering horses that would win without him on board. Knows how to kill a good thing like no other!! #-o

3:-O <):)

Read the stipes report to fat couldnt make the weight

Amission · June 2013

Little C.P. cost me today.

Amission · June 2013

Semipro punter said:
Chris Parnham is a good jockey but ffs those two rides on Elite Belle and the heavily backed The Rising were disgraceful ~X(

was there a good ride?

Brunswick_cow · June 2013

dungy said:

Brunswick_cow said:

We have not herd a peap from you of late Cowman

Dungy have been a busy little bull but nice to know you have missed me :-*

First of the day was a shocker tho!!

3:-O

Semipropunter · June 2013

I just don't see the point in booking a 3kg apprentice if the aim is to sit back last. Weight will eventually stop all horses but sprinters tend to cop it better than most and that is essentially what Elite Belle was asked to do yesterday-drop back to last and make one, sustained run. When We Were Kings sat at the rear of the field and ran a marginally better final 600m, but with 3.5kg more weight.

Raff_2000 · June 2013

Kalgoorlie racing is not the same as Perth City racing I know but it still takes a good jockey to boot home a treble especially if they are still an apprentice.

Way to go Chris Parnham :-bd

Piston_Broke · June 2013

Semipro punter said:
Chris Parnham is a good jockey but ffs those two rides on Elite Belle and the heavily backed The Rising were disgraceful ~X(

The Rising? just what should he have done?. Once your out 3 and 4 deep your stuck out there, Absolutely nothing he could have done about that, the other Elite Belle, when your told to go back that is what you do

carey · June 2013

elite belle was always going to be back there.
why pike decided to go back when his horse is usually much closer, and was over more ground is another matter.
as they get over more ground they tend to race closer, so it makes no sense.
but he is riding like a cowboy lately, maybe he needs replacing with ky!

Raff_2000 · June 2013

Piston_Broke said:

Semipro punter said:
Chris Parnham is a good jockey but ffs those two rides on Elite Belle and the heavily backed The Rising were disgraceful ~X(
The Rising? just what should he have done?. Once your out 3 and 4 deep your stuck out there, Absolutely nothing he could have done about that, the other Elite Belle, when your told to go back that is what you do

I agree P.B.

You need a lot of luck winning over 1200m jumping from barrier 16 with an on speed runner. Once you get posted in the cheap seats its almost impossible to up grade to gold class without causing interference and ending up on Holidays. The instructions would have been to ride for luck I imagine and he didn't get any on this occasion.

Semipropunter · June 2013

Piston_Broke said:

Semipro punter said:

Chris Parnham is a good jockey but ffs those two rides on Elite Belle and the heavily backed The Rising were disgraceful ~X(
The Rising? just what should he have done?. Once your out 3 and 4 deep your stuck out there, Absolutely nothing he could have done about that, the other Elite Belle, when your told to go back that is what you do

The Rising looks best at 1000m so i'd say you don't ride it like it's a1400m race for a start. If he can't lead he needs to ride it cold. Booking a 3kg claimer for Elite Belle sends the message that you are there to win, but riding to her perceived pattern suggests anything but. Again I ask: If those were the pre-race plans why book a claiming apprentice?

lame · June 2013

Race 8 dominating was always going to win with it's times and drop in weight , sure i even had the rising for the exacta but he is quiet a weak horse imo doesn't carry weight well

dungy · June 2013

Brunswick_cow said:

dungy said:

Brunswick_cow said:

We have not herd a peap from you of late Cowman
Dungy have been a busy little bull but nice to know you have missed me :-*

First of the day was a shocker tho!!

3:-O

Couldnt agree with you more mate it was a 1/10 maybe thats being kind :))

dungy · June 2013

carey said:
elite belle was always going to be back there.
why pike decided to go back when his horse is usually much closer, and was over more ground is another matter.
as they get over more ground they tend to race closer, so it makes no sense.
but he is riding like a cowboy lately, maybe he needs replacing with ky!

Carey more chance of me and youmate getting a ride for Peters than your girl Kyra those days are well and truly over riding for that team

Raff_2000 · June 2013

lame said:
Race 8 dominating was always going to win with it's times and drop in weight , sure i even had the rising for the exacta but he is quiet a weak horse imo doesn't carry weight well

The Rising actually won with Paul Harvey on board carrying 59 kilos in his first prep Lame. If that isn't enough to convince anyone that he doesn't carry weight well then I'm not sure what is? However he was racing against his own age group back then so he is yet to prove he can carry weight against older horses
;)

lame · June 2013

thanks raff was a fan but starting to think he hasn't got the class now he's up in the classes or hasn't come back as good as he was

Raff_2000 · June 2013

lame said:
thanks raff was a fan but starting to think he hasn't got the class now he's up in the classes or hasn't come back as good as he was

No worries Lame. I wasn't trying to prove you wrong or anything like that. Just pointing out a fact that's all ;) I'd love to see him progress through into the top class category and he still has time on his side which is a positive.

carey · June 2013

dungy said:

carey said:
elite belle was always going to be back there.
why pike decided to go back when his horse is usually much closer, and was over more ground is another matter.
as they get over more ground they tend to race closer, so it makes no sense.
but he is riding like a cowboy lately, maybe he needs replacing with ky!
Carey more chance of me and youmate getting a ride for Peters than your girl Kyra those days are well and truly over riding for that team

of course, but i don't know why people think i have a thing for her.
i just know she is better than average(or was last time i looked).
as far as pike goes lately, i wonder what is going on.
maybe the view is better back there.

dungy · June 2013

carey said:

dungy said:

carey said:
elite belle was always going to be back there.
why pike decided to go back when his horse is usually much closer, and was over more ground is another matter.
as they get over more ground they tend to race closer, so it makes no sense.
but he is riding like a cowboy lately, maybe he needs replacing with ky!
Carey more chance of me and youmate getting a ride for Peters than your girl Kyra those days are well and truly over riding for that team
of course, but i don't know why people think i have a thing for her.
i just know she is better than average(or was last time i looked).
as far as pike goes lately, i wonder what is going on.
maybe the view is better back there.

Carey you once stated mate that she was a good rider because of her strike rate ,,,her strike rate over the last 2 years is terrible as for William he had a double on good priced horses Thursday the old saying Carey which you would no mate form is temporary class is permanant

carey · June 2013

if you can find that exact post dungy, i will keep you supplied with piss for the rest of your(or mine) life! =))

i have never said her strike rate was anything fancy, all i have said is that she is better than more riders that are better than her.

there is a clear distinction there.

anyway, pike has more expectation to perform than she does, and at the moment he is not doing that.

before yesterday, during the current belmont season, the wonder boy has had 27 rides for 2 wins, one at 2.2 and the other at 1.7, both at the midweeks.
and the cupboard was bare again yesterday.
as i said, he is going crapola

G'day Punter!

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